Kitchandro Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. Are you for real? This forum is for football fans, not plastic w*nkers who 'support' more than one team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Remember it kicking off a few times and even in the away end at OT. Crazy to think OT was quite a scarey place to visit, even in 93 when I went there it was pretty intimidating outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. So that's why you want wifi in the ground,so you can keep an eye on all your teams.Makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65RosesFox Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. You don't choose who you support. Your city chooses you. And I am glad I am from Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshy5 Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Shame on any ST holders who get Man Utd ''fans'' tickets in the home end. I was asked by a someone but i wouldnt get one for him on principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. I lived in Barnsley for 18 months. Found the tykes and blades to be total bell ends but the Owls were great. Went to a few games always look out for there results and hope they join us in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxInTheBirstallBox Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. I agree with that part But glory hunting counts are simply counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 My Grandad is a secret Man Utd fan even though he's got a season ticket with me and my brother. willy puller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallForEngland Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 I'm a Real Madrid fan. I've never been to any games and have never participated in the club though but they're still "my" club. Somehow. Being a fan means being part of the club - something I don't think you can do if you've never attended any matches. No. Being a "fan" doesn't require any of those things. Why would you believe that it does? Take any definition of "fan" from any dictionary and not a single one will specify that attending performances or "participating in the club" (whatever that means) is a prerequisite for being a fan of anything. Perhaps you could write a list of instances in which you would grant "fan" status so everyone knows whether they are a fan or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. It's the people who are stuck in the childish mindset of 'supporting' several teams who need to mature a touch. I used to like the big clubs when I was little but I moved away from that with age, as do most people. It seems to me like your comment should be applied in the other direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller in Tights Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Really can't stand Man Utd. And as for those Leicester people who support Man U, the lowest of the low. I might be a bit primeval but I am of the belief you support your local team. When I lived in Portsmouth, I still tried to see Leicester when I could but I would also go and watch Pompey because I loved live football, but if Leicester played Pompey there was no doubt who I supported. These Man U scum in Leicester are not from Manchester. They are the worst sort of supporters, no imagination whatsoever. They just chose the biggest most successful club they could think of when growing up. They had no real parental guidance. Any in the Leicester end deserve what comes to them. Come on City, thrash the United scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 I watched Man U beat Munich in the champions league in a pub full of so called Man U fans. Despite the late comeback and injury time winner there was no real passion, no going ballistic or wild celebrations, they all sat there happy with the result without any feeling or depth of pride or jubilation you'd expect or that you get from following your team live. The cost and hardships, ups and downs of following the team in the community where you live in. When Leicester are doing well the buzz that goes around the factories and offices is clear to see and feel, when we're struggling that is felt too, as a fan supporting your local team you feel and breathe it, there's no getting away from it. While these so called fans enjoy the success they can't feel it the same as supporters living and breathing it. For many who follow Man U it's like watching coronation street and eastenders, it's something that's on TV every week that they watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 No. Being a "fan" doesn't require any of those things. Why would you believe that it does? Take any definition of "fan" from any dictionary and not a single one will specify that attending performances or "participating in the club" (whatever that means) is a prerequisite for being a fan of anything. Perhaps you could write a list of instances in which you would grant "fan" status so everyone knows whether they are a fan or not. Standard lying to try and get out of a sticky situation. You know full well what participating in a club means. I explained it in my post after all. Attending games so you experience the club - victories, defeats, atmosphere, tension, stadium - builds a link with that club that other people don't have. The reason you need to participate with the club is also fairly easy to understand. You wouldn't call yourself friends with someone else you've never met or talked to would you? You have no shared experiences with them so you wouldn't claim to have a relationship with them either. I think this applies to football too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallForEngland Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Are you for real? This forum is for football fans, not plastic w*nkers who 'support' more than one team. You must know how hilariously self-defeating this post is? I genuinely don't believe anybody would post this with no irony at all so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are being very clever and have a painfully dry sense of humour. So that's why you want wifi in the ground,so you can keep an eye on all your teams.Makes sense now. Yes, it depends who is winning at the time though. When Man U were doing well I supported them but these days they aren't really up there so I tend to use my phone to look at Man City highlights during the 65 minutes of the match I sometimes watch, and if my phone case breaks I snip off one of my fingers, melt it, and fashion a new one because I am as plastic as they come. You don't choose who you support. Your city chooses you. And I am glad I am from Leicester. Quite possibly the most cringe-worthy forum contribution I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallForEngland Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 It's the people who are stuck in the childish mindset of 'supporting' several teams who need to mature a touch. I used to like the big clubs when I was little but I moved away from that with age, as do most people. It seems to me like your comment should be applied in the other direction. What if the second team wasn't Man Utd? Is it just "big clubs" you have a problem with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 You must know how hilariously self-defeating this post is? I genuinely don't believe anybody would post this with no irony at all so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are being very clever and have a painfully dry sense of humour. Yeh you can bluff all you like but you and I both know there was nothing ironic about that post nor is there any sane reason to think there was. Face it, you don't really belong on a forum for football fans if you think supporting two teams is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Why does everyone have to be exclusively partisan to a single team? Some people might have parents or other relatives that make them interested in another team, they might have moved from their hometown and grown fond of another club, or they might just like more than one team because that's how they feel. But so what if they do? What extra entitlement are you afforded because of your exclusive "loyalty" to one team? Grow up. Yeah, funny how their other team is never like Bury or Stockport County though isn't it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxInTheBirstallBox Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 What if the second team wasn't Man Utd? Is it just "big clubs" you have a problem with? No its people who jump ship from one big team to another just because they are bored or some other stupid reason. plastics are the lowest. Just a matter of interest, which teams do you support (this week)??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 People who support more than one team are freaks. See Leicesterpool. So your calling Al Young a freak then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesapeepingtom Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 I make up for these knob ends then as I was born and bred in Manchester and am a glory hunting leicester fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallForEngland Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Standard lying to try and get out of a sticky situation. You know full well what participating in a club means. I explained it in my post after all. Attending games so you experience the club - victories, defeats, atmosphere, tension, stadium - builds a link with that club that other people don't have. The reason you need to participate with the club is also fairly easy to understand. You wouldn't call yourself friends with someone else you've never met or talked to would you? You have no shared experiences with them so you wouldn't claim to have a relationship with them either. I think this applies to football too. Oxford Dictionary: "A person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing" MW: 1. An enthusiastic devotee 2. An ardent admirer or enthusiast Dictionary.com An enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity etc Seriously, I will actually be really happy if you find me a definition of "fan" in any dictionary anywhere that classes attending performances as a prerequisite for fandom. At the most, it is one possible signifier of somebody's attitude towards a "sport, pastime, celebrity etc" - it might be evidence that suggests somebody is a fan - but it is not a defining factor in being one. Again, read the No True Scotsman page from start to finish and then try and make your current argument with a straight face. You are trying to redefine a term to suit your own ideas and biases. I think there is a key part in your post which demonstrates how gravely you misunderstand the relationship between a "fan" and whatever he is a "fan" of. You said: "You wouldn't call yourself friends with someone else you've never met or talked to would you? You have no shared experiences with them so you wouldn't claim to have a relationship with them either. I think this applies to football too." You surely must see how nonsensical this is? They are different relationships and aren't comparable at all. Being a fan requires no active reciprocation from the recipient of your affection whatsoever. "Friends" implies a mutual exchange of affection or whatever emotion chiefly connects the two parties - that's why I don't say I am friends with Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden - I am a fan of his, not a friend of his. I have all the information and "experiences" I need to be able to be "an enthusiastic devotee or admirer" without ever having seen the band play live and without him ever being aware of my existence. I might have heard their music on CDs, online, or on the tele. At which point in this process can I call myself a "fan" and safely avoid being told I am not one by you? Here's the long and short of it - you don't get to tell everybody else what a "fan" is and whether or not they qualify as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesolo Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Alot of my mates are Liverpool fans they go to the odd game a few have season tickets and a tiny group go to European away games, can remember when Liverpool won the Champ's League against AC Milan and and I was in a shithole pub with them and the whole place was buzzing as they made that famous comeback from being 3-0 down at half time. Just when Gerrard was about to lift the Cup i snuck behind the bar a ripped the sky card out the box, i just couldnt resist it but they went fvcking mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Remember watching the Barcelona United Champions League final years back in York. Me and a group of friends who all despise Utd. When cheering the Barca win at the final whistle the United fans near us told us to "Fvck off back to Spain". Oh the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Really can't stand Man Utd. And as for those Leicester people who support Man U, the lowest of the low. I might be a bit primeval but I am of the belief you support your local team. When I lived in Portsmouth, I still tried to see Leicester when I could but I would also go and watch Pompey because I loved live football, but if Leicester played Pompey there was no doubt who I supported. These Man U scum in Leicester are not from Manchester. They are the worst sort of supporters, no imagination whatsoever. They just chose the biggest most successful club they could think of when growing up. They had no real parental guidance. Any in the Leicester end deserve what comes to them. Come on City, thrash the United scum. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 17 September 2014 Share Posted 17 September 2014 Oxford Dictionary: "A person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing" MW: 1. An enthusiastic devotee 2. An ardent admirer or enthusiast Dictionary.com An enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity etc Seriously, I will actually be really happy if you find me a definition of "fan" in any dictionary anywhere that classes attending performances as a prerequisite for fandom. At the most, it is one possible signifier of somebody's attitude towards a "sport, pastime, celebrity etc" - it might be evidence that suggests somebody is a fan - but it is not a defining factor in being one. Again, read the No True Scotsman page from start to finish and then try and make your current argument with a straight face. You are trying to redefine a term to suit your own ideas and biases. I think there is a key part in your post which demonstrates how gravely you misunderstand the relationship between a "fan" and whatever he is a "fan" of. You said: "You wouldn't call yourself friends with someone else you've never met or talked to would you? You have no shared experiences with them so you wouldn't claim to have a relationship with them either. I think this applies to football too." You surely must see how nonsensical this is? They are different relationships and aren't comparable at all. Being a fan requires no active reciprocation from the recipient of your affection whatsoever. "Friends" implies a mutual exchange of affection or whatever emotion chiefly connects the two parties - that's why I don't say I am friends with Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden - I am a fan of his, not a friend of his. I have all the information and "experiences" I need to be able to be "an enthusiastic devotee or admirer" without ever having seen the band play live and without him ever being aware of my existence. I might have heard their music on CDs, online, or on the tele. At which point in this process can I call myself a "fan" and safely avoid being told I am not one by you? Here's the long and short of it - you don't get to tell everybody else what a "fan" is and whether or not they qualify as one. All your bullshit has made me tired, thank you, goodnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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