brucey Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Obviously not a whole lot of performances to go off yet other than the oxford game and youtube clips.. but they both seem very different in style Mixed opinions on the oxford thread, some feel Zieler will soon become no 1 GK, others are concerned about him not guarding goal etc.. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 difference in style is a good point actually. Kasper would be more effective when we play on the counter, with his long & direct kicking. zieler seems more comfortable on the ball so will be useful when teams sit back and we have lots of possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 20 July 2016 Author Share Posted 20 July 2016 First impressions from what I've seen so far.. Schmeichel has faster reflexes and gets up faster to prepare for the rebound Schmeichel tends to be more acrobatic, going to ground easier and punches the ball away more Zieler tries to stay on his feet and grab the ball more Zieler has more accurate distribution Zieler comes further away from goal to take goal kicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 12 minutes ago, foxes21 said: difference in style is a good point actually. Kasper would be more effective when we play on the counter, with his long & direct kicking. zieler seems more comfortable on the ball so will be useful when teams sit back and we have lots of possession. Zielers distribution seemed better than Kaspers, he actually managed to keep it within the field of play yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jit Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Zieler kept a clean sheet, he's no.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 36 minutes ago, brucey said: Obviously not a whole lot of performances to go off yet Thoughts? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 I noticed Schmeichel has been eating a few too many lard sandwiches this summer break. Both solid keepers so I dont care who plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 25 minutes ago, Babylon said: Zielers distribution seemed better than Kaspers, he actually managed to keep it within the field of play yesterday. Not disagreeing, just up for discussion.. I am v sure some statistics will show otherwise.But even now...yes I was frustrated sometimes when kaspers releases Went out...but again looking through all games, he st sA rted some damn good moves, many leading up to chances, A few actually to goals.After Nov. Imo he became next to Lloris the best shot stopper. We tend to give GK more pain when analysing their donations and performances, dont ever Forget the obvious How many misses, real chances Vardy and Mahrez blew!! If heavy critical Mahrez Should of reached 20+ goals, and Vardy could easily hagVe got the Golden boot. BUT most importantly all 3 got us that damn illusive title.KS deserved that cleansheet title, our defence with Kante, Morgan, and Fuchs antics, with poor ta ck les and postioning, put an end to that...one should also question... But hey-ho , I for one try not to go so deep. Zieler still has to prove himself, though what I have see of him in Germany, he will have no problem to strutt hid stuff.and show foxes fans his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 In the long run it will be great to be able to play both of them throughout the season, given our increase in fixtures. Between the domestic cups and European competition, there should be plenty of playing time for both of them. Whether or not Zieler supplants Schmeichel as the overall #1 keeper is yet to be seen. I'm just glad we signed a capable keeper, because we were fortunate last season to not need someone to come in for Kasper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 50 minutes ago, Babylon said: Zielers distribution seemed better than Kaspers, he actually managed to keep it within the field of play yesterday. Now. A lot of people don't see the genius within Kaspers kicking especially when we are in a winning position. Why does he kick to the wings? Answers on a post card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousefox Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Kasper just won the prem and come second in the golden glove. I'm pretty happy with him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 22 minutes ago, Ashley said: Now. A lot of people don't see the genius within Kaspers kicking especially when we are in a winning position. Why does he kick to the wings? Answers on a post card. Because we don't have a big man upfront. Riyad and albrighton are more likely to win a header against an average sized full back than Vardy against the likes of Shawcross, Terry or Mertesacker. It also offer the chance to win throw ins off any loose bits and push higher up the pitch like kicking into touch in rugby. Common sense really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertstreet Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 24 minutes ago, Ashley said: Now. A lot of people don't see the genius within Kaspers kicking especially when we are in a winning position. Why does he kick to the wings? Answers on a post card. there's a guy in the crowd he really doesn't like so keeps trying to hit him in the face with the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 45 minutes ago, lgfualol said: I noticed Schmeichel has been eating a few too many lard sandwiches this summer break. Both solid keepers so I dont care who plays. Looked a bit like Schluppy has been on a few sarnies too,but didn't take anything away from a good performance against Oxford !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Zieler seems like a great keeper but there's no way he'll be a replacement for Kasper; he's got a great relationship with Morgan Huth Simpson and Fuchs and that's something that takes a long time to build. Also, second in the Golden Gloves list - to replace him would be madness. look forward to seeing Zieler in the League Cup and FA Cup though - with Schwarzer we didn't stand much of a chance in either competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Schmeichel number one until knocked off his perch which will take some doing. We are in a great position here having two keepers battling it out. If Zieler reaches number one status he's going to be a phenomenal signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Schmeichel still can't set his walls up properly for free kicks, and his starting position is at times questionable. Again yesterday, he should have saved it. Needs to study Neuer more, he literally put two or three men in his wall during the European Championships and it was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 I am just pleased that we have two fine 'keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 1 hour ago, Aleksz said: Because we don't have a big man upfront. Riyad and albrighton are more likely to win a header against an average sized full back than Vardy against the likes of Shawcross, Terry or Mertesacker. It also offer the chance to win throw ins off any loose bits and push higher up the pitch like kicking into touch in rugby. Common sense really. Fair point but missing the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 21 minutes ago, Ashley said: Fair point but missing the bigger picture. What's the bigger picture? He goes long we lose possession as neither Okazaki or Vardy are likely to win it in the air. We put it out to the wings and like Aleksz said we might have a better chance of winning the ball or getting a throw in. Yes the ball may go out of play a bit but that's mainly due to the fact his distribution is made for quick, instant attacks. Look how many attacks we have from Kasper's quick release of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 2 hours ago, Aleksz said: Because we don't have a big man upfront. Riyad and albrighton are more likely to win a header against an average sized full back than Vardy against the likes of Shawcross, Terry or Mertesacker. It also offer the chance to win throw ins off any loose bits and push higher up the pitch like kicking into touch in rugby. Common sense really. Fair point but missing the bigger picture. 42 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: What's the bigger picture? He goes long we lose possession as neither Okazaki or Vardy are likely to win it in the air. We put it out to the wings and like Aleksz said we might have a better chance of winning the ball or getting a throw in. Yes the ball may go out of play a bit but that's mainly due to the fact his distribution is made for quick, instant attacks. Look how many attacks we have from Kasper's quick release of the ball. Ball goes out of play clock still ticking, good gamesmanship. Was touched on in another topic before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 Kasper's distribution is probably the best in the premier league. He has the odd shite kick out of play but as previously said, his quick thinking is fantastic and that flat drop kick he can do is the best I've seen. Still crap at saving free kicks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 20 July 2016 Share Posted 20 July 2016 29 minutes ago, Ashley said: Fair point but missing the bigger picture. Ball goes out of play clock still ticking, good gamesmanship. Was touched on in another topic before. But it happens all game long, it happened all the time yesterday when losing in a friendly with zero need to kill time. I get it that quick release, and risky balls will lead to errors. But half the time it's just dog muck kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxing Posted 21 July 2016 Share Posted 21 July 2016 i would like to see zieler really competing with kasper for the goalkeeping jersey, that is what we need competiton for every position to keep players on their toes and up for the fight,to spur each other on to another great season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 21 July 2016 Share Posted 21 July 2016 19 hours ago, Ashley said: Now. A lot of people don't see the genius within Kaspers kicking especially when we are in a winning position. Why does he kick to the wings? Answers on a post card. Because it's the first thing Goalkeeping coaches teach regarding distribution? Because it is the best approach to 'percentage football' when it comes to long balls? Because it can, and has, lead to: - possession higher up the pitch - putting the opposition on the back foot - created chances People only remember the couple that go out of play. Tell me, what would you prefer? 10 kicks - All down the middle - 10/10 stay in play - 4/10 result in flick-ons, 6/10 come back our way - 1 out of those 4 results in an attacking position for us - 1 out of those 6 leads to a chance to the opposition or 10 kicks - All down the wings - 8/10 stay in play, 2 result in throw-ins to opposition in their own half - 2 of the 8 result in us being in a good attacking position - Of the remaining 6, an even split of each team ending up with safe possession Bottom line? Less danger, more chance of creating something. It's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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