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#1 User is offline   Happy Fox

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:20 AM

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St Ledger said City still had a chance to close the gap.
"It is not over," said the City defender. "Why would it be?
"There are 12 games left, 36 points to play for. We go out to try to win every game, and if we go on another run together and try to kick on then who knows?
"People will write us off against Reading. It is still a possibility because we can take points off Reading, West Ham, Hull and Birmingham, so anything is possible and we won't be giving up the fight yet.
"We have a massive game against Reading now who are on a fantastic run of form, but we still feel it is possible because we are seven points behind, which is just three games.
"We also have Birmingham to play next week which is a huge game for us.
"We have to be confident. We have Saturday and Tuesday games all the way through March, and if we put in another little run then anything is possible."
St Ledger is drawing heart from his experiences at Preston North End in 2009 when they made a late run to gatecrash the play-offs on the last game of the season.
"I was at Preston a couple of years ago when we all thought it was impossible and we beat Cardiff 6-0. In the end it came down to the last day and we took the last play-off place from them on goal difference," he recalled.
"We had won seven of the last 10 before Bristol, which isn't a bad record, and I suppose seven from 11 still isn't bad.
"It is a funny old game and we will keep fighting right to the very end.
"We have a lot of tough away games coming up and very important games.
"Everyone in the changing room believes that we haven't given up yet."
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#2 User is offline   Simo86

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:22 AM

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Would you rather the players say we have no chance and just give up then?
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:24 AM

He's not going to say 'No we've got no chance' is he.

Its just the standard dross players come out with.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:24 AM

Would you rather the players say we have no chance and just give up then?


No but a sense of realism, that they will play the remaining games with pride and if we make the playoffs then so be it and if not then that is fine, this is our problem players are too much word based and not enough action, they should do their talking on the pitch.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:26 AM

No but a sense of realism, that they will play the remaining games with pride and if we make the playoffs then so be it and if not then that is fine, this is our problem players are too much word based and not enough action, they should do their talking on the pitch.


agree with this. i have no respect for trotting out tired cliches, come out and say "its very doubtful, we've been horrendously inconsistent in the league, and some individuals have let themselves down, all I can say is I will try my hardest personally, and hope to make the play offs"
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:26 AM

No but a sense of realism, that they will play the remaining games with pride and if we make the playoffs then so be it and if not then that is fine, this is our problem players are too much word based and not enough action, they should do their talking on the pitch.


Interviews generally take the form of being "word based".

Edited by martyn, 08 March 2012 - 09:26 AM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

No but a sense of realism, that they will play the remaining games with pride and if we make the playoffs then so be it and if not then that is fine, this is our problem players are too much word based and not enough action, they should do their talking on the pitch.

To be honest that is basically what he's saying. They want to win every game, and if they go on a decent run they could mathematically catch up.
I for one am looking for us to build for next season, any sort of play off push is a bonus, but you still want the players to have the right attitude.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:29 AM

agree with this. i have no respect for trotting out tired cliches, come out and say "its very doubtful, we've been horrendously inconsistent in the league, and some individuals have let themselves down, all I can say is I will try my hardest personally, and hope to make the play offs"

Then he'd get slated even more, and other players might take it the wrong way. Good for morale that.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:30 AM

Interviews generally take the form of being "word based".


I appreciate that, it is just getting to repetitive for my liking this playoffs whether we can make it or not, mathematically it isn't impossible, but a sense of realism needs to hits home imo.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:31 AM

Get him on the optimistic bus! :scarf:
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:32 AM

foxes never quit. cmon guys lets behind the guys. i know its a long shot but lets do our jobs and we dont know where it could lead. im going NOW to get a ticket for the reading game.

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#12 User is offline   davieG

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:34 AM

It's been pretty much standard fare for the last decade although most of that was how we were going to avoid relegation. It's not unique to Leicester City or to football and has become more regular since the internet gave them all a voice and space to fill.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

Then he'd get slated even more, and other players might take it the wrong way. Good for morale that.


is it better for morale to live in a dream world? if, as i assume they are, discussing in the changing room how poor they have been, and the obvious failings, then why can't they come out and say it, instead of more boring dross?
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

I appreciate that, it is just getting to repetitive for my liking this playoffs whether we can make it or not, mathematically it isn't impossible, but a sense of realism needs to hits home imo.


Maybe St.Ledger genuinely believes it possible, especially considering what happened when he played at Preston. Maybe Pearson has informed his players to maintain positivity in front of the media?

It's not worth worrying about what players say in the media, it's toeing the line dross 90% of the time.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:38 AM

He's saying we can, and we can. We just won't.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:47 AM

Alright, we lost against Bristol City but surely, given that they were at the wrong end of the table, struggling to score goals, let alone win, and given the way that when faced with such opposition, Leicester traditionally always like to come down to their level, defeat was not entirely unexpected.

So, we don't make it easy for ourselves and this is no exception but why be a Jonah? The season's not over till the FA(T) referee blows the pea out of his whistle on the 28th April at roundabout 2-18pm.

There are thirty six points to play for. If we get 16 out of 18 at home and 11 out of 18 away, that's 75 points which should put us in with a decent shout for the top six.

As the song says 'I believe in miracles!'
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:47 AM

At the moment "no chance", but things in this league change so fast and so often, we have to play several play-off rivals ie Reading Blackpool Hull Leeds Burnley, these are the games that we must perform in. This time next week (if miraculously we got 6 more points), the forum will be buzzing.... massive IF though
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:50 AM

We won't make the play-offs, but the season is far from over. It's time to build a winning mentality and try out some new ideas ready for next season. Teams that win towards the end of the season often carry that form forward into the beginning of the next season (eg. Middlesbrough last year).

Lets give Schlupp some substantial game time, give Pantsil a try, give Drinkwater more time in the middle of the park, bring through some of the younger players, and build some flexibility in by trying different formations, making us able to adapt game by game.

Lets remove some of the hype and the pressure around the place, and let the players relax and enjoy playing football.

.... and enjoy the FA Cup!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:33 AM

We won't make the play-offs, but the season is far from over. It's time to build a winning mentality and try out some new ideas ready for next season. Teams that win towards the end of the season often carry that form forward into the beginning of the next season (eg. Middlesbrough last year).

Lets give Schlupp some substantial game time, give Pantsil a try, give Drinkwater more time in the middle of the park, bring through some of the younger players, and build some flexibility in by trying different formations, making us able to adapt game by game.

Lets remove some of the hype and the pressure around the place, and let the players relax and enjoy playing football.

.... and enjoy the FA Cup!


I agree, let's build a winning mentality and finish the season with a strong run.

That way I'll get better relegation odds over the summer
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:48 AM

I'm not sure what he has said wrong? It is possible we have just won 3 out of the last 4 games if we keep up that form we should hit the Play Offs? Don't think anyone would bet on it now but its not impossible far stranger things have happened in football why should we expect the players to give up its their job
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:00 AM

its not over untill its mathematically impossible :thumbup: AV IT LEDGE!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:22 AM

Delusional? - Maybe
Wants to keep his place in the squad after the woeful Bristol game? - Definatly
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:39 AM

They can talk the talk, shame they are not capable of walking the walk.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:02 PM

I've not given up on automatic promotion, so no way is he delusional.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:13 PM

its not over untill its mathematically impossible :thumbup: AV IT LEDGE!

This!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

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St Ledger said City still had a chance to close the gap.
"It is not over," said the City defender. "Why would it be?
"There are 12 games left, 36 points to play for. We go out to try to win every game, and if we go on another run together and try to kick on then who knows?
"People will write us off against Reading. It is still a possibility because we can take points off Reading, West Ham, Hull and Birmingham, so anything is possible and we won't be giving up the fight yet.
"We have a massive game against Reading now who are on a fantastic run of form, but we still feel it is possible because we are seven points behind, which is just three games.
"We also have Birmingham to play next week which is a huge game for us.
"We have to be confident. We have Saturday and Tuesday games all the way through March, and if we put in another little run then anything is possible."
St Ledger is drawing heart from his experiences at Preston North End in 2009 when they made a late run to gatecrash the play-offs on the last game of the season.
"I was at Preston a couple of years ago when we all thought it was impossible and we beat Cardiff 6-0. In the end it came down to the last day and we took the last play-off place from them on goal difference," he recalled.
"We had won seven of the last 10 before Bristol, which isn't a bad record, and I suppose seven from 11 still isn't bad.
"It is a funny old game and we will keep fighting right to the very end.
"We have a lot of tough away games coming up and very important games.
"Everyone in the changing room believes that we haven't given up yet."


Stopped reading after this. Does he mean another 2 game winning streak? He has to at least appear to be optimistic though doesnt he.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:40 PM

Why does St Ledger keep on talking about ANOTHER run, we haven't had one single run of good games all season :S
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

Stopped reading after this. Does he mean another 2 game winning streak? He has to at least appear to be optimistic though doesnt he.


lol

That's what I took from it. Another epic 180 minute winning streak.... G'won lads!!!

I don't mean to knock what he or obviously Pearson think but the realist in me thinks promotion's most probably out of reach now
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

St Ledger can talk all he wants about 'we can still reach the play-offs' but the fact is we won't because we have been inconsistent all season!

Edited by iamafox, 08 March 2012 - 02:05 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:01 PM

Not said the right thing in an interview such a crime.
But oh know lets fvcking moan about it. Sack him sell him he's fvcking shite.

FFS is there nothing people in here won't moan about?

Had he said we've given up on the league and gonna try for the cup someone would have come on sayin He's a quiter.

And it did'nt have to be SSL any of them would have got it from some in here.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

can't understand why anyone would give up on the league already, 7 points off play-offs and still a quarter of the season to go, i for one am not giving up, still loads to play for :scarf:
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:10 PM

Of course he hasn't given up. For starters Pearson has said a few games ago that anyone in the team who talks of giving up until it's mathematically impossible is going to get short shrift from him.

It's the right attitude, regardless of the likelihood of it.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:30 PM

I wouldn't say we were completely out of making the play-offs.

Anything can happen in football, we just need to keep winning and hope on other results going in our favour.

The only thing is...we seem to be incapable of keeping up good form and winning game after game.

My heart says yes, my head says no.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:09 PM

Why the hell would anyone want the players or the manger to give up before it's mathematically done and dusted? Until it's no longer possible you have to try your hardest to do it, whether we are good enough or not, or if it's likely or not shoudn't come into it.

People just seem to want to moan about something.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:41 PM

Good lad St Ledger! Come join the optimistic bus chap. He makes reference to PNE who came back from a worse position than ours. You could also refer to Reading's surge a few years back where they were on the same amount of points (ish) at this time in the season. It isn't over until Nige and the team say so, until then I will keep (yes probably, dilusionally) beleiving.

Up the city!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:44 PM

Why the hell would anyone want the players or the manger to give up before it's mathematically done and dusted? Until it's no longer possible you have to try your hardest to do it, whether we are good enough or not, or if it's likely or not shoudn't come into it.

People just seem to want to moan about something.


I don't think people are complaining about him saying these things per se, I think it's the fact that they keep talking all this pseudo motivational bullshiit, but then NEVER back it up with any real fight or spirit. talk talkers, not walk walkers.

Edited by shade, 08 March 2012 - 05:44 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

Why the hell would anyone want the players or the manger to give up before it's mathematically done and dusted? Until it's no longer possible you have to try your hardest to do it, whether we are good enough or not, or if it's likely or not shoudn't come into it.



People just seem to want to moan about something.


Spot on Babs. I certainly wont be abandoning hope until the maths forces me to (if it ever does :thumbup: ).
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

Of course he hasn't given up. For starters Pearson has said a few games ago that anyone in the team who talks of giving up until it's mathematically impossible is going to get short shrift from him.

It's the right attitude, regardless of the likelihood of it.


I was talking about half the fans on this thread
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:56 PM

St Ledger is probably a bit delusional although until its mathematically impossible they should be busting a gut every game and saying the right things etc etc
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:31 PM

St Ledger is probably a bit delusional although until its mathematically impossible they should be busting a gut every game and saying the right things etc etc


It'd have been nice if they had been doing this all season, instead of just for the last 12 games.
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