Webbo Posted 5 February 2017 Share Posted 5 February 2017 1 minute ago, bovril said: Fair enough. Ideally I would like the state to interfere as little as possible in an individual's choices, be it religion, lifestyle choices or moving from country to country. But I'm also pragmatic enough to realise that those things might need some control or at least some kind of brake. I'd agree with that. I'm not blaming anyone on here, it's the survey that's placing people where they are. It just doesn't make much sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 5 February 2017 Share Posted 5 February 2017 Just now, bovril said: Fair enough. Ideally I would like the state to interfere as little as possible in an individual's choices, be it religion, lifestyle choices or moving from country to country. But I'm also pragmatic enough to realise that those things might need some control or at least some kind of brake. This. Long term issues (environmental and energy policy spring to mind) in particular. We're hardwired to be predisposed to make short term decisions and that's not always the best thing for the future in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 5 February 2017 Share Posted 5 February 2017 15 minutes ago, Webbo said: If you want to regulate the press you're not libertarian. If you want to control how people earn there living and how much they earn, as long as they're not harming anyone, you're not libertarian. I'd hardly call expecting newspapers to be accountable for their lies and espionage techniques authoritarianism (had I supplied a view on what factual/op ed content the papers can and can't print you would have a point but I shied away from doing so) and my views on economic control are why I measured where I did on the left/right axis as explained in the definition of the graph. I think you've misinterpreted the use of the axes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 5 February 2017 Share Posted 5 February 2017 You have to be pretty disciplined to forever be an ideological socialist / libertarian / fascist (tbf I'm not sure you can be a pragmatic fascist). Humans react to and are shaped by personal experiences, my own politics have changed a lot in the last ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 6 February 2017 Share Posted 6 February 2017 8 hours ago, Webbo said: If you want to regulate the press you're not libertarian. If you want to control how people earn there living and how much they earn, as long as they're not harming anyone, you're not libertarian. Absolute nonsense. Regulation of the press in terms of stopping them from lying with impunity and burying corrections in small print where no one will see is not authoritarian, we're not talking about turning them into state mouthpieces, more about expecting them to uphold journalistic ethics. As for your other comment about how can you be politically correct, when did you have to use racial slurs to be socially liberal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 6 February 2017 Share Posted 6 February 2017 1 minute ago, The Doctor said: Absolute nonsense. Regulation of the press in terms of stopping them from lying with impunity and burying corrections in small print where no one will see is not authoritarian, we're not talking about turning them into state mouthpieces, more about expecting them to uphold journalistic ethics. As for your other comment about how can you be politically correct, when did you have to use racial slurs to be socially liberal? Who decides what's a lie? Also libertarian isn't necessarily the same as socially liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 6 February 2017 Share Posted 6 February 2017 45 minutes ago, Webbo said: Who decides what's a lie? Also libertarian isn't necessarily the same as socially liberal. a journalists duty is to the truth, if they're reporting speculation as fact they're lying. Well the y-axis is about how socially liberal you are, hence why they ask about gay marriage, same-sex adoption and the war on drugs, so you're at this point moaning the makers of an online quiz don't use your terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 6 February 2017 Share Posted 6 February 2017 I expected to be left leaning and Libertarian but not THAT left leaning and Libertarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benguin Posted 6 February 2017 Share Posted 6 February 2017 On 4 February 2017 at 09:40, davieG said: I seem to remember a topic where you could answer questions and it worked out were you fitted on that graph. Couldn't find the topic but I think this is the test. https://www.politicalcompass.org/test or this one http://politicaltest.net/en I think this is the topic = https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/85919-leftie-rightieor-is-it-lefty-righty-not-sure-tbh/ I'm somewhere in between Hitler and Thatcher on that compass. The questions were not adequate in my opinion though, there were too many, for want of a better word, stereotypes of right wing/left wing. I suppose that has to be the case though. i don't agree with the whole political compass thing though. Take each issue free of bias and critically evaluate the differing opinions and research the facts before deciding where you fit rather than saying "well I agree that women should have the right to choose what they do with their bodies so I definitely agree that we should accept any one coming to our country." They are completely different issues, just because all your pro choice pals are liberal on immigration doesn't mean you will be if you critically think about it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 Bloody hell does this make me a whinging leftie? I like Brexit,Trump ,Thatcher,dislike immigration and think vegitarians should be burnt at the stake or with a steak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 9 minutes ago, Claridge said: Bloody hell does this make me a whinging leftie? I like Brexit,Trump ,Thatcher,dislike immigration and think vegitarians should be burnt at the stake or with a steak. Pinko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 I take this quiz semi-frequently and this is the furthest left I've ever got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 1 hour ago, Wookie said: I take this quiz semi-frequently and this is the furthest left I've ever got I'm doing it again when Derby knock us out, see if anger and depression changes my results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 1 hour ago, Webbo said: Pinko I was hoping that someone like Buce would reassure me,that I'm a thick right winger who didn't know what I was voting for. I can't be a leftie I just can't be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 1 hour ago, Wookie said: I take this quiz semi-frequently and this is the furthest left I've ever got Right in the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzinderFox Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 About where I thought I'd be to be fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Mark_w said: If you're in the bottom left green bit you're automatically a vegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charl91 Posted 7 February 2017 Share Posted 7 February 2017 https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-5.25&soc=-3.79 Seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hundreds Posted 10 February 2017 Share Posted 10 February 2017 But have no one to vote for at the next GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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