inckley fox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Why do you think you are owed an explaination? As quite rightly pointed out, it is a private matter and there will probably be some legal element to it. When I sack someone do you want me to give you a shout? Let you know all about it? No, but if you want me to agree with the decision then I'm afraid you'll have to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Just a load of soundbites really, nothing worthy of note, roll on August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 I literally think you are wanting too much here Mark. And I'm not surprised. You're probably smarting at Pearson's departure and looking for stuff to worry about. Again, the club have been professional throughout. Whelan has said Claudio was the first choice and he has come across well today. If this wasn't after Nige's departure, I doubt you'd be concerned. If people want to happy clap & blindly 'trust' them, then that's up to them For me, trust needs to be earned and the fact she's flat out lying about Ranieri being first choice when they've obviously courted Hiddink & then MoN & been turned down by both... it doesn't say much about trust Anyway, they've either made a good decision or an error of gargantuan proportions, and only time will tell as to whether I can trust them, but I won't do it blindly, when they won't even qualify their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 I'll get behind him when we start improving thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFilter Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Oh no, what will i do??? Sounds like you should probably support Chelsea, if you'll only get behind a club when they're improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboFox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 I'll sum up my feelings on the press conference with the following analogy: Imagine my sister has this fella, and I really get on with him... He's a bit of a twat sometimes but essentially he's a really good mate who I've known for ages. Then one day I find out he's been dumped, and the next time I see her she turns up with another bloke and he's nice, he's suave, he says all the right things and I'm sure I'll get to know him better... Then she's all like "I'm SO into him, he's the one" and I know she's my sister and I'll support her decision no matter what. ...But I still can't help but think she's been a bit of a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 To expand as a yawn clearly isn't acceptable, this tells us absolutely nothing. Nothing substantial about why Nigel left, nothing substantial about the recruitment processes and nothing to give any genuine reassurance that Ranieri is more capable of pursuing 'the long-term objectives and vision the owners have for this club'. Pretty uninspiring all in all.Even as a Nige supporter, nothing about the sacking is going to leak in the very near future and that's the way it should be. The quote is the same non specific waffle which could be applied at every professional club in the country.That's not to say I agree with it or trust them. I'm still gutted he's gone but the club have to protect confidentiality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Sounds like you should probably support Chelsea, if you'll only get behind a club when they're improving. Don't be ridiculous, even Chelsea peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Leicester City's Susan Whelan calls on fans to trust club's decision to replace Pearson with Ranieri By Mercury_Sport | Posted: July 20, 2015 By Rob Tanner Susan Whelan with Claudio Ranieri and director of football Jon Rudkin at the King Power Stadium today Comments (0)Leicester City chief executive Susan Whelan has urged supporters to trust the club's board of directors over the sacking of Nigel Pearson and the appointment of Claudio Ranieri. Ranieri was officially unveiled to the media as Pearson's successor today and Whelan was asked why Pearson, who had led City to the Premier League and masterminded the great escape last season, was sacked. Whelan said legal issues meant she could not disclose any details but she called for the supporters to have faith in the club's decision, which she said was taken with the club's best interest at heart. "We acknowledge and appreciate Nigel's contribution and success he brought to the club," she said. "At the time of his departure we made a statement and it was quite clear that the board felt its relationship with Nigel was just no longer viable and we had to make a change. "I am sure people would like to go into the detail but there are confidential issues on both sides. This is normal in a departure situation. "I am not at liberty or wish to go into the detail of what happened. I think Nigel has a great legacy at this club but it is time to move on for everyone." Whelan said she was well aware that the appointment of Ranieri had been met with a mixed reception from supporters, but said the 63-year-old was the right choice to take the club forward. "I read the papers so I know there was criticism from some areas, but I think the majority of the supporters still understand because we have demonstrated it consistently over the last five years," she said. "We genuinely always try to do our best for Leicester City and to keep the club as the primary driver in any decision that is taken. "I understand there was probably some frustration in terms of the fact it was quiet during the interim, but I think the supporters know that is our way. "If something is private and confidential we prefer to talk about those things behind closed doors. "We don't talk about our business in the public domain every day. I am confident and sure the majority of the fans will have trusted in the judgement of the board. "Claudio is a man of vast experience and knowledge. We are very pleased to have him here at the club and he is going to lead us into the next chapter of the club's history. "We are very proud to have him. He succeeds Nigel Pearson as manager. "Everyone at the club appreciates the success that Nigel achieved when he was here. "The club is in a better place with the contribution Nigel has made to the club in the past. "However, in the pursuit of the long-term objectives and vision the owners have for this club, a change was necessary. "I am very confident that in Claudio we have recruited a manager who has the knowledge, the passion and the determination to ensure the continued growth, development and success for this club, and to fulfil the vision of the owners, and everything that is in the hearts and dreams of the fans." Whelan insisted that Ranieri, who has managed some of the biggest clubs in Europe, was City's first choice for the job, although she admitted there had been a thorough search for Pearson's successor. In an interview with the Irish Times, former City boss Martin O'Neill has admitted he was sounded out by the club but told them he did not want to leave his post with the Republic of Ireland, while Guus Hiddink was also on Leicester's short list. "He was, absolutely," said Whelan when asked if he Ranieri was their first choice. "We went through a very extensive recruitment process in terms of looking at the managers who were available. "That is our job and responsibility as a board to ensure the decision we were making was a very good long-term choice. "It became very clear almost immediately that Claudio was our number one target." Ranieri was relaxed and cheerful as he answered questions from journalists and outlined his vision for the club. "I am very excited to start the new season," said Ranieri. "Leicester is an old, good club in England and I am very proud to be here, and I am very happy to start the new season. "The first part of last season was not good and I don't understand why. Something changed after the 5-3 win over Manchester United. "But at the end the character of the manager, the players and the club, and fans, gave a miracle. The last part of the season was amazing. "I want to know what is the true Leicester, the first part or the second. I am sure it was the second. "My goal is to make one point more next season. The goal is to improve season after season." Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/City-Whelan/story-27449229-detail/story.html#ixzz3gRe0ZRLd Follow us: @Leicester_Merc on Twitter | leicestermercury on Facebook Alot of words to say nothing. Still would though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Not sure why anyone expected the club to elaborate on Pearson's departure. No club ever does unless it's a football reason. Fans should have some rights but the club aren't obliged to discuss private in-house matters. What they've said should be explanation enough anyway. They had a fall out, either over one incident or a period of time, and they decided they didn't want to work with him anymore. Most of us have already decided what we think of that - I think the owners should put personal issues aside, but they run the football club and their decision is final. As for trust, inckley and CC_Star are spot on. Trust has to be earned and there's no good reason to trust the people running the club. We don't know them personally, the club is generally run with no respect for the fans (as are most clubs) and their managerial appointments so far have been hit and miss (well, one was poor the other good). They've sacked a decent manager at a bad time and they have to hope that Claudio does the business, because that's all that matters. None of them have done enough to make me have faith in them, some things they do are good and some things they do are shit. Only results will matter. And Nigel is gone, the club are right to try and focus towards moving forward now they have made their decision. It's all down to Claudio now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 One simple question, Susan, you didn't answer that the fans WANTED. Why, specifically, was Pearson sacked? - I don't agree with Pearson not meeting the club's long-term objective, what sheer rubbish. What a ridiculous answer, love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Railway Man Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 As you go through life the longer you realise when someone who had made a potentially dodgy decision asks you to "trust them" that they in reality know it's going to be a cock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 I'll get behind him when we start improving thanks. I'd rather get behind him until we're relegated. That sort of mentality kept us up last season. Most of us thought Pearson was having a mare but we got behind them and it paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 One simple question, Susan, you didn't answer that the fans WANTED. Why, specifically, was Pearson sacked? - I don't agree with Pearson not meeting the club's long-term objective, what sheer rubbish. What a ridiculous answer, love. But you know why he was sacked. What is she going to do, read a transcript of the bust up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexicalChoice Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Why can't people understand that football is just a load of old cliched bollocks, like everything else now.. And secondly, why do people presume that just because they support a football club; they have the right to know exclusively what's going on inside the place, as a business - which essentially (and unfortunately) is all that it is nowadays. No one gives a shit about what you think or if you agree with the decisions they make so just grow up and just get on with it, else do one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 But you know why he was sacked. What is she going to do, read a transcript of the bust up? She didn't relate to it in relation to his son's antics did he (which apparently was the major impact of the decision)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 This quote made me laugh. "I read the papers so I know there was criticism from some areas, but I think the majority of the supporters still understand because we have demonstrated it consistently over the last five years," she said. Sven? Sousa? Infact the person you have sacked has demonstrated consistently to take the team from L1 > C > PL not your shit decsions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 People clearly missed the legal bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 This quote made me laugh. Sven? Sousa? Infact the person you have sacked has demonstrated consistently to take the team from L1 > C > PL not your shit decsions. You do have to wonder what planet they are on when they can come out with stuff like that and expect people to swallow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Susan Whelan didn't sack anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhateram Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 People clearly missed the legal bit I read it, still think it's radiculous. This statement makes me even more angry, it basically says we know you are angry, but we don't give a feck! No Susan I don't trust your decision, nor do I believe that Nige didn't have the same vision for this team as you did. Surely the only vision for next year is top ten? Nige wouldn't have disagreed about that, poor excuse for a cover up! The words 'trust me' only say to me that your nit sure you have done the right thing. frustrating indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 You do have to wonder what planet they are on when they can come out with stuff like that and expect people to swallow it. It shows that what the fans think and the top authority of the club think are more different than some think, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 What Webbo says exactly. There are confidential issues and on "both sides" as stated. Quite apart from the legal aspects the least said the soonest mended for the club, for our manager and for anyone else involved. As for expecting those responsible for appointing Ranieri to "fall on their swords" if things go wrong I cannot for one moment imagine that they've deliberately appointed someone they didn't think was the best available for the job. Is every employer expected to resign if an appointment proves unsatisfactory? I don't think so. Maybe people would be better to consider the massive input our owners have directed towards the club thus far - and with every indication that will continue both on and off the field. As for fans giving Ranieri any kind of stick, without in any way pretending to know how good his appointment will prove to be in the end, to me it's a measure of our ambition that he not only wanted but relished the job and we should be glad that the owners showed the commitment to invest in him. I don't think much more could have been expected of them. Especially as other choices, perhaps more favoured by some fans, didn't want to come here. The way things stand right now I can see some fans' attitudes contributing more towards our getting relegated than the owners or manager when, in fact, they perhaps need to get behind the club and the manager more than ever. None of this is Ranieri's fault in any case so why make him a victim?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 You do have to wonder what planet they are on when they can come out with stuff like that and expect people to swallow it. I know its laughable, demonstarted what exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Again, Susan Whelan didn't sack Nigel Pearson What Webbo says exactly. There are confidential issues and on "both sides" as stated. Quite apart from the legal aspects the least said the soonest mended for the club, for our manager and for anyone else involved. As for expecting those responsible for appointing Ranieri to "fall on their swords" if things go wrong I cannot for one moment imagine that they've deliberately appointed someone they didn't think was the best available for the job. Is every employer expected to resign if an appointment proves unsatisfactory? I don't think so. Maybe people would be better to consider the massive input our owners have directed towards the club thus far - and with every indication that will continue both on and off the field. As for fans giving Ranieri any kind of stick, without in any way pretending to know how good his appointment will prove to be in the end, to me it's a measure of our ambition that he not only wanted but relished the job and we should be glad that the owners showed the commitment to invest in him. I don't think much more could have been expected of them. Especially as other choices, perhaps more favoured by some fans, didn't want to come here. Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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