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Foxin_mad

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  1. Foxin_mad

    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Or that of Brown and Blairs financial mismanagement?! How are Labour planning to pay for the things they suggest? By raising unemployment, increasing the minimum wage, increasing tax? Make the nasty rich man pay? stop the creation of jobs that pay to put food on the table and create a another bubble based on borrowing! Ok lets go round again! Except this bunch of Labour politicians are more dangerous than anything that has led before.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Its because its not possible certainly in the short term. At the end of the day if the figures were more conclusive like 70% I could say fair enough, lets go for it but we are talking a knife edge split. 48% of people did not want this to happen, of the 52% how many of those wanted a no deal Brexit? who knows, but its unlikely to be the majority of the population. A governments job is to do the best for the majority, and the jobs and security that the majority rely on. Despite Mays faults that is exactly what she is trying to do.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    But we have a 52% 48% split, there is no way everyone can ever be pleased with the outcome. I would rather no Brexit but to be honest if we have to have it, which given the result of the previous vote May is working to we probably should, then this is probably about as good a deal as the EU are going to let us have. I don't see what other options are going to even come close to pleasing everyone: No deal: 48% OF Remainers and x% of leavers pissed off Stay in: Leavers pissed, some remainers pissed at failings of democracy New Vote: Everyone pissed who believes a vote should be a vote
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    If the Labour party and Corbyn are pushing for a general election to push and promote their own agenda at the current time that is not in the best interest of Britain and it is not in the best interests of the public, it is only in the interest of egos in the Labour party. Yes there are a lot of issues for the UK but at present we need to solve this issue as if it is not dealt with correctly we will all be a lot poorer! The deal Labour are proposing even if they got into power is little different from that proposed by May, any deviation from that and the EU wont accept it anyway, so it a pointless exercise. In the unlikely event they were able to command a majority would they be able to get any deal through parliament?
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    I think you have a point. Maybe a vote on the options: Remain Hard Brexit May Deal What is not helpful at this point is for the Euro sceptic Tories of the Labour party to pretend there is an alternative deal. There is not, the EU will not accept anything else, that much is clear. If we want to be out of the EU in 'name' and protect jobs and stability in the short and long term, this is the only option. If we want to stay in then great. I personally feel that a hard Brexit is not in the interests of the British public in general, what I can respect is that May also has this opinion, she has achieved on the face of it a good deal given what she has to work with. Her speech yesterday I felt was good, she has tied to move this forward in the only way she can and she is in touch with the electorate in that most people want to move this on, we are sick of the fighting we just want it to be dealt with. For Brexit voters surely the fact that we are out at least means we can negotiate our future relationship going forward? This is a temporary measure whilst we continue to negotiate? We have to consider that along with peoples changing opinion, that 48% of the electorate did not want Brexit anyway, so surely we have to compromise to meet the needs of every person in the country?
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    I am not in denile. As we know I wanted remain, still do the EU is good for business. I can accept that public opinion has changed. What I dispute is that every Labour area is now remain, it is simply not true or likely in most cases particularly in the North. The proposals being put forward by Labour would also never ever be accepted by the EU, its cloud cuckoo politics as are most thing suggested by Corbyn, his team and his supporters. Its a joke to see most Labour MPs and supporters ridiculing the deal May has put forward, given the circumstances this is the best she can get on the basis of what the public voted for and what is in the best interests of the country in terms of jobs etc. The realistic options are: Hard Brexit This Deal No Brexit That has always be the case. The Labour party can talk from the opposition about any kind on pie in the sky deal they like but it will NEVER be accepted by the EU.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    That will be me then . Kinder caring politics at its best, gotta love the left! Cant wait for the day mad commie Corbyn gets in and his team of kind caring lefty individuals 'educate' us or send us to the gulags. Are you serious telling me Stoke-on-Trent is now remain too? Anyone can produce a nonsense poll to support a nonsense argument.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    She is a Socialist though, so I imagine Socialists would love her misguided ways and financial incompetence. Really you have to be financially incompetent to be a Socialist anyway. Socialist economics is to give more away than you earn in your weekly wage then ask the bank if you can borrow a bit more because you are going to stimulate 'big growth' or something and you will be able to pay it back later. Most of the mad far left extremists including commie Corbyn are right behind her, in more ways than one. She would be in a cabinet as would all the other far left extremist lunatics currently in the Labour party. I mean I bet there would even be a place for Chris Williamson!!
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    But isn't it an admission from them that the system is not fit for purpose not fit for their little socialist darlings? I actually completely disagree anyway, there are many fantastic state schools, many fantastic teachers in state schools. I would no matter how rich I am ever send my children to private school. The majority of people educated at state schools and attending a Polytechnic Uni are far more decent, pragmatic, have more common sense then the out of touch twerps educated at most Private schools to be fair. The irony now is that it is the privileged elite that really get behind the twisted ideals of a far left extremist Corbyn government, that would actually destroy the lives of many of the working class/poor they claim to care so much about in pursuit of an ideology that has been proven time and time again to be completely unworkable.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    If they carry on this path they will be absolutely decimated in the North and Midlands, their traditional core areas. You ask the average person in Stoke-on-Trent about Palestine and they quite rightly couldn't give a flying. Quite what a major British Political party is doing waving them at a conference I have absolutely no idea.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    She Captioned it 'Image from Rochester' though? Surely some meaning in those words given what party was involved there and the perception they generate of their so called voter base. If a right winger took a picture of a town predominately of another religion and posted a stereotypical picture I am quite sure people would be up in arms, again needlessly but this is the world in which we live!
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    I am just being facetious, I could not really care less but many do! Surely they have a point it is a bit racist to stereotype in a negative way a particular type of demographic/groups of people (i.e. white working class men who drive wans, smoke, drink and hang flags out of their council house). I am sure if some member of the right or a Tory made a comment about Taxi drivers, bus drivers and part of their identity the PC brigade would be all over it.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Its basically racism towards white working class Brits who live on council estates. I am not too sure how this could be seen as one of the better things seen or done.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    There are quite a lot of these kind of 'trolls' it seems that attend the Labour conference though (and other party conferences for balance). I mean seriously why on earth in Great Britain, in England, in Liverpool would a room full of people be wearing Palestine Lanyards and waving Palestine flags? Its absolutely incompressible, needless and pointless.
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    Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Basically they might have another referendum but they are not sure, if there is another referendum remain maybe an option. Labour will vote down any deal that does not include 'a' customs union but they will remove us from 'the' customs union. Basically the same as the Tories but the is a big red Labour Brexit for the many not the few- blah blah fairness, rights, equality, Palestine etc
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