Tuna Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 No excuses for the lack of coordination and concentration today. We've looked as apalling as we've done in years today, everyone has been utterly atrocious. I think we've relied too much on Wes, Huth, Fuchs and Simpson continuing on from last season and we've not added any real competition or cover in this area. We were pursuing Keane after signing Hernandez so we knew we were short of quality competition in this area. We didn't get him and left it as it was. To have only one right back in the squad is very poor, Simpson has no competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee7 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Conceding 12 goals in 3 matches against Liverpool, Chelsea and Man united shows just how defensively weak we have become. We can no longer play 4-4-2 against the big teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisNedry Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Think the biggest problem is the (lack of) tracking from midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charl91 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 I'm sorry, but I've been saying this all season. Amartey is not good enough. He's been poor in every game bar Swansea. He has no positional sense whatsoever, doesn't seem to work hard enough for a defensive midfielder, his passing is terrible and unimaginative, and he misses far too many tackles. I don't care about the "He's only young, he'll get better" bollocks. He's not good enough now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 442 away against teams like this... Why hasn't he done something else?! And defending from corners... Do we do anything in training? Oh yes because we are practicing against our own shit delivery. Going down, don't care if it is Liverpool or Man Utd, defending is Sunday league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 We aren't the usual pressing team from last season which puts pressure on the defence. slimani/Vardy didn't press once in that first half, we are suppose to be a team that defends from the front. can only think its the team trying to conserve energy for Porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 You know it's bad when someone can't wait until the end of the game to start raging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charl91 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 1 minute ago, DennisNedry said: Think the biggest problem is the (lack of) tracking from midfield. You're right. But that's not down to Drinkwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinneyHillRanger Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Slimani hasn't won one header, when he had a chance to head he chested it down to mahrez.... when vardy won a header for him he miscontrolled it.... most of the others have been rubbish except Drinky. Amartey been dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishOxide Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 This is the worst we've played since 6-0 at Portsmouth. Big Nige wouldn't have allowed this to happen either, we would at least be in the match, there would be headbutts all over the place. United are class without Fellaini and Rooney dragging them down, and our 442 cannot persist against teams like this without Kante. It's unfair to put Amartey in at 21 years old and expect him to be the same. ****ing fuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drygon Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 I'd like to say that Daniel Amartey has done nothing but a horrendous performance today and is the one who derserve most criticism today. And to be honest, he's quite very bad against top teams... The absence of N'Golo Kanté will probably never be filled for a long time I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 United have taken advantage of taking the lead when we were on top and they were poor. The defending has let us down completely, but that includes the whole side not just the back 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 not just the defence but Amartey too. Shocking not to track Mata from their 3rd goal. But we do need more quality. Won't be surprised if Hernandez plays more regularly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 we cant blame the back five, when the 6 infront of them aren't pressing anybody or being aggressive enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Anyone who's gone today deserves a refund out the players pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 24 September 2016 Author Share Posted 24 September 2016 5 minutes ago, Drygon said: I'd like to say that Daniel Amartey has done nothing but a horrendous performance today and is the one who derserve most criticism today. And to be honest, he's quite very bad against top teams... The absence of N'Golo Kanté will probably never be filled for a long time I think. The problem is Amartey is a 21 year old kid who has only played in the Danish league which lets face it is about as good as the SPL. It's hard to expect too much from him but there we are, we have nobody else. We didn't strenthen enough in the summer, we were unlucky with Papy Mendy's injury but we are exhausting Drinkwater by playing him every game and the only other option we have is King who I'm sorry to say, yes good club man, but he's best coming off the bench to see out victories not starting games, realistically he's not good enough for where we are supposed to be now. Letting Inler go looks like a mistake as he may have come in useful in matches such as these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertfox2 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 10 minutes ago, DennisNedry said: Think the biggest problem is the (lack of) tracking from midfield. Nail on head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaqo88 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 10 minutes ago, Charl91 said: I'm sorry, but I've been saying this all season. Amartey is not good enough. He's been poor in every game bar Swansea. He has no positional sense whatsoever, doesn't seem to work hard enough for a defensive midfielder, his passing is terrible and unimaginative, and he misses far too many tackles. I don't care about the "He's only young, he'll get better" bollocks. He's not good enough now. He was good against Brugge and Burnley too, obviously just doesn't have enough against the big teams unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Honestly think we're missing Schmeichel's communication on set pieces. Zieler doesn't seem very vocal at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charl91 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 7 minutes ago, jaqo88 said: He was good against Brugge and Burnley too, obviously just doesn't have enough against the big teams unfortunately Honestly, I don't think he was (and I'm not just saying this in hindsight, I posted as much in the Burnley post-match). He doesn't really offer anything. He's much poorer defensively than Drinkwater is, and Drinky can actually pass the ball on top of it. Amarety only ever plays a 3 yard ball to the nearest blue shirt, and even that doesn't always get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Tbf most of the 8 goals this week have been pathetic attempts at defending corners. You can have the best midfielders in the world but if you can't do the simple things right at set pieces you'll still concede tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinparr71 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Hopefully Utd take there foot off the pedal otherwise god knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CockneyFox Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Why people are blaming the formation when we conceded three goals from corners is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 2 minutes ago, CockneyFox said: Why people are blaming the formation when we conceded three goals from corners is beyond me Same. We haven't been particularly overrun in midfield today, we've just been a shambles defending set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishOxide Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 5 minutes ago, CockneyFox said: Why people are blaming the formation when we conceded three goals from corners is beyond me Because we were dominated in general play too. Remember last season at home to Man City where we set up 451 and got a 0-0 draw? That's how we should be playing against the bigger teams especially away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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