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Ian Walker

Defender John Curtis
Defender/Centre back Matt Elliott
Defender/Midfielder Riccy Scimeca
Defender/Midfielder Alan Rogers
Defender/Left back Ben Thatcher
Midfielder Muzzy Izzet
Midfielder Keith Gillespie
Midfielder/Forward James Scowcroft
Forward Les Ferdinand
Forward Paul Dickov
 
 
Thats the team we played against Southampton in the 2003/2004 season, the first game we returned to the premiership last. Micky Adams added a lot of experience.
 
I personally think the team back then had nothing to prove, they had all pretty much done it before. This team wasn't as 'tight' as the squad we have now either... Alot of individual talent and not much team chemistry...
 
IMO, this years approach is better. Alot more fresh faces and points to prove. They will all want to showcase their talents in the big stage so they can picked for international teams etc etc... Where as Les, Dickov, Gillespie... Everyone knew what they were all about and they were to 'past it' to care. They didn't have love for the club, they just wanted to line their pockets before retirement!... Dickov probably being the exception as he ran his knackers off!
 
So the question is & the reason for this topic...
 
Do you think the approach Pearson is taking is more reliable than Micky Adams' approach?
 
 
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If Adams had sorted the defense out we'd of actually done quite well. Thatcher aside they were all terrible. No shortage of goals in the squad that season. Unfortuanatley the answer to our defensive woe's was the likes of Dabizas and Howey.

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If Adams had sorted the defense out we'd of actually done quite well. Thatcher aside they were all terrible. No shortage of goals in the squad that season. Unfortuanatley the answer to our defensive woe's was the likes of Dabizas and Howey.

So’ton (h): led 2-0, drew 2-2.

Spurs (h): led 1-0, lost 2-1.

Wolves (a): led 3-0, lost 4-3.

Ch’ton (h): led 1-0, drew 1-1.

Everton (a): led 2-1, lost 3-2.

N’castle (h): led 1-0, drew 1-1.

Bolton (a): led 1-0, drew 2-2.

Boro (a): led 3-1, drew 3-3.

Bolton (h): led 1-0, drew 1-1.

Spurs (a): led 4-3, drew 4-4.

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Bit different though considering Adams had his hands tied really. Now, we have plenty more cash to spend and we can afford to break our transfer record. Adams himself said a lot of signings went wrong... Personally, Ferdinand and Thatcher were solid signings and Bent was decent as a loan player. That's about it.

 

I try to forget about some of the games though. Bolton at home, Manchester United at home (Ruud hit a great hattrick) and especially Wolves away. Haven't been to Molinuex since that 4-3 defeat... On the other hand, my only trip to Manchester City resulted in a 3-0 away win don't think we will be seeing that again anytime soon!

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Bit different though considering Adams had his hands tied really. Now, we have plenty more cash to spend and we can afford to break our transfer record. Adams himself said a lot of signings went wrong... Personally, Ferdinand and Thatcher were solid signings and Bent was decent as a loan player. That's about it.

I try to forget about some of the games though. Bolton at home, Manchester United at home (Ruud hit a great hattrick) and especially Wolves away. Haven't been to Molinuex since that 4-3 defeat... On the other hand, my only trip to Manchester City resulted in a 3-0 away win don't think we will be seeing that again anytime soon!

Bolton at home wasn't that bad that season, it was just a boring nil nil, villa on the other hand was the worst game I've ever been to.

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That season was peculiar, we made a right mess from some winning positions. Our front 3 was decent and Izzet still ran the show in the middle, we just lacked another midfield magician and some players who could defend. Although our squad this time around hasn't got many household names, we have a point to prove and the confidence and feel good factor around our club is completely different. Funnily enough Nigel seems to be trying to recruit strikers in the same numbers that Adams did, who often played 4 in a game with 2 on the wings.

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The Leeds game at Elland Road, though we lost, was brilliant. 2-0 down and we somehow come back. Dickov's goal was good, but Izzet's was special. Typical Izzet. Still one of my favourite ever LCFC goals.

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I think the point I am going to make is key. It tells us a lot about the last time we went up.

I remember talking to MA in the pub after a Championship game and we had Muzzy missing. He told me that we were a very average team without Muzzy.

Then we went up and we did build, but we didn't really have a great base to build from. This was the managers view, not mine.

This time around we do have a very good base. We have some excellent players and we have a decent group. We are not reliant on Muzzy type of player with a few add ons.

This is completely different this time and I think we have a much better chance of doing well based on the squad that was put together last season.

Yes times have changed, but having the solid foundations and a decent group should see us have a much better chance this time around.

Just another thought - speaking to an ex manager of ours, he believes we should at least finish four from bottom. He pointed out that there are QPR and Burnley that we are better than. On top of that, Newcastle were in a massive downturn last season that maybe very difficult to turn round. Villa are getting worse, then there is Swansea and Southampton whose bubble has burst. West Brom also struggled and again may find it difficult.

He told me it is easier for clubs who come up who have good foundations and it is more difficult for teams who are in a downward spiral to turn their situations around.

I think our start is very important, but if we can overcome that, we should do pretty well. There is enough teams who will be carrying hangovers from last season.

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So’ton (h): led 2-0, drew 2-2.

Spurs (h): led 1-0, lost 2-1.

Wolves (a): led 3-0, lost 4-3.

Ch’ton (h): led 1-0, drew 1-1.

Everton (a): led 2-1, lost 3-2.

N’castle (h): led 1-0, drew 1-1.

Bolton (a): led 1-0, drew 2-2.

Boro (a): led 3-1, drew 3-3.

Bolton (h): led 1-0, drew 1-1.

Spurs (a): led 4-3, drew 4-4.

I remember at the time it was quoted that we would have qualified for the Champions League if we had held onto our leads. Probably an exaggeration but the point still stands.

I do like the look our team more this time round though.

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Walker

Curtis Elliott Howie Thatcher

Scowcroft Izzet Scimeca Stewart

Dickov Ferdinand

Vs.

Schmeichel

De Laet Morgan Upson Schlupp

Drinkwater James

Albrighton Knockaert Mahrez

Ulloa

Prediction, 3-1 to the current crop, our front four would have far, far too much for the old defence to cope with, that's even without Vardy and Nugent starting! Drinkwater, i believe has the potential to be better than Muzzy, and we also have the explosive pace if De Laet and Jeff bombing on from full back. No clean sheet though, we always had a goal in us back then, with Muzzy, Dickov, Ferdinand and Bent all getting a decent amount.

I am the most excited I ever have been with our squad though, it's young, they all seem like good mates, which is so under-rated nowadays, there's pace, there solid and organised, there's finally proper power and goals up top, they all look like they'd run through a brick wall for Nige. We have possibly one of the most promising young keepers in Europe at the minute, we have money to spend, we have good owners...

I could go on and on with what's good with our club at the minute. What a difference 6 years makes!

Up the City

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I remember at the time it was quoted that we would have qualified for the Champions League if we had held onto our leads. Probably an exaggeration but the point still stands.

I do like the look our team more this time round though.

It's true, we would've finished on 63 if we had held on to our leads.

Liverpool finished 4th with 60.

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Ian Walker

Defender John Curtis

Defender/Centre back Matt Elliott

Defender/Midfielder Riccy Scimeca

Defender/Midfielder Alan Rogers

Defender/Left back Ben Thatcher

Midfielder Muzzy Izzet

Midfielder Keith Gillespie

Midfielder/Forward James Scowcroft

Forward Les Ferdinand

Forward Paul Dickov

Thats the team we played against Southampton in the 2003/2004 season, the first game we returned to the premiership last. Micky Adams added a lot of experience.

I personally think the team back then had nothing to prove, they had all pretty much done it before. This team wasn't as 'tight' as the squad we have now either... Alot of individual talent and not much team chemistry...

IMO, this years approach is better. Alot more fresh faces and points to prove. They will all want to showcase their talents in the big stage so they can picked for international teams etc etc... Where as Les, Dickov, Gillespie... Everyone knew what they were all about and they were to 'past it' to care. They didn't have love for the club, they just wanted to line their pockets before retirement!... Dickov probably being the exception as he ran his knackers off!

So the question is & the reason for this topic...

Do you think the approach Pearson is taking is more reliable than Micky Adams' approach?

Micky had no money to spend. Working on free's don't forget billy mckinley and keith played for next to nothing the season before. Getting up was a miracle based solely on hanging onto muzzy and dickov at the end of the day. 1 scored goals and one was/is a legend and anyone who grew up with the mon era would name muzzy in most 11's.

For me from that 1st game back in the top flight.

Walker would certainly push kasper at his best.

Elliot in is pomp would still get in my team. I'd take thatcher over konch. 8 times out of 10.

Muzzy would still get in over dd. Sorry.he just would. He unlocked defences and had a ability to go past a player with a change of feet akin to gazza.

And sir les still had it. Infact that header v Southampton should have been enough to win that game.

As for the wolves game. **** off. Think I paid 35quid that day.

Was fuming stood waiting for a train home.

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Micky had no money to spend. Working on free's don't forget billy mckinley and keith played for next to nothing the season before. Getting up was a miracle based solely on hanging onto muzzy and dickov at the end of the day. 1 scored goals and one was/is a legend and anyone who grew up with the mon era would name muzzy in most 11's.

For me from that 1st game back in the top flight.

Walker would certainly push kasper at his best.

Elliot in is pomp would still get in my team. I'd take thatcher over konch. 8 times out of 10.

Muzzy would still get in over dd. Sorry.he just would. He unlocked defences and had a ability to go past a player with a change of feet akin to gazza.

And sir les still had it. Infact that header v Southampton should have been enough to win that game.

As for the wolves game. **** off. Think I paid 35quid that day.

Was fuming stood waiting for a train home.

 

 

So do you think the team back then was better than what we have now?

 

I grew up playing football as a child saying 'I'm Muzzy Izzet' he will probably always be my favorite ever Leicester player but other than him I think our current teams wins all positions.

 

You say Matt Elliot in his prime... He wasn't in his prime here... In fact, I think he was on the sauce!

 

Walker didn't give a crap about us, he just played for the money before he retired. Kasper plays with his heart and loves this club & team mates.

 

The most important thing about our team now is the friendship and chemistry they have they all know each others game and love playing (football) with each other. When 1 player scores the whole team run at him to celebrate.

 

Your right about Micky though, He had no cash to spend and I think the team prematurely went up where as Nigel has built this team over the past couple of years and has had the financial backing & backroom staff to be able to do it quick.

 

I just hope we can hang on the leads this season & they have seriously looked at defending set pieces.

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The worst MOTD I've watched with not knowing the result before hand Wolves 4 - 3 Leicester

One of the worst second half displays I've ever seen from a City side. And I was there having to suffer Brummie jeers near the end.

Not nice..

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What this thread has shown is that last time we were in the premier league we were basicall Walker, Izzet, and Dickov with loads of frees and old men.

This time we're a proper squad where everyone seems to want to fight for each other with no hangers on.

Quite right.

In the eyes of many posters on here, the Micky Adams Premier League side was like something Redknapp would have put out.. :whistle:

This squad now is one for the future.

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So do you think the team back then was better than what we have now?

I grew up playing football as a child saying 'I'm Muzzy Izzet' he will probably always be my favorite ever Leicester player but other than him I think our current teams wins all positions.

You say Matt Elliot in his prime... He wasn't in his prime here... In fact, I think he was on the sauce!

Walker didn't give a crap about us, he just played for the money before he retired. Kasper plays with his heart and loves this club & team mates.

The most important thing about our team now is the friendship and chemistry they have they all know each others game and love playing (football) with each other. When 1 player scores the whole team run at him to celebrate.

Your right about Micky though, He had no cash to spend and I think the team prematurely went up where as Nigel has built this team over the past couple of years and has had the financial backing & backroom staff to be able to do it quick.

I just hope we can hang on the leads this season & they have seriously looked at defending set pieces.

No our team now is better. But muzzy, walker elliott and maybe dickov would make us a stronger squad.

But in terms of team we are a better side, younger side, better footballing team.

The side we gave now would have stayed up easily if you look at the number of points we chucked away.

My one concern is that the premiership maybe a harsher place now with city and Chelsea moneybags liverpools revival.

But we just need to do a spurs and beat wba swansea etc 1-0 any points of the big boys are a bonus.

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