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  1. 4 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

    I just feel that currently we seem to be abit more ‘West Ham’ rather than the ‘Leicester of old’ (when we had Steve Walsh) when it comes to recruitment.

    I disagree, I think we have our shit together after the champ league recruitment scandal. Maddison, Perreira, JJ, Soyuncu, Castagne and  Evans back up my point, but that is what a forum is all about, feel free to have your own take on it. 

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  2. 1 minute ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

    Agree with this actually, there was always a perception that Wes was slow purely because he’s an absolute unit, however he actually has a good turn of pace.

    I recall reading he was recorded as being mightily quick in our title winning season once he got going. I haven’t got the stats to hand but it’s stuck in my head as he often gets stick for being slow.

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  3. 5 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

    That's very interesting. I often wonder what Liverpool supporters think of Rodgers managerial career there as it's not a black and white issue I don't think. The tremendous job he appeared to have done at Swansea secured him that position in the first place. He was blessed to have inherited some good players but nevertheless, it was still under his stewardship that they had that one great season. 

     

    It then seemed to go down hill rapidly? Obviously any team is going to miss the amount of goals and influence lost through the transfers or injury of Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge, though there were other rumours that part of the reason Suarez wanted out was because he just couldn't stand Rodgers. There was also a thought, from an interview with Glen Johnson that certain senior players saw through him as he tried to be a Mourhinio mini me and in the early days, by accident, occasionally slipped accidentally into a Portuguese accent! 

     

    There is also his supposed poor record in the transfer market yes surely he signed some good players like Coutinho and Firminho as well!

     

    Is he a good manager or just a one dimensional system coach? Is he a poor manager but an excellent coach? Is he merely a good manager that’s progressing and learning from inevitable mistakes like any other manager? Or is he arrogant, full of the blarney and merely Teflon because he's an incredibly media savvy conman?

     

    He confuses the hell out of me and I could perhaps make a case for all of them. 

    General opinion is one of affection. Considered to be genuine and charismatic with a great outlook in how to play. If they get a sniff of being false up here you get found out pretty quickly so that tells you something. He possessed exceptional man management which went a long way and was a good training ground coach but simply put, never had a plan ‘B’ so once the slide set in he was unable to stop it.  Still admired here though.

  4. 12 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

    I think this is about reviving the careers of players who have seemingly, for whatever reason, have gone out of form having previously performed at a certain level. This doesn't really apply to Sterling as he was a new kid on the block, though it has to be said, Pep has done a great job with him. Ibe also was an up and coming young player and not one that had hit the heights and come down. As at happens, he's never seemingly progressed to hit the heights anywhere since either!

    Yeah, it is debatable as to how much Rodgers got out of Ibe and one can argue the slide was irreversible but I believe Eddi was unable to maintain the trajectory Rodgers set him on which does speak volumes for him getting the best out of limited players whether we are talking from and attitudinal or ability context.

     

    It is widely spoken of up here amongst Liverpool fans that Rodgers saw Sterling’s raw potential early and dismantled and rebuilt his football DNA to ensure he would fulfil it. Yes Guardiola has done a great job but the raw materials he had to work with were honed under Rodgers’ stewardship which may not have been discovered under many other managers. 

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  5. 8 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

    Do we know of any other success stories for Rodgers other than him claiming Routledge? I can remember him weaving his magic with Ballotelli (or not) but are there any other examples good or bad?

    I don't disagree that some players sometimes just need a change of club or manager but wondered why Rodgers is implicitly suggesting he's good at this but only evidencing one reasonably decent player.

    Sterling & Ibe

  6. 8 hours ago, W88DY said:

    He wasn`t even listed in the missing players list and as soon as i didn`t see his name i automatically put 2 and 2 together and i thought then he might be off, i have said it before and i will say it again but in his 4 years here he has not really improved very much under the guidance of 4 or 5 different managers. Good luck to him... 

    He might just become that better player somewhere else..  Who know`s ! 

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    I wonder why that could possibly be? I would use the word ‘guidance’ lightly in that context. He made small improvements last year with a consistent manager. Hopefully he can kick on now but even as one of his staunchest supporters I think this is his make or break season. 

  7. 2 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said:

    If I was putting 100m to something I'd do on something that might increase our turnover before doing that.

    Probably why you haven’t earns the resources to make such an investment.

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  8. I am keen on this.  Aside from his attributes to make a success of your career and be valued at Burnley says he has a good head on his shoulders.  Say what you want about Dyche but he wouldn't tollerate prima-donnas, so for him to hold out for a large fee says a lot about his attitude.

  9. 1 hour ago, sphericalfox said:

    It was a little alarming to view social media and watch fans having a meltdown about our pre-season preparations. Yes, it hasn't been helpful for a number of players being unavailable due to quarantine misdemeanours, we're obviously still struggling with a couple of key players out with injury still. Yet... We are not alone in the league in our poor match-readiness. Aside from about one or two teams that have not had to bring in many players, and are mainly trying to get match fit, the vast majority of the teams going into the season are simply not ready. It means (as you pointed out) 6-7 weeks of poor performances, disjointed team selections, lack of match fitness, and teams with influxes of new players transitioning and getting to know each other.

     

    If we are aiming to play a particular tactical shape and formation this season, and haven't acquired the players to do so quite yet (or are unavailable due to injury), then fans and supporters need to temper their expectations for the first couple of months as it's going to be disjointed, players are not fully fit, and we'll have to adapt until we have the players available and ready to play our desired and primary tactical formation.

     

    Is it possible to purchase some patience or lower expectation in the transfer window for our fanbase?

    It social media mate, don’t expect too much intelligence.

  10. For what it’s worth I have a friend who’s involved in sports marketing. A huge football fan whose hometown club is Atalanta. She reckons we have a gem in Castagne who is predominantly right but has been used recently on the left fairly comfortably. I mention this as I recall seeing some chat about where he plays / what are his strengths etc so it sounds like a good signing.

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  11. This guy needs a chance and to surround himself with the right people. He has obviously gone through hard times and is fighting to rebuild his career. I believe our club set up from the owners to the new training ground will provide him with a safe environment to thrive. I would love to see him here.

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