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Next Leader of the Opposition

  

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  1. 1. Labour Party (v2)

    • Andy Burnham
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    • Yvette Cooper
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    • Jeremy Corbyn
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    • Liz Kendall
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People will take this the wrong way but I genuinely don't think this country is ready for a black prime minister. I'm not saying it would stop me from voting for Labour (well I would never vote labour anyway) but I don't think the country is as ready as people may think.

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People will take this the wrong way but I genuinely don't think this country is ready for a black prime minister. I'm not saying it would stop me from voting for Labour (well I would never vote labour anyway) but I don't think the country is as ready as people may think.

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People will take this the wrong way but I genuinely don't think this country is ready for a black prime minister. I'm not saying it would stop me from voting for Labour (well I would never vote labour anyway) but I don't think the country is as ready as people may think.

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People will take this the wrong way but I genuinely don't think this country is ready for a black prime minister. I'm not saying it would stop me from voting for Labour (well I would never vote labour anyway) but I don't think the country is as ready as people may think.

 

I strongly disagree.

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I can't imagine those in the labour heartlands feeling they have anything to relate with Chuka Umuna. Labour have already seen a swing in Northern labour strongholds towards UKIP and I don't think the Labour Party is in a strong enough position to bring an ethnic figure as their leading light. If the party was in a stronger position then I could maybe see support rallying around him. However for me the Labour Party seems to be more divided than ever with the younger generation more liberal in their views with the older generation being much more set in their ways.

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People will take this the wrong way but I genuinely don't think this country is ready for a black prime minister. I'm not saying it would stop me from voting for Labour (well I would never vote labour anyway) but I don't think the country is as ready as people may think.

I think the people that strongly against the idea of a black PM probably wouldn't have voted Labour anyway. The vast majority won't give a **** what colour skin he has. And then there will be some who will quite simply vote for him because he's black, and I'm not joking. I mentioned him earlier, but you just know Sol Campbell would be voting Labour in 2020 if Umunna was in charge, despite the fact he wanted to stand for the Tories at the election.

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People will take this the wrong way but I genuinely don't think this country is ready for a black prime minister. I'm not saying it would stop me from voting for Labour (well I would never vote labour anyway) but I don't think the country is as ready as people may think.

What about a brown one, with a turban
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Saw an interview with Tristram Hunt this afternoon, and was impressed with him, not for the first time - talking about combining social democratic values with support for aspiration, except he put it across very well.

I'm not sure the Eton/Bullingdon abuse ladled out to Cameron would rule him out, but I do wonder whether his obvious poshness would alienate some target voters. Maybe a Hunt/Burnham dream team ticket, as Burnham comes across well, is less posh, but maybe lacks the gravitas or intellect or something?

I find Yvette Cooper shallow, cheap and obnoxious - and doubt I'm the only one. Surprised at Kendall being mentioned as she just seems like a lightweight greasy-pole climber to me. As for, Umunna, a bright bloke, obviously, and the business attitude might be helpful, but doesn't make him the new Obama. I agree with Dr. The Singh, too, he comes across as massively arrogant to me, and not a team player.

There's very little we disagree, sometime s I think your the white version of me but more perverse
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What about a brown one, with a turban

It doesn't bother me in the slightest whoever has the policies I agree with I would vote for. Saying that though we have to remember not all parts of the UK are like Leicester with a harmonious and prosperous diverse mix of cultures and race. Some areas of the UK are very much stuck in the past still.

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It doesn't bother me in the slightest whoever has the policies I agree with I would vote for. Saying that though we have to remember not all parts of the UK are like Leicester with a harmonious and prosperous diverse mix of cultures and race. Some areas of the UK are very much stuck in the past still.

Those places shouldn't be allowed to vote
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I'm sure a few hundred bitter old trade unionists would baulk at the idea of a wealthy somewhat arrogant black man getting the labour leadership and either vote UKIP or vote for the SWP spinoffs, but this isn't the 1970's and the important voter, the ones who decide the election, need to see a labour leader who is overtly pro wealth, pro business and maybe a little arrogant. They need to debunk the image that the labour party is made up of either outdated dinosaurs from the 70's/80's, Islamic extremists or sneering up-their-own-arse middle class champagne socialist liberals.

 

That is how you win elections, you win the middle ground. You don't come out appealing to your core vote, because then you scare away the middle, and you lose. You appeal to the middle and then when you are in government, that is when you appease your core vote with peripheral policies.

 

The other permutation is for him to be shadow chancellor. Either way, Labour need to get this right That means picking the leader most likely to get into no.10 in 2020 and not necessarily the one who the labour core would prefer. Last time they chose Ed because the core was fed up of Blairism, they can't make the same mistake again.

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I do not know most of these candidates well enough to comment but I think Labour got to try to reclaim Midlands and hold on their northern support so I do not think Burnham is charismatic enough to win over Midlands and will be seen as someone from Labour bydays.  He can't even beat Ed at last election.

 

Purely from googling their wikipedia, I reckon Dan Jarvis might be worth a go due to being raised in Nottingham and due to his army background which can help him to find common ground with Northern voters. I think Midlands voters will be alienated by Chuka Umunna's city slicker image. You only need to read some pages in How is your day thread to see London's negative image on here lol 

 

All of above is just pure conjecture based on my gut feelings at this stage though! 

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