Steve_Walsh5 Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 When did it become illegal for footballers to bet? I remember 4/5 years ago David Nugent would regularly tweet what accas he was having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty98 Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 He bet on games he was involved in, don't feel sorry for him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 Horrible man lovely result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 4 minutes ago, matty98 said: He bet on games he was involved in, don't feel sorry for him at all. 46 minutes ago, glenny_fox said: If it was the case that every bet was placed on a match that had no relevance whatsoever to him then yes I would have a bit of sympathy for him but the fact that some of the bets directly involved matches he was playing in (him to be first goalscorer etc) then he deserves all he gets. To bet on something that could change the outcome of the game is clearly just match fixing. Everything I've seen states that that's exactly what he DIDNT do. He only placed bets on his own teams on a small percentage of occasions, and of those it was only ever matches that he wasn't in the matchday squad for. He argues that he had no influence over the result of his bet (which is slightly questionable, but still), but maintains he never placed a bet which he had the ability to influence the outcome of. The FA seems to agree, hence why that's not what he was charged with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty98 Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 2 minutes ago, Xen said: Everything I've seen states that that's exactly what he DIDNT do. He only placed bets on his own teams on a small percentage of occasions, and of those it was only ever matches that he wasn't in the matchday squad for. He argues that he had no influence over the result of his bet (which is slightly questionable, but still), but maintains he never placed a bet which he had the ability to influence the outcome of. The FA seems to agree, hence why that's not what he was charged with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 23 minutes ago, matty98 said: Fair enough, didn't see that because it wouldn't load up on my phone. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiffToff88 Posted 26 April 2017 Author Share Posted 26 April 2017 Looking at his win/loss record, i would definitely not take gambling tips from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 love how he bet on himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 God, he's even worse at gambling than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznan34 Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 1 hour ago, matty98 said: So that first bet is him betting on a teammate not to score first in a game he was playing in?! Only £5 but still very dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 That's his career stubbed out. Yeah it's harsh, but he is a complete asshat, so what goes around, etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 2 hours ago, matty98 said: I thought I was shite at betting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 £5 bets this is mental honestly what self respecting footballer has £5 bets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 His explanation is fvcking shit. This isn't even about him being a gambling addict, this is about the context of certain bets he's made, It's not the FAs fault he can't stop gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 April 2017 Share Posted 26 April 2017 been a bit of an unpleasant chap at times; but his 'four ugly girls' comment, and the fallout from it, was classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck'em Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 11 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Look at the amounts involved against the clubs he was playing for!!! Hahahahaa as if that's match fixing then he's a prat, he'd have got 100,000 that from proper corrupt organisations. Also, not once did he feature in any of the games apparently. Betting in professional football is a huge grey area at the minute and yes they need to lay the law down but this is laughable. It's not a grey area. No footballer in the top 8 divisions of English football can bet on ANY football match. There is no ambiguity at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 13 hours ago, Kitchandro said: His explanation is fvcking shit. This isn't even about him being a gambling addict, this is about the context of certain bets he's made, It's not the FAs fault he can't stop gambling. Gambling is an addiction just like drugs, cigarettes, alcohol... Yet gambling is plastered all over - especially in football... All these adverts and sponsors need to stop. So yeah the FA need to do something to stop all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 25 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Gambling is an addiction just like drugs, cigarettes, alcohol... Yet gambling is plastered all over - especially in football... All these adverts and sponsors need to stop. So yeah the FA need to do something to stop all this. Agree. Barton is correct about football's "unhealthy" relationship with betting. Gambling ads are everywhere in the game. Half of PL clubs have betting companies on their shirts. Entire stadiums are named after betting companies. The ads during televised matches are constant. My son (9) is already asking at games "shall we bet on the goalscorer" and I rarely bet so it must be the influence of the advertising. It's crazy. Football clubs and leagues are feathering their nest with gambling money and then not supporting those who become addicted to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 i dont get it i really dont if your told not to bet of the football and you are addicted to gambling why not just bet on something that isnt going to make you lose your job that funds your addiction?! Surely like saying to a someone addicted to booze ''you can drink what ever you like as long as its not vodka and i mean ANYTHING else" The amount of things you can bet on is ridiculous plus if he didnt want to get caught just get someone else to put your bets on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterlad1989 Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 6 minutes ago, goose2010 said: i dont get it i really dont if your told not to bet of the football and you are addicted to gambling why not just bet on something that isnt going to make you lose your job that funds your addiction?! Surely like saying to a someone addicted to booze ''you can drink what ever you like as long as its not vodka and i mean ANYTHING else" The amount of things you can bet on is ridiculous plus if he didnt want to get caught just get someone else to put your bets on! I think the key phrase is the word 'addiction.' I can't speak for addicts when I say this but I'd imagine that when you are addicted to something, there's no voice of reason in your head in which it decides what's right or wrong to bet on. I'd imagine that it's all about the buzz, similar to those who are addicted to drugs for example. I'd imagine knowing that it's wrong, would give him an even greater buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 16 minutes ago, leicesterlad1989 said: I think the key phrase is the word 'addiction.' I can't speak for addicts when I say this but I'd imagine that when you are addicted to something, there's no voice of reason in your head in which it decides what's right or wrong to bet on. I'd imagine that it's all about the buzz, similar to those who are addicted to drugs for example. I'd imagine knowing that it's wrong, would give him an even greater buzz. Yeah i totally get that about the buzz but surely football isnt something they would get the buzz from. Horses, dogs casinos i get but football? Takes too long for a small win especially with some of his bets, to me it just looks like Barton has bet on football in more of a rebelious way, as in they have told me i cant do it so i am going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterlad1989 Posted 27 April 2017 Share Posted 27 April 2017 2 minutes ago, goose2010 said: Yeah i totally get that about the buzz but surely football isnt something they would get the buzz from. Horses, dogs casinos i get but football? Takes too long for a small win especially with some of his bets, to me it just looks like Barton has bet on football in more of a rebelious way, as in they have told me i cant do it so i am going to do it. I'm talking more in general than just Barton's case. I don't like the man so my opinion on him would be too bias! To addicts it's not always about the amount of money you place or you win, it's just the buzz of putting on the bet and waiting for the result to come in, depending on what you bet on. I'd imagine the number of bets addicts put on would tally up with that view. Rather than chasing the money, they chase the buzz. I could be wrong though. You are possibly right about Barton though, I'd imagine his rebellious streak probably had an influence on him better on football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 28 April 2017 Share Posted 28 April 2017 So he bet on himself to score 11 years ago, pretty sure there was no rules against that back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 28 April 2017 Share Posted 28 April 2017 3 hours ago, filbertway said: So he bet on himself to score 11 years ago, pretty sure there was no rules against that back then? the old rule (not sure how far back it goes) was you can't bet on any competition you're involved in. the new rule is you can't bet at all on football I think. hence why people like nuge & gally used to tweet their accas accas and all their selections would be prem, league 1 and league 2 as they had no involvement in them competitions. Id assume betting on yourself has probably always been a bit dodgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 28 April 2017 Share Posted 28 April 2017 1 minute ago, ScouseFox said: the old rule (not sure how far back it goes) was you can't bet on any competition you're involved in. the new rule is you can't bet at all on football I think. hence why people like nuge & gally used to tweet their accas accas and all their selections would be prem, league 1 and league 2 as they had no involvement in them competitions. Id assume betting on yourself has probably always been a bit dodgy Haha fair one I suppose, though I find it hard to take it too seriously with the stakes he's had. The new football rule is just pure laziness from the FA though. I think you should be banned from betting on your level but that's all. Most probably just have a bet through their mates if they want to in all fairness, just makes it a bit more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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