Stuliasz Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 Low Ratings All Round as City Defeated at Palace http://lcfcratings.wordpress.com Saturday 27 September, 15:00Barclays Premier LeagueSelhurst Park, London Crystal Palace 2Campbell 51′, Jedinak 54′ Leicester City 0 Phil Neville described it as City's "welcome to the Premier League" on Match of the Day, but whether you want to call it a reality check, the bubble bursting or as there was no hiding from the stark contrast against City's performance from last weekend, or the resulting ratings given by the City fans. Esteban Cambiasso received the highest rating with a meagre 5.7 and will be credited with his first LCFC Ratings Man of the Match, but it was a game where nobody could hold their head up high with Crystal Palace winning individual battles all across the field. Yannick Bolasie gave Ritchie de Laet a particularly torrid time resulting in the Belgian receiving the lowest rating of any starter, while the 30 minute cameo of Riyad Mahrez was voted the worst contribution on the day. Danny Simpson didn't rate particularly highly on his debut after Bolasie continued to shine even after the ex-QPR full-back replaced Ritchie de Laet at right back, while Dean Hammond clearly seemed to struggle in a game where he had more time on the ball than off it compared to previous fixtures. Matty James put his case forward to return to the team for Burnley next week after being voted the second best performer from the bench, and his inclusion may well be at the expense of Hammond who has probably had more game time already than many expected him to have this season. Manager Nigel Pearson also fared particularly badly with a low rating that showed what the fans thought about his tactical and team choices against a different kind of opposition to that which City have faced so far. However whether this warrants a 7% drop in overall confidence is questionable. Crystal Palace came in as the second best opposition City have faced this season after Shrewsbury Town, while referee Keith Stroud received an average rating in his first top flight game for over five years. Total Votes : 174 Man of the Match : Esteban Cambiasso* Esteban Cambiasso : 5.70 (SUB) Matty James : 5.58 Kasper Schmeichel : 5.57 Liam Moore : 5.47 Paul Konchesky : 5.39 Wes Morgan : 5.33 (SUB) Danny Simpson : 5.06 Jamie Vardy : 4.80 Leonardo Ulloa : 4.76 Danny Drinkwater : 4.69 David Nugent : 4.51 Dean Hammond : 4.46 Ritchie de Laet : 4.39 (SUB) Riyad Mahrez : 4.34 * Man of the match selected using weighted average based on minutes played. Actual ratings as voted shown above. Manager Performance : 4.78 Opposition Performance : 6.96 Officials Performance (Ref: Keith Stroud) : 5.55 Manager Confidence : 92.26% (-7.33%)Stay: 143 | Go: 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 12 People actually want Pearson gone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 12 People actually want Pearson gone.... Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 12 People actually want Pearson gone.... Surely not. There would be a queue around the corner for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 Stroud worth 5.55? get in the bin; he was no better than our worst player on the day. Worst ref of the season so far by an absolute mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 Stroud worth 5.55? get in the bin; he was no better than our worst player on the day. Worst ref of the season so far by an absolute mile. Errrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 Just because DD is a better player than Nuge and Hammond does not mean he automatically plays better every game. He was so poor on Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisNedry Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 8% of Leicester City fans should have been drowned at birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuliasz Posted 29 September 2014 Author Share Posted 29 September 2014 Stroud worth 5.55? get in the bin; he was no better than our worst player on the day. Worst ref of the season so far by an absolute mile. This is the breakdown if you're interested: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 4 sensational!? !? Wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 29 September 2014 Share Posted 29 September 2014 Didn't think Mahrez was that bad. I think he works better when others around him want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 Can absolutely anyone contribute to this? If so think the 10's for the ref and the 12 wanting Pearson out are probably fans from other clubs (most of them, hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 12 People actually want Pearson gone.... I always thought the "stay or go" poll was based around how Pearson got on in that particular game ie - did NP get his tactics bang on or was it a bad day at the office? I voted go because I don't think we were right on Saturday, doesn't mean I actually want him out! I'd have his bloody children if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 I always thought the "stay or go" poll was based around how Pearson got on in that particular game ie - did NP get his tactics bang on or was it a bad day at the office? I voted go because I don't think we were right on Saturday, doesn't mean I actually want him out! I'd have his bloody children if possible. That's what the manager performance rating's for you numpty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 sheeeeeeeit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1993fox Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 Those match ratings are quite interesting. I'm surprised de Laet, Hammond, and Drinkwater even managed a 4 for the Palace match. And seeing 12 people who actually want Pearson out... Ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 If you are one of the 12 people who want Pearson out because of that one match, shame on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxaholic Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 Didn't think Mahrez was that bad. I think he works better when others around him want to play. chickened out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 12 People actually want Pearson gone.... I've never thought Pearson was above criticism for all the hero worship on here but overall the bloke has done an outstanding job and if pushed I'd back him to do even better because he does learn and he does seem to generate a decent team spirit which is a major factor in getting any kind of success. Tactically I think he - and his staff just as likely - are not always convincing. Our League Cup match was an example. Okay we weren't ever going to field our strongest side but the opposition manager twigged our strengths and weaknesses after 15 minutes and re-organised to give us a good hiding on a scale not unlike the Burton Albion cup match not so long before. Against Palace, again, Warnock took us to the cleaners tactically. We well knew their style and strengths yet we didn't combat either. Pearson is a progressive manager so if he's not sure tactically why not import a tactical mastermind in the same way as we've got a forwards coach and are hitting the target more accurately than most according to statistics. There must be shrewd tacticians out there who aren't necessarily the most inspirational managers. The Palace game gave so many simple insights to what I mean. DeLaet was clearly under the kind of one-against-one pressure he was never going to cope with. As many full-backs might find against such a skillful and nippy opponent. Fair enough. Accept it and do something about it. Either you double up on the guy as so many teams have done against Dyer in the past. Or you stop the supply of passes to the problem player. Or you employ a specialist man-for-man marker like the celebrated Alan Woollett who used to keep even the best players quiet by sticking to them like a limpet. The latter policy seems frowned on these days though I don't know why. But, there are three perfectly sensible choices yet we didn't seem to act decisively enough, thus highlighting the problem of not having enough cover for DeLaet and not being able to deal with a certain kind of threat. Similarly when it comes to free headers in the box I've already mentioned that one way to limit that is to avoid giving away free-kicks and corners. Another is to make sure you have markers who stick to their task. Which means making your presence felt with the attacker. No, a 5 feet 10 inch opponent isn't likely to outjump Peter Crouch but they can make life dreadfully uncomfortable for them by jumping with them in a determined fashion, by holding their ground so the attacker can't get clean contact and by generally being an irritant. We didn't do that because we weren't near the attacker yet someone like Kingy - although never really an aggressive player - would always be around and was often the man to clear danger in the past. You only have to look at our personnel against Palace to see we didn't have enough aerial presence. After Moore and Morgan we're not the best in the air as a back four and certainly we had nothing to offer from central midfield...glaring indication of how much King was missed and will inevitably be missed given the current first choices. Next you've got the Ulloa situation. Apart from Vardy against United he's been our only dangerman up front. The guy clearly thrives on crosses but we hardly gave him any. Why? Because DeLaet was never going to get the chance having quite enough to cope with and Schlupp wasn't playing either. We just snookered outselves. Pearson's problem of course is that he can't play all our theoretically best players and properly balance the team. But they're the decisions he's paid to make and paid to get right - he of his lieutenants. He could of course play three at the front and a three man attack of Ulloa, Vardy and either King or Nugent would always pose a threat. But not without supply and that would mean playing three at the back and four in midfield which is quite possibly beyond us unless Nugent was the third striker and King the supplementary centre-back when we're under pressure. The last paragraph is thinking aloud - as if i were facing the problem - but mostly just trying to indicate how you have to balance the various requirements rather than just picking the best paid or most seemingly talented players. I'm not anti-Cambiasso because the guy has some super qualities. But you can't be leaving runners on the edge of our box. I've criticised Kingy for it in the past and the same applies to the Argentinian. You have to track the runners in your segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 I've never thought Pearson was above criticism for all the hero worship on here but overall the bloke has done an outstanding job and if pushed I'd back him to do even better because he does learn and he does seem to generate a decent team spirit which is a major factor in getting any kind of success. Tactically I think he - and his staff just as likely - are not always convincing. Our League Cup match was an example. Okay we weren't ever going to field our strongest side but the opposition manager twigged our strengths and weaknesses after 15 minutes and re-organised to give us a good hiding on a scale not unlike the Burton Albion cup match not so long before. Against Palace, again, Warnock took us to the cleaners tactically. We well knew their style and strengths yet we didn't combat either. Pearson is a progressive manager so if he's not sure tactically why not import a tactical mastermind in the same way as we've got a forwards coach and are hitting the target more accurately than most according to statistics. There must be shrewd tacticians out there who aren't necessarily the most inspirational managers. The Palace game gave so many simple insights to what I mean. DeLaet was clearly under the kind of one-against-one pressure he was never going to cope with. As many full-backs might find against such a skillful and nippy opponent. Fair enough. Accept it and do something about it. Either you double up on the guy as so many teams have done against Dyer in the past. Or you stop the supply of passes to the problem player. Or you employ a specialist man-for-man marker like the celebrated Alan Woollett who used to keep even the best players quiet by sticking to them like a limpet. The latter policy seems frowned on these days though I don't know why. But, there are three perfectly sensible choices yet we didn't seem to act decisively enough, thus highlighting the problem of not having enough cover for DeLaet and not being able to deal with a certain kind of threat. Similarly when it comes to free headers in the box I've already mentioned that one way to limit that is to avoid giving away free-kicks and corners. Another is to make sure you have markers who stick to their task. Which means making your presence felt with the attacker. No, a 5 feet 10 inch opponent isn't likely to outjump Peter Crouch but they can make life dreadfully uncomfortable for them by jumping with them in a determined fashion, by holding their ground so the attacker can't get clean contact and by generally being an irritant. We didn't do that because we weren't near the attacker yet someone like Kingy - although never really an aggressive player - would always be around and was often the man to clear danger in the past. You only have to look at our personnel against Palace to see we didn't have enough aerial presence. After Moore and Morgan we're not the best in the air as a back four and certainly we had nothing to offer from central midfield...glaring indication of how much King was missed and will inevitably be missed given the current first choices. Next you've got the Ulloa situation. Apart from Vardy against United he's been our only dangerman up front. The guy clearly thrives on crosses but we hardly gave him any. Why? Because DeLaet was never going to get the chance having quite enough to cope with and Schlupp wasn't playing either. We just snookered outselves. Pearson's problem of course is that he can't play all our theoretically best players and properly balance the team. But they're the decisions he's paid to make and paid to get right - he of his lieutenants. He could of course play three at the front and a three man attack of Ulloa, Vardy and either King or Nugent would always pose a threat. But not without supply and that would mean playing three at the back and four in midfield which is quite possibly beyond us unless Nugent was the third striker and King the supplementary centre-back when we're under pressure. The last paragraph is thinking aloud - as if i were facing the problem - but mostly just trying to indicate how you have to balance the various requirements rather than just picking the best paid or most seemingly talented players. I'm not anti-Cambiasso because the guy has some super qualities. But you can't be leaving runners on the edge of our box. I've criticised Kingy for it in the past and the same applies to the Argentinian. You have to track the runners in your segment. Another great post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesolo Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 12 people want Pearson out after 1 loss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesolo Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 Did anyone want Pearson out in the previous 5 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 Did anyone want Pearson out in the previous 5 games? Yes. After the chelsea game I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesolo Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 Yes. After the chelsea game I did. I don't believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 30 September 2014 Share Posted 30 September 2014 I've always wanted Pearson out so we can finally get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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