TaggertvsWise

20 minutes ago, Thefoxman said:

Wasn't he garbage at Newcastle 🤷‍♂️

That was my question, seems he just wasn’t at the right club. 

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

I wouldn't even say he was a flop at Newcastle, he only got to play a total of 568 minutes in his time at Newcastle before going back to Marseille, he never got a chance and started just 4 league games for them

 

His last 5 seasons

15/16 - 1 goal and 2 assists in 568 minutes of game time in all competitions at Newcastle

16/17 - 15 goals and 13 assists in 43 games in all competitions

17/18 - 26 goals and 17 assists in 54 games in all competitions

18/19 - 18 goals and 9 assists in 37 games in all competitions

19/20 - Managed just 30 minutes this season due to an ankle injury, however he did make a cameo appearance in the only game Marseille played in after the break so hopefully he is past the injury

Thanks for this. Looks more than promising 

Just catching up on this. Not seen anything of him since his first stint in the prem. This fella seems to be a popular prospect on this thread but why was he such a flop at Newcastle and what gas he done since to convince everyone that he will turn it around with us?

1 hour ago, RizLCFC said:

If we’re in the free transfer market then Ryan Fraser and a slightly audacious ‘Cambiassoesque’ move for David Silva.

Not sure that the attitude he has shown is something we want in our club

Agree, I think the stability of some of our players and general set up would enable him to prosper

I like Zaha, wanted us to go for him when we lost Mahrez, he’s the kind of player that would get you bum off your seat when he gets the ball and I think would do well in our team. Still a big fan of Deeney, this season has proven we need a few more leaders and I believe he’d link up well with Vardy

11 hours ago, notnow john said:

We've never had a player that wears an Alice band,

lets keep it that way !

Here’s me thinking we were a club who welcomes anyone and everyone...

During lockdown I have been playing a bit of golf with Liverpool fans. (I live on the Wirral) they loved Rodgers until they started to lose and then showed he absolutely no plan B. He got away with it at Celtic as everyone is total shit but as soon as teams work us out we are stuffed.
 

Today he seemed to try and buck his trend but to no avail. He has showed his tactical naivety and whereas I don’t want him out I think that perhaps his plan A reaped such success that we are not prepared for the free fall we find ourselves in.

Don’t get me wrong I am ****ing fuming and it feels quite cathartic as I write this but top 6, lots of areas to improve on is not a bad place to be.

Hopefully he can learn and we can all grow as a club next season.

6 hours ago, PhillippaT said:

If that's what it takes to replace Kante 😋

We have already replaced Kanté

On 20/06/2020 at 11:35, Nicolo Barella said:

With 1 year on his contract?

Ah yeah... good point. In that case I’d accept 50p and a bunch of grapes

8 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

If we had to sell Chilwell, the dream fantasy window would be something like

 

Out: £100 million

Chilwell £80 million

Gray £8 million

Slimani £7 million

Silva £5 million

Mendy

 

In: £130 million

White £35 million

Edouard £30 million

Telles £25 million

Sarr £25 million

Eze £15 million

 

Vardy Iheanacho Edouard 

Sarr Barnes Perez Eze Albrighton

Maddison Tielemans Praet

Ndidi Hamza

Telles Fuchs Ricardo Justin

Soyuncu Evans White Benkovic Morgan

Schmeichel Ward

 

Ideally we would loan out Benkovic and Hamza, although we would probably need them. White has played as a DM before for Leeds so he could potentially fill in there, or we could just move to 3 at the back to make up for Ndidi's absence. Eze, Perez, Maddison, Fuchs, White and Justin are all very versatile players which would help our squad a lot.

 

Of course it's incredibly unrealistic though and not worth the time I spent typing it out lol. Hopefully I'll be able to flush my mind of transfer brain with tonight's game.

We would get much more for Gray. It seems that we are the only set of fans who totally write him off. My Liverpool mates up here like him as do a few of the Man U ones. Maybe they believe they have the set up to get more out of him??

I reckon if he left a top 10 team fighting for Europe would look to drop 15-20 mill on him.

Heard very good things about him a year or so ago, one of them being that Scotland shunted Robertson to the right just to accommodate him which is high praise indeed. We seem to manage injuries fairly well so in a perfect world he’d come back strong and we’d have a good replacement for another outgoing, make a tidy profit and really kick on.  Of course it’s a risk but with JJ & Fuchs as back up, if Chilly really wants to go, it’s one worth taking if we can get the price right.

16 hours ago, Pliskin said:

It’s one of those underrated, undersold transfers that will turn out to be a golden bit of business. 

Don’t think this is underrated at all. It’ll be just like Evans. A complete coup at the time which turned out to be exactly that

With his experience and ability we would be a better squad for Europe with him than without him to help nurture the likes of Maddison & Tielemans and be a good voice in the dressing room. If we can get the deal done on sensible financial terms I think it’s a no brainer.

I have always liked Lamela, wouldn’t have an issue with him coming here if he could sort his injuries out.

2 hours ago, Paddy. said:

Heard that Neymar may want to move on - straight swap?

I genuinely wouldn't want Neymar anywhere near our club.

Good shout, I wouldn't want him if he didn't lower his demands to those suited to a fringe Utd player with national squad aspirations who has had limited success in recent years.

12 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Often injured and is the highest paid full back in the world, it's a recipe for disaster. Completely goes against our recruitment and scouting policies that have been successful in recent years, pure Congerton this.

I would question if his injury record is a result of club instability from such a young age which will result in several factors:
 

1) Different managers, styles / training regimes (remember how injured Liverpool players hit when Klopp turned up? Hamstrings popping all over the place) Will have hindered developing a style and role that he can grow into and thrive.

2) He’s never looked ‘fit’ like Chilwell. We have a fairly good record with fitness and it was no surprise that as soon as Chilly started to gradually up his intensity he got fitter and better in a safe environment.

3) I would also question Shaw’s nutrition.... I can’t imagine it’s especially well tailored for recovery or a strict regime, playing a certain way. 
 

Playing with us would change all of these things which I believe would have a big impact on the lad.

On 31/12/2019 at 12:11, Facecloth said:

You sure?  

Yes, his contract is up in the summer and will be a perfect acquisition for a campaign involving Europe in my opinion

Obviously want loads but realistically my top 10 would be:
 

Top 4 / champ league football 

Golden Boot
Cup win
Get Adam Lallana

Get Jarrod Bowen 

Barnes / Gray / Iheanacho kick on

Retain Chilly / Madders / Youri / N’didi

Further promotion from the youth teams

England recognition for Hamza

Benkovic fulfils his potential 

Liverpool. Still bitter about losing 4-3... oh and Mark McGhee 

4 hours ago, Cujek said:

Just wish he would smile a bit. 

 

He looked miserable the whole game. 

 

When he was sat down after being taken off, he was muttering something to himself, looked like someone had pissed on him or something. 

 

Great performance today, I've said it before, there is a real player in there somewhere, but I think he holds him self back with poor desicion making 

Some players just can’t win can they??

7 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

I'd give my left bollock for that to happen 

Sadly, I think I genuinely would.