WigstonWanderer Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 What happened to Elliott Moore? Reports he was looking promising at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamafox Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 No way in hell is Gibson worth £30 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 2 minutes ago, iamafox said: No way in hell is Gibson worth £30 million No player is worth their pricetag these days unfortunately, especially young english CB's Days of wheeling and dealing are numbered for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 6 minutes ago, Koke said: Agree. Though we've produced 4 players in just over a decade from the academy, who have been any good at PL level. Stearman, King, Schlupp and Chilwell. 4 in 12 years is 1 every 3 seasons, which is alright I suppose. Sorry but I find those statistics shocking and depressing. They may be par for the course or about average these days, but I'll always use the Man Utd 'class of '92' as the benchmark for bringing youth through he ranks and we're a million miles away from that... 2 minutes ago, STUHILL said: I've got high hopes for Harvey Barnes too. A season in the championship and he could be ready to make a real impact for us, judging by how great he is doing at MK About time we produced another top player, although you are right on Chilwell and he could still turn out to be a first team regular at some point I played golf with a couple of MK Dons ST holders last week and they were raving about him. Not quite in the Dele Ali bracket for them, but they reckon he could definitely be an accomplished Championship player right now. Time will tell if he'll end up a PL regular I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 I was impressed with Kara Mbodji again tonight. Seems extremely strong and athletic for a CB. Didn't we have a bid of about 10 million rejected for him in January? Maybe another decent option for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 I'd have paid 20 mil for Keane , last year. Ben Gibson 30 mil, we are having laugh or what....!!! But thats life, or better said the football world of today. Well the PL madness at least. Ffs He aint worth it, but it just might be the going rate for the PL from now on. Vardy must be worth 50mil.he'll end up with the fastest walking frame in the PL. Mahrez 60-70mil. Who knows...is it now worth caring ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 2 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: I'd have paid 20 mil for Keane , last year. Ben Gibson 30 mil, we are having laugh or what....!!! But thats life, or better said the football world of today. Well the PL madness at least. Ffs He aint worth it, but it just might be the going rate for the PL from now on. Vardy must be worth 50mil.he'll end up with the fastest walking frame in the PL. Mahrez 60-70mil. Who knows...is it now worth caring ???? If Gibson is valued at £30 million, imagine what Burnley would be demanding for Keane now. Probably £40 million! The valuations these days are just off the charts, but like you said, we didn't pay for Keane last summer and I think that was a mistake, so perhaps we need to pay these over inflated prices, to progress at the rate we want to. I would imagine the upfront cost wouldn't be as much as £30 million, maybe £20 and add ons, as he will want out and to be put on decent wages with us and helps when your Uncle is the chairman and you want a move away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollism Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 He's worth going after but I'll be frustrated if we pay £30m for him. Boro are heading down and he is better than the championship by a long way. There's no bloody way they should be holding us to ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 30 effing million?! Actually it isn't my money I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 Here is the essential youtube video guys At least he will be quicker than Huth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardinio'sCat Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 1 hour ago, sdb said: Hold up. £30 mill?! Puts Slim's price tag into perspective doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 24 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Sorry but I find those statistics shocking and depressing. They may be par for the course or about average these days, but I'll always use the Man Utd 'class of '92' as the benchmark for bringing youth through he ranks and we're a million miles away from that... I played golf with a couple of MK Dons ST holders last week and they were raving about him. Not quite in the Dele Ali bracket for them, but they reckon he could definitely be an accomplished Championship player right now. Time will tell if he'll end up a PL regular I guess.. There will never be another class of 92 again. You cannot set that as a standard to compare yourself against. In reality, our academy has done ok, better than many, but not close to the top clubs. We have made over 30 million in transfer fees since 2000 from academy players, had many players play well in the top two divisions and players play International football. We currently regularly have 2 academy players in our match day squad, and could have another next season. Back to Gibson, quality signing and exactly what we need, a young English centre back with a left foot. Yes 30 mil is ott, but what player isn't overvalued these days, with the TV deal in place he is easily affordable and won't need time to settle in to a new league. gerrremmiinnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 32 minutes ago, STUHILL said: I was impressed with Kara Mbodji again tonight. Seems extremely strong and athletic for a CB. Didn't we have a bid of about 10 million rejected for him in January? Maybe another decent option for us Was thinking the same, looked decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Forget the price tag, as a club what else do they do with the money from sky, put it into a savings account? The owners wouldn't want it, it's just more tax they would have to pay. It has to be spent on either players or the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 3 hours ago, Webbo said: 30 effing million?! Actually it isn't my money I don't care. Well strictly speaking, if you're supporting the club by buying tickets / TV subscriptions / other related items, transfer fees are a factor into determining the price you ultimately pay for these things - so indirectly, it is your money. Hate to say it - but football and the Premier League could do with a massive crash to bring things back into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Get him in... should have got Keane last summer to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mint23 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 He's more than twice the player Schlupp is so £30m doesn't sound too silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 1 minute ago, Mint23 said: He's more than twice the player Schlupp is so £30m doesn't sound too silly If Schlupp is the benchmark, it's a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Can we sign him before Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 8 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Sorry but I find those statistics shocking and depressing. They may be par for the course or about average these days, but I'll always use the Man Utd 'class of '92' as the benchmark for bringing youth through he ranks and we're a million miles away from that... I played golf with a couple of MK Dons ST holders last week and they were raving about him. Not quite in the Dele Ali bracket for them, but they reckon he could definitely be an accomplished Championship player right now. Time will tell if he'll end up a PL regular I guess.. "Sorry but I find those statistics shocking and depressing. They may be par for the course or about average these days, but I'll always use the Man Utd 'class of '92' as the benchmark for bringing youth through he ranks and we're a million miles away from that... " So are Man.U. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 30 fackin million?! I was thinking 15-20 Go to the Bundesliga where there are quality CBs for a fraction of the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 8 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Sorry but I find those statistics shocking and depressing. They may be par for the course or about average these days, but I'll always use the Man Utd 'class of '92' as the benchmark for bringing youth through he ranks and we're a million miles away from that... I played golf with a couple of MK Dons ST holders last week and they were raving about him. Not quite in the Dele Ali bracket for them, but they reckon he could definitely be an accomplished Championship player right now. Time will tell if he'll end up a PL regular I guess.. You use the greatest single collection of youngsters to come through an academy together as a benchmark you think we should be reaching?!? Don't want much do you! There will never be another group like that and whilst I agree we could bring more through expecting half a team in one go is a bit much. Also another way of looking at it is whilst the class of 92 was a great thing, what then? It was all at once and then nothing. I'd rather be regularly producing them than have lots and nothing for 25 years. Rashford must be the first to break through since the 92 group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachyboy Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 8 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Wouldn't it be nice if we could bring a young English CB through our own academy system into our first team instead of paying £30m to another club who's done just that. I believe that's why they held onto Liam Moore so long in the hope, he would develop, aware of the impending future problems in that area, he may yet do, but unfortunately it wasn't quick enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Lingaard, Pogba and that's just players I can think of that play regularly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 1 minute ago, filbertway said: Lingaard, Pogba and that's just players I can think of that play regularly now. Lingard I'll give you. Pogba no. They sold him and resigned him for a world record fee, that's hardly bringing through your own player and developing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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