fleckneymike Posted 20 August 2014 Share Posted 20 August 2014 Been whispers that MM is a nasty piece of work. These revelations in a letter sent to the FA by Cardiff show why http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2730307/Malky-Mackay-Iain-Moody-investigated-FA-sexist-racist-homophobic-text-messages-time-Cardiff.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 20 August 2014 Share Posted 20 August 2014 Hopefully neither get a decent job in football ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 20 August 2014 Share Posted 20 August 2014 So that's why he didn't get the Palace job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 20 August 2014 Author Share Posted 20 August 2014 Hopefully neither get a decent job in football ever again An utterly abhorrent **** of a man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 20 August 2014 Share Posted 20 August 2014 Dear me. What's wrong with people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 20 August 2014 Share Posted 20 August 2014 Would explain why he apologised to Tan and agreed a smaller settlement with him. I'm no fan of Tan and never will be but I've always had a feeling there was more to that sacking than what meets the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 20 August 2014 Share Posted 20 August 2014 Utterly disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 There's a lot more to come out about this yet. HOWEVER, what I will say is that I think that publishing this stuff in the paper is a pretty spectacular dick move from Cardiff. Mackay and Moody's behaviour is spectacularly unprofessional but this should remain an internal matter unless it comes up in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse93 Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 There's a lot more to come out about this yet. HOWEVER, what I will say is that I think that publishing this stuff in the paper is a pretty spectacular dick move from Cardiff. Mackay and Moody's behaviour is spectacularly unprofessional but this should remain an internal matter unless it comes up in court. Totally agree, well said. I've been guilty of laughing at/telling a few offensive jokes but Mackay and Moody have taken it too far here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 "I bet you'd love a bounce on her falsies" absolutely disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 There's a lot more to come out about this yet. HOWEVER, what I will say is that I think that publishing this stuff in the paper is a pretty spectacular dick move from Cardiff. Mackay and Moody's behaviour is spectacularly unprofessional but this should remain an internal matter unless it comes up in court. Agree. They have no right at all to make these emails/texts public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 21 August 2014 Author Share Posted 21 August 2014 The man was a bully, why shouldn't they expose it? Former youth team player has now spoken up https://mobile.twitter.com/Ibby_Farah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 He should have been taken through the disciplinary procedures of the organisation like any other business in the World would and dealt with accordingly. As for the player on Twitter, he should speak up at the time. If it was that obvious I'm sure more would have supported him. All smacks of cheap point scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 "I bet you'd love a bounce on her falsies" absolutely disgusting. I bet Malky has pulled down a few denims in his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howlinmadmurfdoc Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 He should have been taken through the disciplinary procedures of the organisation like any other business in the World would and dealt with accordingly. As for the player on Twitter, he should speak up at the time. If it was that obvious I'm sure more would have supported him. All smacks of cheap point scoring. It's not any other business though is it, they all play by different rules to the rest of us when it suits them. Then they cry when the media turns on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Probably not a wise move from Farah, and I am amazed that the Malky messages are now in the public domain. Oh well, as my Grandmother used to say, you should never cross any man that looks like a Bond villain. How right she was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 The man was a bully, why shouldn't they expose it? Former youth team player has now spoken up https://mobile.twitter.com/Ibby_Farah It looks to me that he has an axe to grind about not being given a chance there (and given that he was last season, according to Wiki, at Carmarthen Town it's understandable why he wasn't given that opportunity). His complaints seem to be exclusively about Mackay's treatment of black players at Cardiff, saying that they didn't get a chance because he Mackay is a racist. The same Mackay who signed Fraizer Campbell, Steven Caulker, Theophile-Catherine and Peter Odemwingie. Perhaps the reason that the young black players at Cardiff didn't get a chance is the same reason that the young white and Asian players at Cardiff didn't get a chance? They're pants. As I suggested in my previous message, there's a lot more to this than meets the eye and Mackay is (by all accounts deservedly) only going to end up looking even worse than he does now, possibly to the point of being permanently unemployable (if he's not already), but there's a lot of rather unsavoury bandwagon jumping here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 21 August 2014 Author Share Posted 21 August 2014 He should have been taken through the disciplinary procedures of the organisation like any other business in the World would and dealt with accordingly. As for the player on Twitter, he should speak up at the time. If it was that obvious I'm sure more would have supported him. All smacks of cheap point scoring. No one has spoken up till now, there's still a strong culture of silence in the game. Cardiff fwd the emails and texts to the FA following raids on Moody as part of their corruption investigation, they also fwd them to Palace which led to the withdrawal of the job offer. If Cardiff wanted to be awkward and score points they could have waited for Mackay to get the Cardiff job and then released the documents, they didn't. Remember they are currently suing Palace, tipping them off about how racist their prospective new boss is isn't the kind of thing you'd do if you're point scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 21 August 2014 Author Share Posted 21 August 2014 It looks to me that he has an axe to grind about not being given a chance there (and given that he was last season, according to Wiki, at Carmarthen Town it's understandable why he wasn't given that opportunity). His complaints seem to be exclusively about Mackay's treatment of black players at Cardiff, saying that they didn't get a chance because he Mackay is a racist. The same Mackay who signed Fraizer Campbell, Steven Caulker, Theophile-Catherine and Peter Odemwingie. Perhaps the reason that the young black players at Cardiff didn't get a chance is the same reason that the young white and Asian players at Cardiff didn't get a chance? They're pants. As I suggested in my previous message, there's a lot more to this than meets the eye and Mackay is (by all accounts deservedly) only going to end up looking even worse than he does now, possibly to the point of being permanently unemployable (if he's not already), but there's a lot of rather unsavoury bandwagon jumping here. The player states he wasn't good enough/the managers type but goes on to say that it doesn't excuse Mackay's racism. I'd hardly say he's jumping on the bandwagon, he finally speaking out after not daring to speak about a man who the press had painted as a victim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Probably not a wise move from Farah, and I am amazed that the Malky messages are now in the public domain. Oh well, as my Grandmother used to say, you should never cross any man that looks like a Bond villain. How right she was. I suppose Farah gets an excuse why he didn't get to play, it's ridiculous to suggest young black players wouldn't get a chance though when under him if they were good enough they clearly did. Worse move by Tan, managers aren't going to want to work for chairman prepared to dig this deep to get shit on people, I'm sure most managers have said similar things regarding agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 No one has spoken up till now, there's still a strong culture of silence in the game. Cardiff fwd the emails and texts to the FA following raids on Moody as part of their corruption investigation, they also fwd them to Palace which led to the withdrawal of the job offer. If Cardiff wanted to be awkward and score points they could have waited for Mackay to get the Cardiff job and then released the documents, they didn't. Remember they are currently suing Palace, tipping them off about how racist their prospective new boss is isn't the kind of thing you'd do if you're point scoring. I don't buy into this culture of silence bollocks. Never has it been easier to speak up about racism, look and the nonsense Collymore and Campbell come out and they are treated with exaggerated respect rather than ridicule. Cardiff clearly sat on this information for a while and used it to get at Mackay, of course it's point scoring against him, had they genuine concerns they should have forwarded this immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samilktray Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Comparing Stan Collymore & Sol Campbell to a little known Cardiff youth team player. Surely you realise why it would be easier for them to speak out on racism and be heard, compared to this young chap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 I'm sure most managers have said similar things regarding agents. What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 What makes you say that? Because they are absolutely *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 21 August 2014 Author Share Posted 21 August 2014 I don't buy into this culture of silence bollocks. Never has it been easier to speak up about racism, look and the nonsense Collymore and Campbell come out and they are treated with exaggerated respect rather than ridicule. Cardiff clearly sat on this information for a while and used it to get at Mackay, of course it's point scoring against him, had they genuine concerns they should have forwarded this immediately. Of course there's a culture of silence, if there wasn't this would've been exposed ages ago. Why didn't the coaching staff speak out? Why didn't other players speak out?As I said, there have been whispers about Mackay being a horrible **** you'd want nowhere near your club for ages, yet no one stated publicly why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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