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  1. 18 points
    These last 48 hours have just shown what a sorry state British politics has become. At the centre of it all a man who has generally shown contempt for the intellect of the British public. Sling a few slogans around, tug a few heart strings re. the NHS, play on people’s fears about immigration and you really can “get Brexit done”. A man who’s genius is to spoon-fed political issues to the masses and revel in it when they gulp it down (“take back control” and a deal being “oven ready”). It’s no surprise that a man who you hold up as some kind of heroic figure - and vindicate by being influenceable enough to prove right in the referendum and the election - then feels he is somehow different to you, to us and to the rules that he has no doubt influenced for the rest of the country to follow. That he would, when bang to rights, feel completely untouchable that he feels no need to even come close to an apology. The most depressing thing is seeing the dark arts kick back into play. Everyone talks about Dominic Cummings on Twitter when the story first breaks yet no ‘Dominic Cummings’ trending on Twitter? An absent Prime Minister shunting out his transport secretary to front the music. MPs simultaneously executing a PR campaign with those same tones (“this is about a 4 year old child” and “what would any reasonable parent do?”) - you only have to read this thread to see that same old Brexit target audience taking these lines, gulping them down and going on to do his bidding by making the discussion about them. Ever feel like you’re being played? It’s now in vogue for a media - whose job it is to scrutinise, to find out about these types of misdemeanours and shine a light on them - to either be called out for doing their job and their profession, which is essential to a functioning democracy, questioned. On the other side of the coin you have the BBC’s Political Editor essentially doing the government’s dirty work for them. When you throw out the term ‘fake news’, do you ever think about the man (Trump) who originally popularised that term? And why it might be advantageous for an inept or unscrupulous government to have you spouting it on their behalf? It’s all just a sorry mess right now. The ineffective leadership, the dirty campaigns of lies and deceit, the divisions in our society by those who fell neatly into line in making the whole Brexit discussion so toxic. In an era of nationalistic tone and British exceptionalism, is there really anything to be proud about in British politics right now?
  2. 17 points
    would like to once again ask why you are defending him? no other tory has yet to come up with a reason other than because he's a tory. you don't actually have to defend him, you know? you can take a step back and look at the developments of the last 48 hours and like 99% of the rest of the country, you can think what an absolute bellend. what would it take him and the rest of his pals to do for you to not defend him? like fair play, boris johnson is going to defend him because he owes him this chapter of his career. you owe him absolutely fu ck all? he is actively taking the piss out of you and you are defending him?
  3. 16 points
    ‘Faux outrage’ - as I’ve said elsewhere I’ve had to leave my recently widowed Dad off on his own for numerous weeks. Hearing a bloke of 60 get mentally shot every few days has been probably in my lowest moments of my life. Couldn’t see him, fifty miles away. There are countless examples of families missing funerals etc. Faux outrage this isn’t.
  4. 15 points
    No faux outrage from me, I'm genuinely angry about it. He and his wife had the virus for starters. He put hundreds if not thousands of people at risk by carry it almost the length of the country. Millions of people have barely left the house in two month, they not seen loved ones before they died, they missed funerals. They struggled through looking after their child whilst they had the virus. I'm angry with him as much as I am with Ferguson and Calderwood, and I'm angry at the government for brushing this under the carpet and basically rewriting history to make the guidelines fit in with his actions.
  5. 12 points
    so you have stuck to the rules that he didn't, and that your lord and saviour boris johnson has just said you didn't need to stick to at all? do you not see how much they are taking the piss out of us all, especially you for (presumably) voting for, supporting and now defending him? this isn't "faux outrage". i'm not sure why that phrase keeps coming up. nobody is pretending to be outraged by this, people genuinely are outraged by just how fu cking ridiculous and arrogant these absolute cu nts are. there's nothing "faux" about it. like i said, i've got no real issue or surprise in boris johnson backing cummings. like dushane said "you always back your boy". but why on earth are every day folk like you, who you've just said have made quite remarkable sacrifices that have been "fu cking hard", but the decision you felt like you had to make based on the instruction from cummings and johnson, not angry at this? what would he have had to do for you to be angry? be a labour politician?
  6. 12 points
    Yeah. We used to have a hardcore of 10k, which over time grew to be about 20k when we were in League 1. People don't become "hardcore" without dipping a toe in first. Also the obsession with avoiding empty seats in England is bizzare, does anyone genuinely care if there are a few hundred empties for a game against Palace?
  7. 11 points
    Seriously debs, it’s a mild flu for 80% of people. the likelihood that both parents would be incapacitated and unable to care for their child is v v low and in that unlikely situation, there are still options, especially for the prime minister’s senior aide. Driving 260 miles against the guidelines is straight wrong and to use the child as an excuse merely makes it worse imo.
  8. 11 points
    So he's one of those unaccountable and unelected elites?
  9. 10 points
    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11991509/loans-manager-role-explained-dean-hammond-on-why-it-is-so-important Former Leicester loans manager explains the significance of the role Last Updated: 24/05/20 9:05am Harvey Barnes is an example of the success of Leicester's loan system With more and more players going out on loan, Premier League clubs now appoint a loans manager to handle the progress of their young talent when they are playing elsewhere. In conversation with Adam Bate, Leicester City's former loans manager Dean Hammond explains the varied aspects of the role and why it is so important to player development… There is a bit of everything to the role of a loans manager. At Leicester, I used to be at the training ground two or three days a week watching the U23 team, while the rest of my time was spent out at games and going to see players. You are around the coaching staff on a regular basis and you are in the meetings discussing plans for the future. These can be difficult decisions because it is a balancing act and there are so many parts of the football club to keep happy. The U23 manager wants the strongest squad that he can possibly have. He wants to keep his best players, work with them and improve them. Others at the football club might want the same player to go out on loan so they can develop in order to make the first team or be sold on elsewhere. Everyone has their own opinion so it can be difficult, but the role of a loans manager in that can be beneficial. Solving a problem When I was young and I went out on loan from Brighton to Aldershot and Leyton Orient I had very little contact from my parent club. You were basically left to your own devices. Managers are busy and their main focus is the first team and it is the same for the coaching staff. As a result, some players who go out on loan can end up feeling lonely and isolated. They can become a little bit lost. Are the club sending me out because they want me to be a part of the future or are the club sending me out because I am not part of the future? To have a loans manager watching their games and watching their training, speaking to the manager where they are on loan, speaking to the manager of the club they are on loan from, I think it is really, really important. It is that middle man for the players. About Dean Hammond Hammond started his career at Brighton before enjoying promotion with Southampton and going on to be part of the team that took Leicester up to the Premier League. After a spell at Sheffield United, he returned to Leicester in a coaching capacity and worked as a loans manager within the academy setup. He recently vacated the role for personal reasons. “My wife had a back operation and we have three children so I had to leave because of that and become a stay-at-home dad for four or five months. I really enjoy the role and I think it suited me. I love working with players individually because I think you can give them more information. If the opportunity came again, I would like to do it.” Choosing the right club When a player goes out on loan these days it is not just a case of a club wanting your player and you sending them out. It is about doing that work behind the scenes before allowing the player to go out on loan. There are very good reasons why a club is chosen. My job was to watch our players out on loan but it was also about watching a club where we did not have a player out on loan yet but we knew they were interested in our players. We would analyse their playing style and what the manager's personality was like because some players might not fit with certain managers. I would speak to anyone I knew at that club to find out what the culture was like. What's the atmosphere? What are the players like? It all helps you work out whether a player will settle. There was a lot of analysis. Dean Hammond was a player at Leicester before becoming their loans manager Sometimes it is not so easy to understand why it does not work out for a player at a football club. It might just be that the manager and the player clash. There might be the wrong sorts of players in the dressing room who can influence the player. But you to try to avoid that. Ultimately, it comes down to those above to make the decision but the idea is to put some options to the club and the player so that they can work together to find out what's best. Once the player has made the move, clubs are pretty open. I had access to the managers. I could find out what the players were doing well, if there was an issue in terms of how they were settling in socially and on the pitch. People are happy to help. The parent club wants the player to do well and the clubs where they have gone want them to do well too. Support for the player As well as thinking like a coach, you also need to look at things from the player's point of view. Young players need mentors within football clubs and you are a kind of mentor. For a young player, having someone around you just to give some advice, just to be present when you need them, is really important. As a player of any age, you need to be able to reflect. So that support network is vital if you want that player to do well. If the player is relaxed off the pitch and feels good then he can perform on the pitch. If they are travelling long distances for the loan are they staying in a hotel or are they being put up in an apartment? That is important. Are they seeing family enough? Are they on their own or do they have a partner? Do they have a wife and children? These are simple things that we can help them with off the pitch so they concentrate on what to do on the pitch. The job of a loans manager involves watching their games. I would then watch the games back and clip them up, sending those clips to the player and speaking with them on the phone giving them my advice. I would write a report for him that he and the club could see. The information was there for everyone. I would spend time at the training ground. I would never advise a player against what the manager wanted him to do because that does not work. If a player was playing in a certain formation and that manager wanted him to play a certain way, I would speak to the player and the manager and ask that question. How is the manager wanting you to play? What are the demands of this particular role? For instance, we had Callum Elder at Wigan. He was a left-back and Paul Cook was the manager. They played out from the back and wanted the full-backs to push on. That is what Callum was good at. So we found out what they wanted from him and worked from there. 7 Callum Elder during his loan spell at Wigan Athletic from Leicester City Loans are not for everyone Academy football has its benefits but it has its drawbacks as well and going out on loan can be daunting. It makes you grow up pretty quickly. You are going into a dressing room full of professionals who are relying on this for their livelihoods so that is a change of atmosphere straightaway. As a younger player, you have to understand that pretty quickly. They are still young and they are still learning so it might take one, two or three loans before they can settle at a new club or come back to their parent club and be a success there. Sometimes there are good reasons why a player might not go out on loan. The first-team manager might want them around the group so that he can keep an eye on them every day. It is always good to have a nucleus of U23 players who you can bring up and train with the first team. It keeps first-team players on their toes if they are up against young players in training every day. They know they still need to perform. Some individuals may not feel ready to go out on loan just yet because of their age or because they do not want to be away from their family. The positive example Barnes during his loan stay at Barnsley that helped prepare him for the top Harvey Barnes is a great example of how the loan system can work for club and player. Each club improved his development because the standard increased gradually. He started in League One with MK Dons, then he went to a lower-tier Championship club in Barnsley and then he went to West Brom at the top of the Championship.
  10. 10 points
    Out of interest, how many of them 37,000 people had their loved ones around them when they died? Do you see the issue?
  11. 10 points
    Nobody on either side should be seeking to politicise this. It's not about Right v Left or Blue v Red. It's about the competence of government during this crisis. Simple as.
  12. 10 points
  13. 9 points
    What year are you in Strokes ?
  14. 9 points
    I'm taking no pleasure in this. I'm just seething for the countless thousands who have suffered alone when apparently they could have just hopped in their car to be near family if it suited them. It's not the act in itself that irks. It's the lack of contrition or acknowledgement that the rules have been retroactively rewritten to suit one man at the very top of government. It absolutely reeks.
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  17. 8 points
    Ok, clearly you're not particularly knowledgeable on the subject, so I will educate you (free of charge! The public purse doesn't even pay for me on a Sunday!). The Government do want all children to return soon. They initially want those 3 classes to return first, but would like for all classes to return for at least a month before the end of term. Which makes it only a few weeks after the initial classes return. Those initial 3 classes? Yes, we can just about make provision to cope with them and ensure reasonable safety precautions. Every class? Nope, can't be done. Most schools are sending work, and are setting work weekly. I'm sorry your Nephew hasn't received any, but that's not my experience from most schools. Unless, of course, you're one of those parents emailing the teachers asking individual personalised learning for every child. My own experience of teachers (which, I presume is probably more extensive than "my family member knows one") is that most of them are already going out of their way to do everything they can to continue the education of the children. Bin men, and other public sector jobs, are able to take precautions to ensure reasonable safety. Partly because they're adults, and partly because they don't need to work with large groups of people. Some schools will also be able to make reasonable precautions to protect their staff, in which case that's fine - they can go to work. If your employer can't make reasonable precautions to ensure safety though (and I mean reasonable, not absolute safety), then you shouldn't have to go into work. That's not my line, by the way, that was one of the Government lines from previous briefings. "Guaranteed safety reeeeeee". Ah ok, I see the level of maturity we're dealing with here. Luckily I teach small children, so this is my level! Yes, I don't believe the unions are being genuine when they say "guaranteed safety", though if you take everything literally I imagine you've had a difficult life. But it's the Unions job to ensure the safety of their workers (if they didn't, then I'd be wondering why I pay union fees), and personally I believe that's their 'starting point' in the negotiations to try and ensure reasonable protection for teachers. If they didn't take a tough stance, then the Gov. would bend teachers over even more. That's the job of unions.
  18. 7 points
    🤣🤣🤣🤣
  19. 7 points
    I understand and agree with everyone who’s raised concerns about this potential transfer but at the same time, if we sign fvcking Coutinho it’s a right cvnting statement. If you don’t do a little bit of creamy love wee at the thought you’re probably not a football fan. Leicester City signing Coutinho, we might as well enjoy it. X
  20. 7 points
    You do know teachers are still working, right? Did a teacher sleep with your wife or something? As a teacher, I've also worked full time since the start of the virus. 50% of my days are in school, and 50% of them I'm working from home. During school hours, I'm working with groups of up to 15 children, without any protection. That's alright for me though - I'm young, and probably fairly virus proof. I think "guaranteeing safety" obviously isn't possible, and probably shouldn't be taken literally. However, there also needs to be reasonable measures in place to make sure there's an adequate level of safety - just as all employers have had to do. I actually think the current measures that my school have in place for return probably does have an adequate level of safety (though that is thanks to my school, NOT from the unhelp information from the Government), as it currently stands. However, if the Government want all children to return, then I don't see how it's possible to do so and maintain a reasonably safe environment. People saying that it's just "teachers feeling special" is just odd. Is the reason hairdressers aren't open because they're being precious fairies as well? Edit: Oh, I'd like to add that I also voluntarily worked through my holidays (for free) so I could help look after the children of key workers. But yeah, precious, lazy teachers, and all that jazz.
  21. 7 points
    Presumably, they actually live in the area on their restriction-following walk, not in London, 250 miles away. The Durham Constabulary have confirmed his first visit already. His second visit? Not yet but the story is fairly young and seems to be being released incrementally. Worth keeping an eye on. That’s simply not correct, is it? Are you telling me Steve Baker, former Chairman is the European Research Group, is anti-Brexit? I’m not buying it. Sure, sack them. Sit a by-election. We’ll see who’s missEd who more between three backbenchers (likely replaced by new Labour MPs) and the adviser the government are hands on deck desperately trying to defend. Sure pal, campaign for it if you like. But they’re not public officials are they? They’re private employees/freelance workers. You going to snitch on construction workers not 2m apart as well? Frankly don’t care
  22. 7 points
    My last word on the subject but from the early stages of the virus my gut feeling was it would be seen as a last chance scenario for one last chance for remainers to derail brexit, the government would never fall but if they could remove boris and replace him with someone more europhile they would give it a go, so not surprised how the media and others have been desperate to get boris.
  23. 6 points
    There’s no faux outrage, his neighbours were ready to lynch him tonight when he walked home. He can thank social distancing and their self restraint that the abuse he got was just verbal. I know I know some will pass that off as the ‘Metropolitan Elite’ This man is the Chief Advisor to the Prime Minister, to believe the only option available to him was to drive 260 miles for childcare is at best incredibly naive. The fact he did it whilst positive for Covid 19 is just something else. Thousands have died alone with no family member at their side on the basis of this government’s policy. The fact he road roughshod over that is one thing, the fact he didn’t have the decency to fall on his sword is something else, the fact that the PM and Cabinet sycophants backed him is totally off the scale. Yes I’m Livid.
  24. 6 points
    It is so weird
  25. 6 points
    Stays with you, obviously. We’re just about to send millions of children back to school, it’s clear that the government doesn’t think this is going to be a big issue for kids. What has everybody else in the country been doing when they get ill, popping round their folks’? I cannot understand this. He broke the guidelines. Call it a sacking offence, don’t call it a sacking offence, I don’t care. But pretending this is all fine because of a series of hypotheticals which never came to pass is preposterous.
  26. 6 points
    Straight up harassment and intimidation of his family. Utterly deplorable. This is beyond personal.
  27. 6 points
    So to confirm then the big Guardian/Mirror scoop consisted of Cummings allegedly being spotted in some woods by an anonymous walker (wait, why was the walker in the woods too?). No pictures. No videos. No real evidence. In fact, despite this story being pretty old now, still no real evidence that he broke any guidelines whatsoever. Still, the guy might still end up losing his job. It's almost like these guys got it spot on from a few weeks ago: Also, those calling for Cummings head, if it does happen I presume you'll all be calling for the resignation of the following MP's who literally did break the rules: Tahir Ali: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-52154327 Vaughan Gething: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11654366/picnic-spot-used-health-minister-fenced-off/ Kevan Jones: https://order-order.com/2020/05/19/mps-coronavirus-centenary-celebration/ Surely that would be fair right? One rule for us all? I also assume all the Sky News reporters from yesterday will be relieved of their positions following the clear disregard for social distancing...
  28. 6 points
    Sounds like he's pretty ****ed tbh. With the first one I can understand it, but if he's been daytripping around then he needs the axe. Suppose it will come down to if there's any actual evidence he was out and about.
  29. 6 points
    Who were not ill at the time and resigned anyway. Not sure what you don’t get about this episode.
  30. 6 points
    There is no way they won't have enough evidence to back up that second story - they've sat on it for weeks, they went to the Government about it 6 weeks ago, so had plenty of time to check. They've probably got someone in the same street, checking on his vehicle / general whereabouts at his London home who've been ringing them up - who wouldn't take that paying job if they're stuck in doors? "Hello is that the Guardian? Yeah, Cummings has ****ed off in his Land-rover again." What I don't understand is why the Government have gone with the "fake news" defence. It might be the only option they've got to try and save face, but I really don't see they think they can pull it off - how it is in any way sufficiently believable to anyone outside of the hard core Conservative support (and even some of those probably don't buy it after today).
  31. 5 points
  32. 5 points
    Trump is borderline 25th Amendment worthy, Boris is an utterly dishonest charlatan.
  33. 5 points
    "I believe that in every respect he has acted responsibly and legally and with integrity and with the overwhelming aim of stopping the spread of the virus and saving lives." How did driving to Durham help stop the spread of the virus and save lives?
  34. 5 points
    I've rehearsed my answers & I'm sticking to them
  35. 5 points
    Am I the only one who couldn't give a shit about Dominic Cummings and whatever he has done? This forum has become pathetic, on both sides. I want to know about actual Corona virus news and whether we are any closer to getting through this, now all we have to read is about something which happened two months ago. We need football back, for something else to talk about because I can't stand reading this anymore.
  36. 5 points
    He's not going to shag you mate.
  37. 5 points
    Why do people want to keep arguing about this no one is going to change their minds this is why Mark wanted to avoid party politics in here, 99% of the people are so intransigent they'll never change their allegiance. So many seem to get great pleasure if a politician of a party they don't support messes up.
  38. 5 points
  39. 5 points
    Kabasele playing a blinder here with this tweet
  40. 5 points
    nobody wants recognition of what he did to be "hidden away", but i agree that it doesn't seem quite right that our stadium/it's grounds seem to honour/worship an owner more than it does any players in our history.
  41. 4 points
  42. 4 points
    This is the official account. Someone's getting a P45 but going out in flames.
  43. 4 points
    Authority and personal goodwill gone with all but the most rabid Brexit and Tory cultists in just a couple of sentences. I knew Johnson would be a terrible PM, but this is pluming whole new depths. Trump with a thesaurus.
  44. 4 points
    It means we’re playing Madders, Barnes and Cout behind Vardy and Koulibaly will be scratching his head wondering why the feck he signed for Man Utd as the three musketeers dance through for number 5 at OT. 👍
  45. 4 points
    'Is it one rule for you, Mr Cummings, and another rule for everybody else?' She asks while about 30 of them break the 2 meter rule
  46. 4 points
    My money is on the Guardian not existing in 6 months time, and good riddance.
  47. 4 points
    This is exactly the problem. Boris is a puppet who has got to where he is based on Cumming’s strategies and slogans and he’s probably bricking it right now that he’ll get even more found out if he has to sack him. Sad state of affairs when the government’s response to Dominic Cummings misdemeanours is clearly being orchestrated by Dominic Cummings. Clear tactic to talk about 4-year old child and “what would you do in this situation?” and get all the loyal aides that Dominic would tolerate in the cabinet pushing the same points. Laughable to see the same old usernames in this thread then trot out the same lines. They’d also make excellent puppets for the government!
  48. 4 points
  49. 4 points
    out of interest, great insult btw as per, pretty immature but hilarious so fair play, why are you still looking to defend him? can you genuinely not put political sides aside and see a cu nt for a cu nt? what would it take someone high up in the government to do before you stopped saying yeah that's fine, carry on?
  50. 4 points
    Basically they've weakened their own policy for the sake of Dominic Cummings not having to apologise.
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