Jattdogg Posted 10 May 2018 Share Posted 10 May 2018 3 hours ago, martyn said: Mexico is generally safe for Tourists - irrespective of what the Canadian travel advisories might have you believe off the back of some murders of Canadian citizens a while back. I've spent about 6 months there across 12 visits and 20 different states as a tourist and have never encountered any issues anywhere. Of the mooted host cities, Mexico City and Guadalajara are statistically safer than a bunch of US cities and although Monterrey can be a bit sketchy, there is no more danger present than was at the World Cup in Brazil for example. No matches are going to be held in Cartelville. Although it doesn't matter to FIFA these days, of the 3 countries as part of this bid, Mexico has the best football history, and the most iconic stadium by a distance, it should be front and centre of the bid. I dont discount that a few bad apples spoil it and statistically your more likely to be killed by a car accident or something. But im a safe guy and the risk is still higher for my liking. Mexican football culture is way better than here or the united states thats an absolute given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSi13 Posted 10 May 2018 Share Posted 10 May 2018 So if Mexico are allowed it. That will be the 3rd time they've hosted the World Cup since England have. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 11 May 2018 Share Posted 11 May 2018 May as well sack off the CONCACAF qualifiers if that's the case. You'd think USA or Canada would be big enough to host it on their own, even with 48 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 11 May 2018 Share Posted 11 May 2018 I agree with Blatter in a way for once. No need for joint bids, all these countries have proven they can host major sporting events on their own. If it was two smaller nations I could accept it, but not with three huge nations bidding together. Also, for me it's still too soon after the USA hosted the world cup. Especially since places like England haven't hosted it in over 50 years. Plus Mexico have hosted it twice in that time (I know there were exceptional circumstance second time). Other huge nations have never hosted it, like Australia, China etc. It's been years since Argentina or Spain have had it. So any bid involving the usa atm is a no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 (edited) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/08/sports/worldcup/fifa-vote-world-cup-2026-host.html The vote is tomorrow and a Morocco victory is far from out of the question. Presumably African and probably Asian countries will vote en bloc for the Morocco bid? Edited 12 June 2018 by stripeyfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 I fully expect Morocco to win the bid, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 44 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said: I fully expect Morocco to win the bid, sadly. Awww, I wanted to see Diana Ross gain redemption, finally nail that penalty, and then go batshit crazy à la Stuart Pearce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballwipe Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 Not going to lie I'm rooting for Morocco based on my English bitterness of countries hosting the World Cup multiple times ahead of us, and the fact their time zone is much preferable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 On 10/05/2018 at 23:56, BlueSi13 said: So if Mexico are allowed it. That will be the 3rd time they've hosted the World Cup since England have. Crazy. 1986 Mexico stood in for Colombia. 2026 - they would get just three stadiums hosting. 2 hours ago, stripeyfox said: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/08/sports/worldcup/fifa-vote-world-cup-2026-host.html The vote is tomorrow and a Morocco victory is far from out of the question. Presumably African and probably Asian countries will vote en bloc for the Morocco bid? I don't have an issue with Morocco hosting it. It's a country what loves football. There's actually a third option to this - FIFA can declare they don't find either bid suitable. There's speculation that China are sniffing out this option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 On 10/05/2018 at 23:56, BlueSi13 said: So if Mexico are allowed it. That will be the 3rd time they've hosted the World Cup since England have. Crazy. Yes, but not quite. The hosted 1986 only after Colombia pulled out. The 2026 bid includes only 10 of the 80 odd games planned, and none after the L16 round. Given that USA could easily host the tournament on it's own, the cynic in me says Mexico and Canada are only part of the bid to deflect some of the negative publicity against USA from just about everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 You've got to laugh at us failing with 2 bids and Morocco swooping in for a World Cup. Obviously I don't know enough about Morocco to criticise it is a nation, but along with South Africa, Brazil and Qatar they'll surely be left with 8 or 9 massive unused stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: 1986 Mexico stood in for Colombia. 2026 - they would get just three stadiums hosting. I don't have an issue with Morocco hosting it. It's a country what loves football. There's actually a third option to this - FIFA can declare they don't find either bid suitable. There's speculation that China are sniffing out this option. There's quite a few issues with Morocco's bid. FIFA's inspectors labeled them as having high risk for stadiums (they need to spend 16 billion dollars to overhaul/build the stadiums required to host the world cup), transportation and infrastructure. Morocco has also criminalized homosexuality. I'm not sure how FIFA on one hand can try act like it is against racist and homophobic discrimination, and then award a world cup to a country that imprisons gay people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 I want Morocco tbf, be nice to have another African world cup. Plus yanks had one only 20 odd years ago, Canada would be easily the worst host nation going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 49 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said: There's quite a few issues with Morocco's bid. FIFA's inspectors labeled them as having high risk for stadiums (they need to spend 16 billion dollars to overhaul/build the stadiums required to host the world cup), transportation and infrastructure. Morocco has also criminalized homosexuality. I'm not sure how FIFA on one hand can try act like it is against racist and homophobic discrimination, and then award a world cup to a country that imprisons gay people. Well they did award a world cup to Qatar, a country with questionable human rights, with no football history as such and with such a harsh climate that they need to shift it to Christmas so I guess anything is possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 1 hour ago, Detroit Blues said: There's quite a few issues with Morocco's bid. FIFA's inspectors labeled them as having high risk for stadiums (they need to spend 16 billion dollars to overhaul/build the stadiums required to host the world cup), transportation and infrastructure. Morocco has also criminalized homosexuality. I'm not sure how FIFA on one hand can try act like it is against racist and homophobic discrimination, and then award a world cup to a country that imprisons gay people. The stadiums, transportation and infrastructure is at the risk of their country. The World Cup will can act as a break of barriers and FIFA love that kind of ‘ability’ to prove. Morocco’s attitude gets more attention and the country has to shift attitudes. Lets be honest as it stands certain teams would not be able to enter the US to play in World Cup there. Would that happen? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 40 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: The stadiums, transportation and infrastructure is at the risk of their country. The World Cup will can act as a break of barriers and FIFA love that kind of ‘ability’ to prove. Morocco’s attitude gets more attention and the country has to shift attitudes. Lets be honest as it stands certain teams would not be able to enter the US to play in World Cup there. Would that happen? Never. I just don't like to see a country waste 16 billion dollars on stadiums that will never get used again when it could be invested into something better. There are plenty of other countries that have the infrastructure in place to host a world cup. To put that in perspective, that's nearly 12% of Morocco's GDP. The equivalent would be if the England invested $300B into their world cup bid. That's enough to run the NHS for a couple years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 4 hours ago, Detroit Blues said: I just don't like to see a country waste 16 billion dollars on stadiums that will never get used again when it could be invested into something better. There are plenty of other countries that have the infrastructure in place to host a world cup. To put that in perspective, that's nearly 12% of Morocco's GDP. The equivalent would be if the England invested $300B into their world cup bid. That's enough to run the NHS for a couple years It does seem crazy but it is all down to the individual federations now. I guess, in the end, it will come down to money. An American lead WC will likely generate lots more profit than a Moroccan one and a share of that money filters down to each country. For some of the poorest federations, that might swing the vote in favour of the US lead bid. But who knows? Will be very interesting to see. looking further ahead 2030 seems to be a contest between a Uruguay/Argentina joint bid and a possible (probable) bid from England which already has the support of many in Europe, including the German FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 As a Moroccan, I want this so much. Americans do not deserve it. Some Americans are very ignorant about the game, and they also have very horrid views about the rest of the world. Obviously not all, but the percentage is sadly increasing. We are passionate for football and we deserve it. We have tried 5 TIMES and have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 12 June 2018 Share Posted 12 June 2018 1 hour ago, NasPb said: As a Moroccan, I want this so much. Americans do not deserve it. Some Americans are very ignorant about the game, and they also have very horrid views about the rest of the world. Obviously not all, but the percentage is sadly increasing. We are passionate for football and we deserve it. We have tried 5 TIMES and have failed. definitely no ignorance here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 13 June 2018 Share Posted 13 June 2018 6 hours ago, NasPb said: As a Moroccan, I want this so much. Americans do not deserve it. Some Americans are very ignorant about the game, and they also have very horrid views about the rest of the world. Obviously not all, but the percentage is sadly increasing. We are passionate for football and we deserve it. We have tried 5 TIMES and have failed. I understand why you want it so much. But I'm not sure your bid stands out for the reasons you mention. The "United" bid is crazy on a number of levels, primarily for having three host nations, each of which is capable of hosting the tournament outright. To occupy three qualifying places is crazy. Mexico always qualify, USA generally do, but Canada are poor - just like a massive Scotland. The Moroccan bid will require massive investment in infrastructure - not just stadiums but everything supporting the bid. Around 16% of GDP is the quoted figure, although these estimates are usually under what is actually spent. The Moroccan bid got a boost last night when it was revealed that four US territories (Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands) will abstain from voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 13 June 2018 Share Posted 13 June 2018 Fifa World Cup 2026: Canada, US & Mexico v Morocco One side has David Beckham lobbying and Donald Trump menacing on social media. The other is promising a "European" World Cup in Africa. But who will prevail on Wednesday when a vote is taken to decide on the hosts of the 2026 Fifa World Cup? Morocco and a combined 'United Bid' between the United States, Canada, and Mexico are fighting for the right to stage the biggest World Cup ever held - with 48 teams playing 80 matches over 34 days. After the controversial award of the 2018 and 2022 tournaments to Russia and Qatar respectively, Fifa has promised a "more open and transparent" vote this time. But what are the two bids offering? How will the vote work? And who is going to host the World Cup in eight years' time? More here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44428947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 13 June 2018 Share Posted 13 June 2018 From NY Times (not verified) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 13 June 2018 Share Posted 13 June 2018 (edited) From Richard Conway (last night) Edited 13 June 2018 by stripeyfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 13 June 2018 Share Posted 13 June 2018 (edited) Edited 13 June 2018 by Ian Nacho Already a thread... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 13 June 2018 Share Posted 13 June 2018 United States - Canada - Mexico bid wins vote 134 - 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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