Joefox Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 This guy wanted Moyes to see out his contract at Utd. He's an idiot. football is a results business always has been always will be. I don't really buy into this notion of giving managers time anyway. How much time is enough? Moyes had plenty of time he was just shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 I agree some sackings are very harsh. However, the club surely has the right to decide. As with any employee, the company reserves the right to terminate a contract. That's life, why should football managers be except? Where there are major breakdowns between the board and manager, or a Sam Allardyce-esque scandal off the pitch, it's ridiculous to suggest they then are immune to still do whatever the hell they want! Used to rate Neville as a pundit but he really does talk some dross these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Stupid idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Dontlie Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Neville, Carragher and Owen, The Three Stooges of punditry The picture says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 I get that it's bad that managers get all the blame but this is just beyond daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 "Managers being sacked mid season should be banned" says manager sacked mid season. in other news turkeys have said Christmas should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestan Pance Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Wouldn't it have been quicker and easier for him just to say "I'm incredibly envious of what Leicester achieved and would like to see them relegated"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandFox Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Says the guy who was both hired and fired during the same season. You can't back under performers, manager included. He has experience being an under-performing manager. My gosh, this guy has absolutely no self-awareness. As much I would have rather binned our entire XI a month ago, there are already rules preventing us from doing that. The last thing I want is more rigidity in what we can do to save ourselves from ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Surely it's unworkable anyway? An extreme example but imagine Mourinho falling out with the Man Utd board and deciding to play the U16's all season and deliberately getting them relegated and no one was allowed to stop him. Surely a company has the legal right to relieve someone of their duties when they see fit if they offer compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkidsFox Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Seems that some pundits can't accept the decision to get rid of Ranieri was the correct one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joefox Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 17 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said: Wouldn't it have been quicker and easier for him just to say "I'm incredibly envious of what Leicester achieved and would like to see them relegated"? Everyone just wanted us to take our little fairy tale and go on back down to the championship where we belong and reminisce about it for the next 100 years. They didn't figure that our owners actually had the bottle to make unpopular decisions in the interests of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 No coincidence that he lost 9 from 9 and got sacked because he was fvcking useless and refused to even learn the language and then starts to dream up the crazy idea that managers can only be replaced at the end of the season. Good job Valencia got rid or they would be already relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 20 March 2017 Share Posted 20 March 2017 Managers will still be given time in football if they are getting a good points return. For instance, Mark Hughes has been the manager at Stoke for nearly four years now, which is a decent time in the modern game. He hasn't been sacked because they've been steady under his stewardship every season. Also, would it mean that managers aren't allowed to resign midway through a season? You can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxing Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 I thought Phil was meant to be the dumb one! . clubs that are struggling should have the ability to change things. at the end of the day staying in the Premier League means millions to clubs, so they will do anything to stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLothianFox Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 I am sure that clubs would find a way round this, such as putting the manager on gardening leave for the rest of the season, then sack him. The assistant would be able to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey54 Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 A ban on pundits making stupid suggestions would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 14 hours ago, BenTheFox said: Managers will still be given time in football if they are getting a good points return. For instance, Mark Hughes has been the manager at Stoke for nearly four years now, which is a decent time in the modern game. He hasn't been sacked because they've been steady under his stewardship every season. Also, would it mean that managers aren't allowed to resign midway through a season? You can't have it both ways. I hadn't realised that Stoke have only had 2 managers in 11 years. That's impressive. That's stability personified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman Blessed It Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 15 hours ago, SkidsFox said: Seems that some pundits can't accept the decision to get rid of Ranieri was the correct one. Get the feeling a lot of it is to gain viewer's approval, perhaps in search of being considered more switched on than their colleagues. Not that it matters, but it does make for hard viewing when they influence the entire country into believing that we're a callous, heartless club. When CR got sacked there were nowhere near enough reports on what we, the fans wanted or thought about the situation. Instead, we got told we were a disgusting football club by Owen, Savage and Carragher?! Our owners were reported to be savages, disregarding all the charitable work they've done here, how they basically saved us and kept faith in a number of managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 1 hour ago, Koke said: I hadn't realised that Stoke have only had 2 managers in 11 years. That's impressive. That's stability personified. Very commendable. They're a good model for us. They've become a very competitive premier league club and have managed to reinvent themselves in that time.Coming back to it though, those two managers both did really well for them. Let's face it, if Ranieri had us even in the position that we're in now then he'd still be in a job. Longevity still exists, it's just based on performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 Utter Tosh Neville.....let's kill football altogether for the paying punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 21 March 2017 Share Posted 21 March 2017 Player that played his whole careers under one manager, and arguably the greatest manager in British football history. Never experienced a struggling dressing room, one where the players know the manager is getting it wrong. Yeah top bloke to talk about who should and shouldn't be sacked. O would love to hear the thoughts of players who have experienced sacking and successful managers on this not a pillock whom has no idea of the reality of a struggling team. (Unless you count his own managerial experience, where he was rightfully sacked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 22 March 2017 Share Posted 22 March 2017 10 hours ago, Bossman Blessed It said: Get the feeling a lot of it is to gain viewer's approval, perhaps in search of being considered more switched on than their colleagues. Not that it matters, but it does make for hard viewing when they influence the entire country into believing that we're a callous, heartless club. When CR got sacked there were nowhere near enough reports on what we, the fans wanted or thought about the situation. Instead, we got told we were a disgusting football club by Owen, Savage and Carragher?! Our owners were reported to be savages, disregarding all the charitable work they've done here, how they basically saved us and kept faith in a number of managers. When Ranieri got sacked there wasn't any reports on what we thought because they were too wrapped up in their faux rage, believing that the pundits and outsiders ranting represented the views of us supporters, you had cvnts like paddy power with their hurst and mourinho sticking their ore in. They completely negated to look at what was happening on the pitch, to ask the opinion of match attending supporters they were too wrapped up in their own 'sorrow'. So much so that they all waited eagerly at the liverpool game for us to turn on the owners and team, but as supporters we showed our class, backed the team, manager and owners hugely before a great show of appreciation for Ranieri. To ban sacking managers is a ridiculous idea thought up by failures to protect themselves from their next **** up, and will condemn teams to relegation as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 22 March 2017 Share Posted 22 March 2017 This is also a one way thing for them, how about going further, managers have to remain for the duration of their contract then, so if they do well and that big club comes looking they have to wait until his contract expires in another two years, wonder if they'd be up for that. It would have spared us peter ****ing taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGBFitness Posted 22 March 2017 Share Posted 22 March 2017 I'm not saying he is right but I can see why maybe the LMA would back this. This would stop the likes of Leeds in previous seasons, Forest, Derby and co hiring and firing at free will. Some managers aren't given enough time to be able to get their ideas across, there was plenty who wanted Pearson out during the Great Escape season. There is too many factors involved why it wouldn't work; performance related, failed objectives, short term contract etc Looking on the flip side it could work having some sort of hiring window rather than a sacking window? Coaching opportunities at the elite level is rare and some coaches aren't given the opportunity to progress. Maybe clubs should be allowed to sack a manager when they like but are only allowed to sign a manager during the player transfer window - this will allow coaches within the club the opportunity to take over first team duties and showcase their skills, similar to the situation currently with Shakespeare and maybe make some club owners more considerate with their appointments/ irrational decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 22 March 2017 Share Posted 22 March 2017 A former football manager who was sacked from his one and only job supports the idea of clubs not being allowed to sack their manager half way through the season. What a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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