DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Let's face it, at least this Presidency will be interesting to watch. For one, Trump has promised a lot of things that don't normally fit within the Republican Party's thinking - there is massive 'big state proposals' in his economic plans for example. And how would many American's actually feel if the US did infact start to cosy up to the old enemy Russia? Surely Trump would need to somehow sell this as keeping your friends close and your foes even closer? Secondly, there's pressure on this movement towards protectionism and personal country gain over the collective of nations (that's apparent across the globe) to now work for the people that voted for it. If it doesn't then what then? Apathy or revolt? Thirdy - this Presidency will no doubt provide comedy gold for satirists in the same way as the George W Bush administration did. The other potential these events (Trump, Brexit, successive Tory governments and potentially Le Penn in the future) have is creating a wider space for a true left alternative. There's already signs of this happening with Sanders and Corbyn, it's just that what they've failed to do is simplify and broaden the appeal of their message. Finally, a couple of things I wouldn't be surprised to see during the term; • Political scandal involving one of Trumps firms receiving public funds... i.e. Trump construction gains the contract for 'the wall' (although Mexico is paying for that apparently) • An assananation attempt Fun times ahead certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzinderFox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: Yeah, because the "right" really didn't flip out at the idea of a black President and what is being discussed re Trump now wasn't said by them too when Obama was in office. Attempting to claim some kind of moral high ground is laughable. tbf I don't think the right were flipping out because he was black, in the same way that the right weren't flipping out this time because Clinton has a vagina. Too simplistic mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 31 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said: Yeah, I used Trump's estimations!! But if we can build HS2, they can build a wall. Thats a big 'IF' given that comparison. Does the wall go through many rich Ruplican supporters gardens do we know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 8 minutes ago, WarehamFox said: Also shows who's supporters are more normal, law abiding citizens. The left don't have it their way and throw dolls out the pram. The Republicans lost the last two elections to the first black president and he's still alive! Shock horror. Hilarious how many people are claiming this as a defeat for 'the left'. Hilary Clinton isn't left wing. Many of the reasons that led people to vote for Trump (and brexit) would traditionally be classed as left wing. It's easy to position yourself against what your supporters class as left and right, but not so easy to pin down what they actually mean. May we live in interesting times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 1 minute ago, GazzinderFox said: tbf I don't think the right were flipping out because he was black, in the same way that the right weren't flipping out this time because Clinton has a vagina. Too simplistic mate. Maybe, maybe not. Identity politics isn't limited to one side. I just took issue with the ridiculous assertion that the "right" can somehow claim some kind of moral high ground on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 4 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said: tbf I don't think the right were flipping out because he was black, in the same way that the right weren't flipping out this time because Clinton has a vagina. Too simplistic mate. Do we have any proof of this or is it more FBI sponsored propaganda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 The other thing that should be considered... this could be the start of a Trump family dinisty in political office. Ivanka to be the first female President, for the Republican Party - I know, "wow!" but I can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzinderFox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 4 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Maybe, maybe not. Identity politics isn't limited to one side. I just took issue with the ridiculous assertion that the "right" can somehow claim some kind of moral high ground on this one. This is politics in 2016 dude. There is no moral high ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzinderFox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 3 minutes ago, bovril said: Do we have any proof of this or is it more FBI sponsored propaganda? I was think the same thing as I was typing this mate. All the evidence points to the contrary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 I'm still waiting to see if my friend's American father in law's assertion that Obama is an Italian communist plant called Barry Montero holds any water. I think he may be on to something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treer Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 At the end of a day, perhaps the whole world has dodged a bullet. Would it really be in the best interest for the world's strongest country, to be led by a woman who turns a blind eye to her husband being caught satisfying himself with a bimbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 11 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said: tbf I don't think the right were flipping out because he was black, in the same way that the right weren't flipping out this time because Clinton has a vagina. Too simplistic mate. I dispute that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 3 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said: This is politics in 2016 dude. There is no moral high ground. Absolutely. Perhaps our mutual friend from Wareham should consider that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 In his first move as President, Donald Trump bans all episodes of Speedy Gonzales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 5 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: I dispute that!! Isn't that where Bill keeps his cigars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 1 minute ago, Parafox said: Isn't that where Bill keeps his cigars? Bill is definitely sucking on something in that area!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiffToff88 Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Is America great again yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
separator Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Anyone have the Leicester / Brexit / Trump accumulator? Fiver would have paid £15M apparently http://uncova.com/the-insane-odds-on-leicester-brexit--trump-all-happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 4 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said: Is America great again yet? America is grating again. That chicken parm won't cook itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 26 minutes ago, WarehamFox said: Also shows who's supporters are more normal, law abiding citizens. The left don't have it their way and throw dolls out the pram. The Republicans lost the last two elections to the first black president and he's still alive! Shock horror. You should be more precise. The Democrats are also right-wing or on the right side of the political spectrum, albeit less extremist than the Republicans. Calling them "left" or lefties is a smack in the face for all things social (democratic) concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 As someone who is right leaning and living in America, I have mixed feelings. I find Trump thoroughly detestable as a person yet I feel a republican house and senate and also president would represent me more. A lot of my wife's family who live over here and voted said that they were not voting for Trump, they were seeing it as a vote against Hilary and a vote against Obamacare. I respect that more than someone walking around with a trump hat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ousefox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 This is interesting too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Bet so-called Islamic State are quite pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcarr21 Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 37 minutes ago, bovril said: Do we have any proof of this or is it more FBI sponsored propaganda? It was proved when they found a Snuke up her Snizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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