Would you ever contemplate suicide?

[the zorro]

Tried it once, ended up in hospital and did some real damage.

 

Probably try it again. Nothing the doctor does can help.

[Wymsey]

Having a very tough time in getting any form of work - been laid off for just over a month now.

 

Makes you so very under-valued and makes you to think whether there's anything in life to look forward to.

 

 

Feel like having a nervous breakdown; feel irritable, poor sleep quality, and worried how I'm being perceived by others even.

[Ollie93]

This thread is a great idea for the ones suffering to come and share their problems and realise they are not on their own in the struggle. 

 

Having a very tough time in getting any form of work - been laid off for just over a month now.

 

Makes you so very under-valued and makes you to think whether there's anything in life to look forward to.

 

 

Feel like having a nervous breakdown; feel irritable, poor sleep quality, and worried how I'm being perceived by others even.

 

I was like this once mate but you just have to stay persistent. I know it is easy for me to say but things will get better, just keep ringing round and eventually you will find something!

[Freesolo]

Having a very tough time in getting any form of work - been laid off for just over a month now.

 

Makes you so very under-valued and makes you to think whether there's anything in life to look forward to.

 

 

Feel like having a nervous breakdown; feel irritable, poor sleep quality, and worried how I'm being perceived by others even.

Yea this can knock your self esteem and lead to depression for sure. Hope your feeling better soon.

Try to exercise and get outside as much as possible, i also try to compare my problems to other people's i mean say I'm worried and down about something i tend to get tunnel vision cant think about anything but my problems, I have learned over time look at the big picture and realise how lucky you really are to live in a country which is not in war or famine, basically think how worse off other people are and you should feel grateful for what you have

[Tincy]

This forum has helped me a lot of the last couple of months and I really appreciate it

[ADK]

I think it's more of a social problem than we are prepared to admit as a society.

 

As a society we value productivity above happiness.

[Wymsey]

The sad thing is that mental health discussions/issues are seen as a taboo.

 

Especially in the workplace, etc, where employers don't want to assist those who need help (i.e. employees) due to potential costly implications of trying to help them.

Edited 5 June 2015 by Wymeswold fox

[Guest MattP]

Nope, I've clearly been lucky but I have always seen life as an incredibly wonderful gift that has to be enjoyed.

 

Darko, that's a terrible situation, I can't imagine how you feel.

[Carl the Llama]

Nope, I've clearly been lucky but I have always seen life as an incredibly wonderful gift that has to be enjoyed.

Really not the right thread for humblebragging, Matt.

 

 

I think about it most days but without going into too much depth (I'm always loathe to talk about this stuff), the things that cause me to feel such urges are also the reasons I could never pull it off, which leaves me stuck in a vicious cycle with a permanent sense of helplessness.  Fun.

[Guest MattP]

Really not the right thread for humblebragging, Matt.

 

 

I think about it most days but without going into too much depth (I'm always loathe to talk about this stuff), the things that cause me to feel such urges are also the reasons I could never pull it off, which leaves me stuck in a vicious cycle with a permanent sense of helplessness.  Fun.

 

It wasn't supposed to be a humblebrag, if it came across like that I can only apologise.

 

I've just never had the sort of thoughts being spoken about and reading this thread is quite thought provoking with the struggles some people have. It has made me feel quite sad.

Edited 5 June 2015 by MattP

[Carl the Llama]

It wasn't supposed to be a humblebrag, if it came across like that I can only apologise.

 

I've just never had the sort of thoughts being spoken about and reading this thread is quite thought provoking with the struggles some people have. It has made me feel quite sad.

You're alright, it just read to me as "nope, my life's great" which seemed a bit crass in the middle of a bunch of guys pouring their hearts out.

[Merging Cultures]

I attempted to take my own life not so long ago, after suffering with depression and my GF leaving me.

Thankfully I'm still here to tell the tale, and I'm getting the required help to get me through it.

 

Glad you are back and safe. I don't know you, but I was quite concerned.

[Merging Cultures]

As a kid I tried a few times to choke myself out, I even wrote letters to say goodbye. In hindsight it certainly was a cry for help, but no one found out and I didn't tell anyone.

 

About 9 years ago, a very close family member took some pills and I just happened to be back in the UK, I had to drive down to where they were and go to the hospital. They were/are in an abusive relationship and couldn't figure a way out. I was the only one there, so I had to call other family members who were experienced in hospitals etc. It was probably one of the scariest and most defining points of my life. I can't stand the person they are still with, and other family members don't understand this.

 

Since then, when I've been unhappy and thought about it, I decided to take my own life would be really selfish and would ruin my family. Now, I just drink  

[MiniFox]

I have a lot of respect for the people on here, sharing your stories could help others and that's a real good thing to do.

 

I feel for darko massively, I can't imagine what you go through, I hope you you can stay positive.

 

For those of you who have had these feelings because of work, relationships and others, I hope it works out for you, it's sometimes hard when you go through tough times, it's hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel, the problem is we all get very caught up in what we're supposed to do, from a young age were taught to go to through as much education as we can, then on to work, then you can get a mortgage and have a family and so on. but of course, it's not always as simple as that, obstacles get in the way, ADK put it best imo.

 

"As a society we value productivity above happiness."

 

I've personally never had these thoughts, but I understand people who do, if you can, try make changes, I know it must be difficult, if you have responsibilities it can seem impossible to make changes, but it's the only way you can get to a place where you're truly happy, not just happy in the eyes of society, but happy with your life, these changes can be small, even if it's as simple as doing something you like for for a couple hours each week, it doesn't necessarily have to cost money, you could go on to make big changes, whether this be changing your career, location, anything, I'm not saying it will be easy, but that's the light at the end of the tunnel, doing and being what makes you truly happy. 

 

I'm not an expert, I don't mean to annoy anyone and I hope I haven't said anything that does make anyone upset, but this is just my opinion from what I've gathered from reading the other posts.

[RonnieTodger]

Well I have have been struggling with these thoughts for a while now tbh but not in an immediate way.

 

Im a single dad to my son (6 years old ) but he was born with a massively rare heart condition and as so far had 4 major operations one resulting in him having  a stroke and some brain damage which thankfully he seems to have recovered from and coming incredibly close to dying on the last one .

 

He is life limited, The doctors have told me he will only live to so and so age through out his life the latest guess they said will be about 13/14 when he could need a transplant. So the last 6 years i've lived my life from month to month year to year but knowing that i will eventually lose my child early.

 

So for a while no i have had the thought cross my mind that i can not see the point of it all after he as gone the thing is i know this is wrong and intend to get help for it cuz at the same time i don't want to feel this way . I have very close family and friends and they say they are there for me but that will never be enough for me cuz it wont get rid of that dark cloud on the horizon waiting for me .  

 

That's terrible mate, but I can't echo what Captain said enough. 

 

Genuinely taken aback by this thread. It's no consolation, but there's a common feeling of loneliness even when there are people around you and the number of people that are going through this has surprised me.

[Rincewind]

On Facebook someone posted a transcript of a maiden speech by a MP from Plymouth. He spoke on behalf of rx soldiers who struggle with mental illness. Some have taking their own lives. What impresses me about the speech in which he says past governments from all sides have failed to address the issue sufficiently is that he is a Tory. I will not change to a Tory supporter though. {)He is an ex army man himself. A high ranking officer.

 He would have made a better disability minister than the one they have. I also think ADK put it well. We are encoraged to do more  and more in our lives forgetting about the chill out times and taking moments to enjoy a little relaxation.However I find it a sad reflection on our socirty when people  feel they cannot live because of feelings of being a burden because of pressures from outsiders.

[Freesolo]

It's can be horrible watching people go around their lives making everything look so easy, when you have a mental illness even the easiest things like going into town take so much effort, these feelings in turn ruin your self esteem and make you feel weak like a pussy chained down by your own damaged mind.  

Edited 5 June 2015 by Freesolo

[DB11]

Its not exactly the sort of thing i would discuss with someone I know but I have thought about suicide or had suicidal thoughts, fantasized about it what not. But i never had the balls to go through with it I know i never will.

 

My younger brother naive and stupid tried to kill himself with a overdose of Paracetamol he took them at night then fell asleep hoping to die i guess, he woke up the next day being sick and went to hospital he is so lucky not to have died, his liver was breaking down and they had him on the transplant list. He was in hospital for 2 weeks afraid he was going to die, wishing he never tried to kill himself, crying and bawling, he was a mess then by some miracle his liver began to work properly and he recovered but he has damaged it for life and cant drink alcohol has to take medication and will probably need a transplant in the future. 

I never realised how important the liver was it is the most important organ after the heart and brain, it regulates so much stuff in your body and has over 300 different uses your body needs.

Moral of his story is do not try to kill yourself and definitely don't try with Paracetamol because it is not a peaceful death is a slow painful one 

 

That is always the case. A paracetamol overdose won't kill you but the damage the drugs do will cause your body to shut down (which can kill you), by which point you'll wish you hadn't done it and be in so much pain.

[foxoffderby]

Tried it once, ended up in hospital and did some real damage.

 

Probably try it again. Nothing the doctor does can help.

You need help. Go back to the doctor and get him to make you an appointment with a medical councellor or specialist who deals with depression.

[Lionator]

Since 14 (now 20) I've had crippling panic attacks over some of the most ridiculous things. My school work suffered very badly and my attendance was poor and was at an age where it was hard to talk to any mates about it. Had many occasions where I had these thoughts, especially on dark, cold winter nights sat alone in my room but never really had any thought of following through with it. Managed to scrape out enough to GCSE's to get into sixth-form where against the odds I managed to do quite well despite being told to leave several times by teachers who thought I was incapable (very dark times). I gained two strong A-levels, got into uni, gave it a go and just fell apart again and was forced out of the uni after barely a month. Couldn't get a job for months mainly due to anxiety and stuttering badly in interviews and I remember at one point for the first time thinking how I was going to kill myself. Luckily not long after I met an incredible girl and everything seemed to fall into place, I managed to get a spot at a different uni, moved away from home for the first time and all the feelings of anxiety, depression and despair have seemingly evaporated baring the odd episode which I can cope with. The relationship not long ago ended after 9 months due mainly to distance issues, but in that time I've completely transformed as a person and I'm determined that I will never go to those dark places again.

 

I guess the message is that no matter how bad things are, it only takes one small event, one change of mindset or one piece of luck and you can beat this horrible illness. 99.9% of the time, there's always a better option. 

[Samilktray]

As a kid I tried a few times to choke myself out, I even wrote letters to say goodbye. In hindsight it certainly was a cry for help, but no one found out and I didn't tell anyone.

About 9 years ago, a very close family member took some pills and I just happened to be back in the UK, I had to drive down to where they were and go to the hospital. They were/are in an abusive relationship and couldn't figure a way out. I was the only one there, so I had to call other family members who were experienced in hospitals etc. It was probably one of the scariest and most defining points of my life. I can't stand the person they are still with, and other family members don't understand this.

Since then, when I've been unhappy and thought about it, I decided to take my own life would be really selfish and would ruin my family. Now, I just drink

Surely it would be impossible to choke yourself out, like wouldn't your body or subconscious would kick in and snap you out of it?

[Merging Cultures]

Surely it would be impossible to choke yourself out, like wouldn't your body or subconscious would kick in and snap you out of it?

Exactly. I was a kid just looking for attention, as my post said.

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[Samilktray]

Exactly. I was a kid just looking for attention, as my post said.

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I wasn't being funny or anything, just enquiring

[ADK]

I think it is about control.

 

Terminally ill people live in fear of a painful death and the uncertainty of what lies ahead.

 

People in debt worry about their future, will they lose their home and possessions?

 

People who have no job feel hopeless.

 

Those who care for a dying relative feel helpless to save them.

 

Social interactions help us to retain control over our lives. Loving parents, loyal friends, pets, partners, children, colleagues, so if we allow our social interactions to be dominated by one entity then we become vulnerable if something happens to them or that interaction breaks down.

 

I think most of what we categorise as "mental illness" could be cured by a more cohesive society and giving people more control over their lives. I think if somebody is aware of something that will bring them happiness and knows what they need to be doing at the lowest level then they will choose to do that over suicide.

 

I'm sceptical that drugs and "cbt" are particularly effective solutions although they may help in some cases.

[Lionator]

I'm sceptical that drugs and "cbt" are particularly effective solutions although they may help in some cases.

 

Imo from experiences, drugs are a temporary fix, they never get to the root cause.

 

CBT gives you the tools to beat it, but you still need the energy and chance to put those tools into play.