Thracian Posted 22 March 2017 Share Posted 22 March 2017 2 hours ago, Bablemikey said: I don't know what "space flesh" is but it sounds so cool!!! Haha - corrected now, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxonMaui Posted 23 March 2017 Share Posted 23 March 2017 I see a lot of "tinkerers"on this thread. Have we not learned from the first 2/3 of this season. Or is it the ghost of Claudio ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn9013 Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Thought I'd bump this up now seeing as the international break is over and we look forward to Saturday. Im not a fan of the international breaks at all, I just can't seem to get interested in England anymore. But it was great to see Vardy get a goal, hopefully he can use the confidence for a good performance on Saturday. Personally I predict a score draw on Saturday, but I hope I'm wrong and we make it 4/4 in the league. Would pretty much secure our top flight status too I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Thank god really football is back after the boring week of internationals! Hopefully, all the boys come back fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpendenfox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 into the last phase of the season, and the beach comes into play - one of my favourite footballing clichés. Might Stoke's players already be purchasing the factor 30, searching the back of the cupboard for the flips flops and learning the Spanish for 'three beers please mateh'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 I hope loads of the stoke players come back from the break with injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPinCarolina Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 It looks like a few of our non-capped players spent the week off skittering around the globe (cough Simpson cough) - hopefully they come back refreshed and ready to put a shift in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 11 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: It looks like a few of our non-capped players spent the week off skittering around the globe (cough Simpson cough) - hopefully they come back refreshed and ready to put a shift in. Simpson must really really love Dubai, just finished having a holiday there, came back played 2 games, and went back there for another holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Just read in the mercury that Japan are playing Thailand in Tokyo on Tuesday if shinji starts i would personally rest him and start him against Sunderland on Tuesday and start big slim as he hasn't had a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPinCarolina Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 30 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Just read in the mercury that Japan are playing Thailand in Tokyo on Tuesday if shinji starts i would personally rest him and start him against Sunderland on Tuesday and start big slim as he hasn't had a game. As much as I think we need Shinji in the Starting XI to play at our best, it could be a good chance for Silmani. We can adjust our play accordingly, and if Albrighton continues his run of form, the crosses should be there for Silmani to pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 3 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: As much as I think we need Shinji in the Starting XI to play at our best, it could be a good chance for Silmani. We can adjust our play accordingly, and if Albrighton continues his run of form, the crosses should be there for Silmani to pick up. I'm desperate for Slimani and Vardy to form a partnership. It would be great having our two top goal scoring threats playing alongside eachother. I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt and put the last few times they played together, down to Vardy and the team in general, being woefully out of form. If Slimani can somehow drop deeper and do the job of linking the midfield and attack, that Okazaki does so well, then get in the box when we need him, it could work! Wishful thinking I'm sure but I'd like to see it tried once or twice more before we give up on it completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 1 hour ago, brucey said: Simpson must really really earn too much money just finished having a holiday , came back played 2 games, and went back for another holiday Fixed. I am joking. Can do what the **** he likes if we keep winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 10 hours ago, STUHILL said: I'm desperate for Slimani and Vardy to form a partnership. It would be great having our two top goal scoring threats playing alongside eachother. I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt and put the last few times they played together, down to Vardy and the team in general, being woefully out of form. If Slimani can somehow drop deeper and do the job of linking the midfield and attack, that Okazaki does so well, then get in the box when we need him, it could work! Wishful thinking I'm sure but I'd like to see it tried once or twice more before we give up on it completely. Slimani will never be a No10, it's a pity we couldn't ship him off to China for £40m. Slimani and Vardy will never form a good partnership, they both want to occupy the same space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 On 27/03/2017 at 11:23, Gerard said: Slimani will never be a No10, it's a pity we couldn't ship him off to China for £40m. Slimani and Vardy will never form a good partnership, they both want to occupy the same space. One thing that really annoys me about this forum is when people try to pass of opinion as fact. Both Steve Walsh and Claudio Ranieri seemed to think they could form a partnership and with all due respect there opinion on football matters holds slightly more water than your so called facts. Also now this really is a fact Vardy and Slim have started 13 games together for city in the league and Europe and we have won 6 of them not bad considering all of them were under claudio and in one of them vardy got sent of in the first half. Now i am not saying 100% that they can form a good partnership but i am saying that you can't claim with certainty that they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 1 minute ago, The whole world smiles said: One thing that really annoys me about this forum is when people try to pass of opinion as fact. Both Steve Walsh and Claudio Ranieri seemed to think they could and with all due respect there opinion holds slightly more water than your so called facts. Also now this really is a fact Vardy and Slim have started 13 games together for city in the league and Europe and we have won 6 of them not bad considering all of them were under claudio and in one of them vardy got sent of in the first half. Now i am not saying 100% that they can form a good partnership but i am saying that you can't claim with certainty that they can't. I thought it was obvious it was an opinion rather than a fact. Plutonium is heavier than lithium is a fact. Apples are tastier than oranges is an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 1 minute ago, The whole world smiles said: One thing that really annoys me about this forum is when people try to pass of opinion as fact. Both Steve Walsh and Claudio Ranieri seemed to think they could and with all due respect there opinion holds slightly more water than your so called facts. Also now this really is a fact Vardy and Slim have started 13 games together for city in the league and Europe and we have won 6 of them not bad considering all of them were under claudio and in one of them vardy got sent of in the first half. Now i am not saying 100% that they can form a good partnership but i am saying that you can't claim with certainty that they can't. I think the evidence does learn towards the fact they can't, as mentioned in the previous post, neither of them can play in a no.10 sort of role, Slim, doesn't work hard enough, hasn't got the touch or the vision to play it, and Vardy lacks the football intelligence to play there, we all know they both want to play on the last man, Vardy to get in behind and Slim so he can fight for the ball. Still think this signing was based on how Pearson wanted to play, hence we had been watching him for so long, he always liked the option of a Ulloa or Howard, claudio never really showed that was in his way of thinking as such and we don't get the ball wide enough, quickly enough to get lots of crosses in, Mahrez slows play down and albrighton has to cut back on his wrong foot, I'd like to see Slim succeed here, but I think if we can sell him back to Portugal or to China for any sort of fee I'd be tempted to let him go, of course that may change if a new manager comes in. Think Slim, Leo, Gray, Musa, Mendy, all fall into the same bracket, does a new man if he comes in, give them another chance, if we don't see much of them between now and the end of the season and Shakey stays, I think their time may well be up, we could see a huge overall in the summer, with the need to start rebuilding the defence as well. Anyway, here's hoping to 3 points on sat, and 4 from 6 at least over the next 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 17 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: One thing that really annoys me about this forum is when people try to pass of opinion as fact. Both Steve Walsh and Claudio Ranieri seemed to think they could form a partnership and with all due respect there opinion on football matters holds slightly more water than your so called facts. Also now this really is a fact Vardy and Slim have started 13 games together for city in the league and Europe and we have won 6 of them not bad considering all of them were under claudio and in one of them vardy got sent of in the first half. Now i am not saying 100% that they can form a good partnership but i am saying that you can't claim with certainty that they can't. Some partnerships take time to evolve. I don't mean a manager should defy the evidence of his eyes over a long period but sometimes patience pays and players can gel and get to understand the style of a partner they didn't instantly connect with...especially if there's a language problem. Another factor is the marking aspect. Vardy/Slimani represent a potent pair of specialist goalscorers which no opponent could afford to take likely. Whereas Shinji has a different strength and is not really a particular goalscoring threat. More a man to avoid for his tenaciousness than to need marking for his shooting ability. It means we have options but I'm still concerned that if we wish to play the high pressing game which has proved so successful for us, there's no alternative to Shinji for doing that when he runs out of gas unless we use Vardy and you can't do that for 90 minutes. Albrighton perhaps fits the bill best. Indeed he's impressed me with his adaptability and strikes me as an Andy King type in that he's quite prepared to play whatever role the manager asks for and is, in that way, the perfect professional. He's doesn't strike me as being as strong or tenacious as Shinji but he's persistent, careful and stands on his feet more consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 On 27/03/2017 at 12:45, Gerard said: I thought it was obvious it was an opinion rather than a fact. Plutonium is heavier than lithium is a fact. Apples are tastier than oranges is an opinion. Now I don't know anything about Plutonium or Lithium but i do know the meaning of the word "never" and when you claim something will never happen you are trying to give opinion in the form of a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 Just now, The whole world smiles said: Now I don't know anything about Plutonium or Lithium but i do know the meaning of the word "never" and when you claim something will never happen you are trying to give opinion in the form of a fact. Well I could have added "IMO" at the end of that but I thought talking about a subject like a footballer's ability then it's all opinion as in there is no definitive answer. Now my personal bugbear is people writing "end of" on an opinion. eg, Messi is better than Maradona, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 On 27/03/2017 at 14:01, Gerard said: Well I could have added "IMO" at the end of that but I thought talking about a subject like a footballer's ability then it's all opinion as in there is no definitive answer. Now my personal bugbear is people writing "end of" on an opinion. eg, Messi is better than Maradona, end of. Suppose so maybe i just had a bit of a cob on because it's Monday morning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0901 Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 If it ain't broke... Kasper Simmo Huth Wes Fuchs Mahrez Ndidi Drinky Albrighton The Shinj Vards Up the lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 2 hours ago, Bayfox said: I think the evidence does learn towards the fact they can't, as mentioned in the previous post, neither of them can play in a no.10 sort of role, Slim, doesn't work hard enough, hasn't got the touch or the vision to play it, and Vardy lacks the football intelligence to play there, we all know they both want to play on the last man, Vardy to get in behind and Slim so he can fight for the ball. Still think this signing was based on how Pearson wanted to play, hence we had been watching him for so long, he always liked the option of a Ulloa or Howard, claudio never really showed that was in his way of thinking as such and we don't get the ball wide enough, quickly enough to get lots of crosses in, Mahrez slows play down and albrighton has to cut back on his wrong foot, I'd like to see Slim succeed here, but I think if we can sell him back to Portugal or to China for any sort of fee I'd be tempted to let him go, of course that may change if a new manager comes in. Think Slim, Leo, Gray, Musa, Mendy, all fall into the same bracket, does a new man if he comes in, give them another chance, if we don't see much of them between now and the end of the season and Shakey stays, I think their time may well be up, we could see a huge overall in the summer, with the need to start rebuilding the defence as well. Anyway, here's hoping to 3 points on sat, and 4 from 6 at least over the next 2 games. 'Vardy lacks the football intelligence' The last thing I would want is Vardy playing the number 10 role. It would be totally pointless and negate the thing he is best at, namely being too quick for defenders and scoring goals. So we can agree on that he is not that kind of player. I think you do him a disservice there however; just because he's a chav, it doesn't mean he is thick, and whilst he can be a bit of a hot head I've not really seen anything to suggest he in anyway lacks football intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 4 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: 'Vardy lacks the football intelligence' The last thing I would want is Vardy playing the number 10 role. It would be totally pointless and negate the thing he is best at, namely being too quick for defenders and scoring goals. So we can agree on that he is not that kind of player. I think you do him a disservice there however; just because he's a chav, it doesn't mean he is thick, and whilst he can be a bit of a hot head I've not really seen anything to suggest he in anyway lacks football intelligence. I never said he was thick, there's a difference between mental acumen and football intelligence tho, we were talking about partnerships, Vardy and Slim are both number 9s really, different styles but out and out strikers all the same. Can you see Vardy really ever being able to adapt his game to play any other way? unless once his legs go, he manages to become a lineker style goal hanger and poacher and at times his finishing isn't at that level. I can't see him becoming a teddy sheringham type, and he isn't going to go play in midfield and starting picking wonder passes, that's all i meant from the intelligence point of view, he his very good at what he does, playing on the last man, closing down, working hard, and running away from players and he at least stays onside more than dj or beckford, but i just wouldn't have him up there in terms of someone like a bruno berner, gary mac, neil lennon etc, players that can read the game. So he is limited in terms of what he can offer, hence the partnership thing, he has to be the 9 and therefore doesn't offer a lot past that, he needs to be the main man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 Vardy played pretty well next to Ulloa two years ago during the great escape, so it's not like Vardy needs a true #10. It might take some time for Vardy and Slimani to build a partnership, but right now is the right time to give it a try. Shinji is going to be fatigued and jet lagged, and we got a ton of fixtures coming up. Slimani has been rested, and is probably itching to get out there. We're far enough outside the relegation zone to have some breathing room, so it's not like this game is a must win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 27 March 2017 Share Posted 27 March 2017 If Shinji is away till Thursday then we will have to start with Slimani. Regarding Vardy and "football intelligence" I think we are paying him a huge discredit. It's a different term to intelligence and is surely a measure of decision making on the pitch. I think Vardy is actually very clever. He makes great runs and clever assists. Look at his performance against Man City, specifically his third goal for his quick thinking and positional awareness. Shakespeare has notably changed it so that Vardy plays behind Slimani when they are on the pitch together. It's definitely not Vardy's best position but he's not been bad at it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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