TaggertvsWise

On 09/09/2020 at 13:26, TaggertvsWise said:

Wow. Fofana & Castagne for less than we sold Chillwell. Retained Mendy. I would be very happy with that before the season starts with one eye on improving our attacking options after a few games. Just before 7 this morning TalkSPORT dedicated a segment to our outstanding transfer policies in recent years and this window (despite a few short sighted gripes on this forum) would make for further proof that as club, top to bottom, LCFC has its shit together.

Just saying like...

8 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Schmickles

Castagne Evans (if fit) Soy Justin

Mendy

Madders Tielers

Ünder Vardy Barnes

 

If Evans is injured then I dunno what we do. 

Can I just quickly call this out and nip it in the bud right now please before it catches on.

So my new superstition is to do the ironing and drink beer for the whole game. Anyone else evolved theirs?

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

Man City only score from corners. Theyre just an expensive Burnley.

I laughed out loud at this

On 12/09/2020 at 18:50, Raw Dykes said:

That's why I stopped reading the BBC's football site. Every other story was a women's football one. 

I suspect the BBC will take that as an absolute win.

1 hour ago, funkyrobot said:

The results post lock down don’t back up the impact theory tbh

That is not exclusive on Gray though. He has had fine results as an impact sub.

2 minutes ago, KFS said:

Talking about him being an impact sub is fine, but to be that you have to make an impact..

Er... but he did... what’s your point?

4 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

I just feel that currently we seem to be abit more ‘West Ham’ rather than the ‘Leicester of old’ (when we had Steve Walsh) when it comes to recruitment.

I disagree, I think we have our shit together after the champ league recruitment scandal. Maddison, Perreira, JJ, Soyuncu, Castagne and  Evans back up my point, but that is what a forum is all about, feel free to have your own take on it. 

1 minute ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Agree with this actually, there was always a perception that Wes was slow purely because he’s an absolute unit, however he actually has a good turn of pace.

I recall reading he was recorded as being mightily quick in our title winning season once he got going. I haven’t got the stats to hand but it’s stuck in my head as he often gets stick for being slow.

5 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

That's very interesting. I often wonder what Liverpool supporters think of Rodgers managerial career there as it's not a black and white issue I don't think. The tremendous job he appeared to have done at Swansea secured him that position in the first place. He was blessed to have inherited some good players but nevertheless, it was still under his stewardship that they had that one great season. 

 

It then seemed to go down hill rapidly? Obviously any team is going to miss the amount of goals and influence lost through the transfers or injury of Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge, though there were other rumours that part of the reason Suarez wanted out was because he just couldn't stand Rodgers. There was also a thought, from an interview with Glen Johnson that certain senior players saw through him as he tried to be a Mourhinio mini me and in the early days, by accident, occasionally slipped accidentally into a Portuguese accent! 

 

There is also his supposed poor record in the transfer market yes surely he signed some good players like Coutinho and Firminho as well!

 

Is he a good manager or just a one dimensional system coach? Is he a poor manager but an excellent coach? Is he merely a good manager that’s progressing and learning from inevitable mistakes like any other manager? Or is he arrogant, full of the blarney and merely Teflon because he's an incredibly media savvy conman?

 

He confuses the hell out of me and I could perhaps make a case for all of them. 

General opinion is one of affection. Considered to be genuine and charismatic with a great outlook in how to play. If they get a sniff of being false up here you get found out pretty quickly so that tells you something. He possessed exceptional man management which went a long way and was a good training ground coach but simply put, never had a plan ‘B’ so once the slide set in he was unable to stop it.  Still admired here though.

12 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

I think this is about reviving the careers of players who have seemingly, for whatever reason, have gone out of form having previously performed at a certain level. This doesn't really apply to Sterling as he was a new kid on the block, though it has to be said, Pep has done a great job with him. Ibe also was an up and coming young player and not one that had hit the heights and come down. As at happens, he's never seemingly progressed to hit the heights anywhere since either!

Yeah, it is debatable as to how much Rodgers got out of Ibe and one can argue the slide was irreversible but I believe Eddi was unable to maintain the trajectory Rodgers set him on which does speak volumes for him getting the best out of limited players whether we are talking from and attitudinal or ability context.

It is widely spoken of up here amongst Liverpool fans that Rodgers saw Sterling’s raw potential early and dismantled and rebuilt his football DNA to ensure he would fulfil it. Yes Guardiola has done a great job but the raw materials he had to work with were honed under Rodgers’ stewardship which may not have been discovered under many other managers. 

8 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

Do we know of any other success stories for Rodgers other than him claiming Routledge? I can remember him weaving his magic with Ballotelli (or not) but are there any other examples good or bad?

I don't disagree that some players sometimes just need a change of club or manager but wondered why Rodgers is implicitly suggesting he's good at this but only evidencing one reasonably decent player.

Sterling & Ibe

The embarrassment of McNeil falling like he’d been shot from a cut lip is all I need to say no thanks to that potential move.

I just want to see this done and Rice go to Chelsea purely to watch West Ham fans totally lose their shit.

3 hours ago, happy85 said:

West Ham ready to pay Arsenal £5m to seal Rob Holding loan | Alan Nixon

 

West Ham dropped out of signing Tarkowski 

 

Be surprised at this after how well he played for Arsenal at the weekend

9 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

I read that somewhere, possibly on here, but is it true? Were we ever told a price? Did we met it if so?

I heard they wanted 25mill and we only went as high as 18

8 hours ago, W88DY said:

He wasn`t even listed in the missing players list and as soon as i didn`t see his name i automatically put 2 and 2 together and i thought then he might be off, i have said it before and i will say it again but in his 4 years here he has not really improved very much under the guidance of 4 or 5 different managers. Good luck to him... 

He might just become that better player somewhere else..  Who know`s ! 

I wonder why that could possibly be? I would use the word ‘guidance’ lightly in that context. He made small improvements last year with a consistent manager. Hopefully he can kick on now but even as one of his staunchest supporters I think this is his make or break season. 

He is being groomed by Liverpool apparently so I guess that is a no go.

Ditto

2 hours ago, Abrasive fox said:

But at least I have the capacity to be coherent unlike that last post of yours 😂😂😂.

Which one? The one about Hudson-Odoi?

I see Hudson-Odoi could be loaned out. I suspect there is a good deal to be made there with wages not too astronomical.

2 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said:

If I was putting 100m to something I'd do on something that might increase our turnover before doing that.

Probably why you haven’t earns the resources to make such an investment.

I am keen on this.  Aside from his attributes to make a success of your career and be valued at Burnley says he has a good head on his shoulders.  Say what you want about Dyche but he wouldn't tollerate prima-donnas, so for him to hold out for a large fee says a lot about his attitude.

2 hours ago, KFS said:

Steady on, we still need a winger and until we’ve seen Castagne in action I’m not 100% we’ve replaced Chilwell.

 

 

Hence why I said give it a few games to assess our options