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#1 User is offline   Joe.

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:09 AM

Interesting blog from Andy Kato, one half of Groove Armada, after V festival.

Over in the artist area there was already a queue for the washrooms. Having no shower gel with me, I made the most of the waiting time by decanting some of the toilet hand soap into an empty water bottle. But the waiting went on for a long while due to a faulty water supply. Every few minutes there were the cries of people stuck with shampoo in their eyes while the plumber pulled and pushed pipes round the back

Then I noticed the empty shower block just the other side of some temporary fencing

A couple of us found a gap in the barrier. Out of nowhere came a very large man. "Reserved for the Kings of Leon" he said, "and so is this half of the artist toilets". It's hard to believe that someone actually phoned their agent and said "listen I know that Paul Weller, Kasabian, Florence, Stereophonics, Groove Armada + co are all sharing the artist village and facilities, but we require that you put a fence down the middle of the toilets and showers and put a large man there to keep them just for us." But somebody did.

Eventually I got scolded all over for a couple of minutes, though I was pleased with the success of the decanted hand soap.

Backstage again, we were outside the catering tent, about to cross the path back to the dressing rooms when loads of massive blokes in suits and shades came out of nowhere shouting "don't move, don't move, DO NOT move" whilst pushing people back to the sides of the track. Was it Obama?

Tom explained that he was just crossing over to the dressing room to start getting ready.

"No you're not" said a big man.

"Yes I am" said tom.

Out came the enormous hand.

The conversation between tom and the big man got more heated. Then 4 blacked out range rovers came round the corner. One for each King of Leon. As it became clear what all this presidential fuss was about, tom gave the worldwide one fingered sign of dislike as the cars went past. The last one stopped. The drummer got out making "come on then" type gestures. "Come on then" tom gestured back. Instead, the drummer went back behind his bodyguards, and, pointing towards Tom, Paul Weller, and the various other musicians who were pinned by the side of the road, said "I want them removed."

"You will be removed" said the big man.

"No we won't"

The promoter came over, smoothed it over and apologised. Bearing in mind this was all happening backstage in the area shared by all the bands, it's hard to see what the Kings thought they were protecting themselves from. Was Paul Weller going to hound them for autographs? Was Florence going to wrestle them to the ground? Or maybe Stereophonics were going to ask them to write "your sex is on fire" on an album sleeve?

Nevertheless, the Kings had 4 minutes before going onstage to enjoy all those showers and toilets they'd kept to themselves.

We had a great crowd for our gig. Hat off to Staffordshire. It was the gig of the weekend.

We came off stage into the van that would take us back round to the dressing room. As we weaved through thick woodland, a message came over the radio to the driver to pull off the road, repeat, "Pull Off The Road." Guess who.

The Kings were on their way out.

So we waited, reluctantly, whilst getting pretty annoyed with our driver for stopping. A few of us got out, to give the Kings a fond farewell. We made plans. MAD suggested the next day's headline.

"Crap Band Killed in Wood".

Eventually, a couple of buses for crew and entourage came round the corner, followed by the 4 individual range rovers. What a lonely existence.
Back in the artist area, there was a good vibe around the bar. 3 cases of champagne were sent over to GA HQ as a thanks for telling it straight to the Kings.

What a complete bunch of bellends they've become.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 10:16 AM

Interesting blog from Andy Kato, one half of Groove Armada, after V festival.

Over in the artist area there was already a queue for the washrooms. Having no shower gel with me, I made the most of the waiting time by decanting some of the toilet hand soap into an empty water bottle. But the waiting went on for a long while due to a faulty water supply. Every few minutes there were the cries of people stuck with shampoo in their eyes while the plumber pulled and pushed pipes round the back

Then I noticed the empty shower block just the other side of some temporary fencing

A couple of us found a gap in the barrier. Out of nowhere came a very large man. "Reserved for the Kings of Leon" he said, "and so is this half of the artist toilets". It's hard to believe that someone actually phoned their agent and said "listen I know that Paul Weller, Kasabian, Florence, Stereophonics, Groove Armada + co are all sharing the artist village and facilities, but we require that you put a fence down the middle of the toilets and showers and put a large man there to keep them just for us." But somebody did.

Eventually I got scolded all over for a couple of minutes, though I was pleased with the success of the decanted hand soap.

Backstage again, we were outside the catering tent, about to cross the path back to the dressing rooms when loads of massive blokes in suits and shades came out of nowhere shouting "don't move, don't move, DO NOT move" whilst pushing people back to the sides of the track. Was it Obama?

Tom explained that he was just crossing over to the dressing room to start getting ready.

"No you're not" said a big man.

"Yes I am" said tom.

Out came the enormous hand.

The conversation between tom and the big man got more heated. Then 4 blacked out range rovers came round the corner. One for each King of Leon. As it became clear what all this presidential fuss was about, tom gave the worldwide one fingered sign of dislike as the cars went past. The last one stopped. The drummer got out making "come on then" type gestures. "Come on then" tom gestured back. Instead, the drummer went back behind his bodyguards, and, pointing towards Tom, Paul Weller, and the various other musicians who were pinned by the side of the road, said "I want them removed."

"You will be removed" said the big man.

"No we won't"

The promoter came over, smoothed it over and apologised. Bearing in mind this was all happening backstage in the area shared by all the bands, it's hard to see what the Kings thought they were protecting themselves from. Was Paul Weller going to hound them for autographs? Was Florence going to wrestle them to the ground? Or maybe Stereophonics were going to ask them to write "your sex is on fire" on an album sleeve?

Nevertheless, the Kings had 4 minutes before going onstage to enjoy all those showers and toilets they'd kept to themselves.

We had a great crowd for our gig. Hat off to Staffordshire. It was the gig of the weekend.

We came off stage into the van that would take us back round to the dressing room. As we weaved through thick woodland, a message came over the radio to the driver to pull off the road, repeat, "Pull Off The Road." Guess who.

The Kings were on their way out.

So we waited, reluctantly, whilst getting pretty annoyed with our driver for stopping. A few of us got out, to give the Kings a fond farewell. We made plans. MAD suggested the next day's headline.

"Crap Band Killed in Wood".

Eventually, a couple of buses for crew and entourage came round the corner, followed by the 4 individual range rovers. What a lonely existence.
Back in the artist area, there was a good vibe around the bar. 3 cases of champagne were sent over to GA HQ as a thanks for telling it straight to the Kings.

What a complete bunch of bellends they've become.


Facking hell. Guess who's playing on the radio right now? Yup Kings of Leon.

Surely half of the buzz for things like that is interacting with the fans and other bands?? Unless of course you're a group of self-obsessed morons I guess.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 10:42 AM

I bought the first album and thought that was alright, but since then they've done nothing but bore me senseless.

I can see why you'd want Paul Weller to be kept away but that seems a bit over the top to say the least
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:30 PM

KOL cancel show due to bird pooping on bassist
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:55 PM

I thought that was supposed to be lucky? Miserable bastards
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 12:04 PM

I'm almost willing to forgive them THAT for THIS though:

KOL Upset Heaton


Heaton slams Kings of Leon over V Festival behaviour

Singer Paul Heaton has publicly slammed the Kings Of Leon for their unfriendly behaviour, insisting they were the only band to not be "nice" to him at this weekend's V Festival.
The former The Beautiful South frontman performed sets before the US rockers at both Saturday's Staffordshire V and Sunday's Essex V - and used his performance on the second day to hammer the Use Somebody hitmakers for their bad attitude from the day before.

Heaton took aim at Caleb and Nathan Followill and their bandmates for having their own compound and for failing to mingle with the other acts.

He told his fans, "I don't like Kings Of Leon; they've got their own compound. We couldn't get in because we didn't have beards... Everyone has been really nice except the Kings."
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 12:51 PM

Unreal. lol
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 02:20 PM

I'm almost willing to forgive them THAT for THIS though:

KOL Upset Heaton


Heaton slams Kings of Leon over V Festival behaviour

Singer Paul Heaton has publicly slammed the Kings Of Leon for their unfriendly behaviour, insisting they were the only band to not be "nice" to him at this weekend's V Festival.
The former The Beautiful South frontman performed sets before the US rockers at both Saturday's Staffordshire V and Sunday's Essex V - and used his performance on the second day to hammer the Use Somebody hitmakers for their bad attitude from the day before.

Heaton took aim at Caleb and Nathan Followill and their bandmates for having their own compound and for failing to mingle with the other acts.

He told his fans, "I don't like Kings Of Leon; they've got their own compound. We couldn't get in because we didn't have beards... Everyone has been really nice except the Kings."


KOL probably liked The Housemartins and felt let down by The Beautiful South as well
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 02:30 PM

arrogant arseholes.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 07:38 PM

i'm sorry, but the groove armada guy comes across as almost as big a cock -

namedropping himself in a list of artists who are way more successful and moaning about the shower plumbing, yawn - you're supposed to be a rock star at a festival, not a 12 year old girl on a school trip.

fair play to KOL if they are big enough to get that kind of treatment, then good luck to 'em, sounds like sour grapes to me.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 09:19 PM

fair play to KOL if they are big enough to get that kind of treatment, then good luck to 'em, sounds like sour grapes to me.


You are joking, right?



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Posted 15 September 2010 - 09:59 PM

KOL probably liked The Housemartins and felt let down by The Beautiful South as well


Just what exactly are you implying about The Housemartins!
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 10:00 PM

We're always a decent, not remarkable band, then they released Only By The Night which had one or two tracks with massive mainstream appeal and now they're brilliant.

Sound like right scrotes.
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 12:47 AM

You are joking, right?


no, not in the least - i'm sure compared to some artists they have fairly pedestrian ego's

the whole business is littered with people whoring for status, awful ego trips like MTV cribs, always has been, always will be.

having the celebrity muscle over some bands that aren't exactly world greats, to the extent that they can have showers reserved for them hardly makes them arses or bellends.

i'm sure if this armada guy had been offered his own private shower, he'd have jumped for joy and would probably be boasting in his blog about it.

i don't care for KOL at all, but it sounds like a lot of fuss over nothing, and if this bloke has nothing better to blog about after a festival, then he's obviously not very rock n roll

edit: furthermore, who says that it was the band that arranged this, it could have been the label or the promoters, by the sounds of it they didn't even use them.

no, sorry, whinging name dropping jealousy from a band that had one decent song (thanks to a sample) and who's last singles romped to 196 & 167 in the charts. they should count themselves lucky they were even playing there

Edited by Vålerenga, 16 September 2010 - 12:52 AM.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 12:54 AM

no, not in the least - i'm sure compared to some artists they have fairly pedestrian ego's

the whole business is littered with people whoring for status, awful ego trips like MTV cribs, always has been, always will be.

having the celebrity muscle over some bands that aren't exactly world greats, to the extent that they can have showers reserved for them hardly makes them arses or bellends.

i'm sure if this armada guy had been offered his own private shower, he'd have jumped for joy and would probably be boasting in his blog about it.

i don't care for KOL at all, but it sounds like a lot of fuss over nothing, and if this bloke has nothing better to blog about after a festival, then he's obviously not very rock n roll

But cancelling a show because the bassist gets shat on by a bird? I'd be pissed off big time if I paid to see that show. How many rock artists haven't done an Ozzy and bitten heads off during their shows?
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 05:30 AM

no, sorry, whinging name dropping jealousy from a band that had one decent song (thanks to a sample) and who's last singles romped to 196 & 167 in the charts. they should count themselves lucky they were even playing there

Hmm seems a bit naive to think Groove Armada were jealous. Personally I'm not a big fan of them but they are still very prominent on the festivals and clubbing circuit (DJ sets primarily as opposed to live sets) and I would imagine they make a very nice amount of money from both.

Kings of Leon sound like dicks. It's not so much what they do with their money (fuck it they can do what they want), it's how they appear to conduct themselves. I'm surprised to see you defending them.
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 11:48 AM

no, not in the least - i'm sure compared to some artists they have fairly pedestrian ego's

the whole business is littered with people whoring for status, awful ego trips like MTV cribs, always has been, always will be.

having the celebrity muscle over some bands that aren't exactly world greats, to the extent that they can have showers reserved for them hardly makes them arses or bellends.



But it's not reserved for them, they demand it. I've read about it other places too. And furthermore they completely ignore other artists at their festivals, even attempt to have them ejected for nothing and generally alienate themselves from everybody else around them. Including the fans, who are now wrapped round their fingers like pathetic performing seals.

I know they don't have much of a hand in this but they're charging £55 for their next tour. That's just obscene. And the sad thing is that they will undoubtedly sell out.

Their first three albums were superb, the fourth too was good, but since this mainstream success they've simply become total wankers.


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Posted 16 September 2010 - 01:04 PM

I bought the first album and thought that was alright, but since then they've done nothing but bore me senseless.

I can see why you'd want Paul Weller to be kept away but that seems a bit over the top to say the least


Agreed the first album was good but after that MOR.

And I don't agree about mr weller, one of only a few artists who are still writing great records in their 50's, a rare breed.
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 02:51 PM

KOL probably liked The Housemartins and felt let down by The Beautiful South as well


Housemartins = likeable pop band with interesting tunes

Beautiful South = Oh listen to our oh so clever lyrics, aren't we rude (snigger), pop-by-numbers blandmeisters.
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 03:14 PM

Agreed the first album was good but after that MOR.

And I don't agree about mr weller, one of only a few artists who are still writing great records in their 50's, a rare breed.


I appreciate Mr Weller has a loyal following that still value him years after others have fallen by the wayside, but I'm just not a fan and never have been. I can even remember not liking 'Going Underground' was number 1, so I've got about 30 years of Weller un-appreciation under me belt
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 03:17 PM

no, sorry, whinging name dropping jealousy from a band that had one decent song (thanks to a sample) and who's last singles romped to 196 & 167 in the charts. they should count themselves lucky they were even playing there


This is the band that headlined Glastonbury this year. This is the band that run their own annual festival 'Love Box'. One decent song? What about the number one albums and sell out tours? When did single sales mean anything? Your talking out your arse. KOL are bigger, yes but Groove Armada are no small fry, has beens. Should Weller be thrown on the Valerenga 'ego bigger than success' pile too?
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 06:57 PM

But it's not reserved for them, they demand it. I've read about it other places too. And furthermore they completely ignore other artists at their festivals, even attempt to have them ejected for nothing and generally alienate themselves from everybody else around them. Including the fans, who are now wrapped round their fingers like pathetic performing seals.

I know they don't have much of a hand in this but they're charging £55 for their next tour. That's just obscene. And the sad thing is that they will undoubtedly sell out.

Their first three albums were superb, the fourth too was good, but since this mainstream success they've simply become total wankers.



so why is this thread about them becoming complete arses, sounds like they've always been like this, that's just the way they are - :dunno:
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:08 PM

This is the band that headlined Glastonbury this year. This is the band that run their own annual festival 'Love Box'. One decent song? What about the number one albums and sell out tours? When did single sales mean anything? Your talking out your arse. KOL are bigger, yes but Groove Armada are no small fry, has beens. Should Weller be thrown on the Valerenga 'ego bigger than success' pile too?


they headlined the john peel stage, 'goodbye country' was their most succesful album which got to 5 - sounds like i'm not the only one talking out my arse.

i don't care for either band, so this isn't about my tastes and i'm not knocking whatever it is GA may have achieved, but i read that blog with an open mind, and it wasn't until about half way through that i realised the poster wasn't refering to the blog's author.

moaning about shower gel and bands who receive special treatment is about as un rock n roll as i can imagine.

oh, and i don't understand your reference to weller and ego piles at all...
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:12 PM

Hmm seems a bit naive to think Groove Armada were jealous. Personally I'm not a big fan of them but they are still very prominent on the festivals and clubbing circuit (DJ sets primarily as opposed to live sets) and I would imagine they make a very nice amount of money from both.

Kings of Leon sound like dicks. It's not so much what they do with their money (fuck it they can do what they want), it's how they appear to conduct themselves. I'm surprised to see you defending them.



i wasn't exactly defending them per se i just thought that for this guy to whine about it in his blog was arsey to the other extreme. i mean it's one thing to be in his situation, get pissed off and think 'what a bunch of wankers', but it's another thing entirely to go home and blog about it.

i don't know why KOL behave like that, but obviously they are a very big band (somehow) and probably appreciate getting this sort of treatment, it's probably a real drag after a while.
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 10:31 AM

i wasn't exactly defending them per se i just thought that for this guy to whine about it in his blog was arsey to the other extreme. i mean it's one thing to be in his situation, get pissed off and think 'what a bunch of wankers', but it's another thing entirely to go home and blog about it.

i don't know why KOL behave like that, but obviously they are a very big band (somehow) and probably appreciate getting this sort of treatment, it's probably a real drag after a while.


If you read the blog entry itself, the parts Joe has posted are just snippets. It's actually more about their time at the festival, and as a result Kings of Leon's behaviour cropped up
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 11:28 AM

They sound like a right bunch of arseholes
good job i didnt pay for their last album

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 06:29 PM

If you read the blog entry itself, the parts Joe has posted are just snippets. It's actually more about their time at the festival, and as a result Kings of Leon's behaviour cropped up


fair enough, to be honest, i din't think everyone would get so wound up, i just thought it was a bit whiney alround.
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 08:11 PM

i quite like their new song
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:13 PM

Not enjoying the dissing of Beautiful South. As for KOL, i thought everyone had gathered over the last year that they're a bunch of knob heads.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:41 PM

I thought I'd add to this discussion of when KOL became complete arses. Rewind to February 2009 in Barcelona, where they cancelled a show at the Razzmatazz 15 MINUTES before the gig. Barcelona in February is not exactly a sunny and warm paradise as is depicted on their new album cover. It was freezing cold and people were queuing for HOURS to get in. It was a slap in the face to be told that the gig was cancelled without any warning 15 minutes before we were due to head in. There was no explanation at the time and they did not bother rescheduling the gig. Most people at the gig travelled from far away to come see their gig in Barcelona (including myself) that night. In fact, I tailored my whole holiday around that gig including choosing a not-so-cheap hotel that was near the venue. The tickets were refunded in the end, but minus the service charges. If you are gravely ill would you not know a lot earlier than 15 minutes before!?!? Why would you knowingly make people wait for hours outside in the cold only to turn them away!?

Angry fans: http://www.last.fm/e...4 February 2009
Press release filled with lies: http://www.kingsofle...celled-a584a370

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:26 PM

They're a shit band and by the sound of it top class ****s. I wish someone had proper kicked off backstage
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