Stevosevic Posted 24 June 2017 Share Posted 24 June 2017 he had duds He wanted Slimani, Musa etc.... who we all want to see the back of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhermon Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 They bought our scout we bought an entire club and its network check mate Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechey Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 1 hour ago, Stevosevic said: He wanted Slimani, Musa etc.... who we all want to see the back of Speaking for yourself there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 7 hours ago, SpazticChicken said: Says in the article, Scandinavia scout Ole Nielsen. Likely responsible for Amartey and Daniel Iversen No big loss then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 Would we have gone through with paying that much for Slimani and Musa if he was still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclenobhead Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 5 hours ago, Stevosevic said: he had duds He wanted Slimani, Musa etc.... who we all want to see the back of Musa maybe if someone will stump up what we paid for him but I don't want slimani to go anywhere, Thought he was adjusting ok last season and I think he will really push on this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 10 hours ago, Babylon said: Think we'll survive considering we've signed nothing amazing from that area. ABBA were good though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 2 hours ago, Unclenobhead said: Musa maybe if someone will stump up what we paid for him but I don't want slimani to go anywhere, Thought he was adjusting ok last season and I think he will really push on this year If Slimani can get a good run in the side and stay fit (he always seems to be injured), with the right service he'd get 12-15 goals in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 6 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Would we have gone through with paying that much for Slimani and Musa if he was still there? The rumour I read was that Walsh liked Slimani but felt he wasn't value for money once the transfer free hit £15m plus. Just to say - scouts don't have contracts with clubs. They paid solely per each trip. There will be two or three scouts on the books and that's it. Equally they can be poached like this but then if a manager has his own staff they sacked without compo. That's how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 I think we talk about Steve Walsh snr too much on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 He'll get the boot at Everton at the end of next season when they sell Lukaku and Barkley and don't really replace them well enough and finish between 7th and 10th. Koeman blamed him last season and will do so again at the earliest opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclenobhead Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 26 minutes ago, Tuna said: I think we talk about Steve Walsh snr too much on here. The Thread is titled "Steve Walsh Snr" Where do you want to talk about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes1 Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 14 hours ago, Babylon said: Think we'll survive considering we've signed nothing amazing from that area. Daniel Amartey came from Scandanavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 Just now, Foxes1 said: Daniel Amartey came from Scandanavia. I'm not sure that counters my point really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 Everton will finish about 10th. Europe is going to hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 20 hours ago, stevelcfc said: Rather than getting annoyed at Everton or Walsh at poaching our best backroom talent, how about we look internally and ask A) Why they want to move and B) Why are we letting them go so freely? Your're perfectly right the mistake was with the Club. He was on a four year contract and should have been requested to honor it. It's my belief that two things caused Walsh to leave. 1 was the appoint of Rudkin over his head. 2 Friction between him and probably Claudio over targets. It's common knowledge that he had to battle for Kante to be signed when Claudio wanted Mendy. Then when we signed Mendy and let Kante go he felt there's no point in continuing here I'm not appreciated. Either Susan Whelan or the Owners should have stepped in and sorted it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 Yawwwwwn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilLCFC Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 7 hours ago, Clever Fox said: Your're perfectly right the mistake was with the Club. He was on a four year contract and should have been requested to honor it. It's my belief that two things caused Walsh to leave. 1 was the appoint of Rudkin over his head. 2 Friction between him and probably Claudio over targets. It's common knowledge that he had to battle for Kante to be signed when Claudio wanted Mendy. Then when we signed Mendy and let Kante go he felt there's no point in continuing here I'm not appreciated. Either Susan Whelan or the Owners should have stepped in and sorted it out. Should have got rid of Ranieri at the point and kept Walsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfosse Posted 25 June 2017 Share Posted 25 June 2017 I'm a massive fan of Walsh, always have been and always will be, but surely it's time to let go now. We can't keep going over what should have been and what might have been. It's over, he's made his decision to leave. We're left with no alternative but to move on as best we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 26 June 2017 Share Posted 26 June 2017 17 hours ago, Clever Fox said: Your're perfectly right the mistake was with the Club. He was on a four year contract and should have been requested to honor it. It's my belief that two things caused Walsh to leave. 1 was the appoint of Rudkin over his head. 2 Friction between him and probably Claudio over targets. It's common knowledge that he had to battle for Kante to be signed when Claudio wanted Mendy. Then when we signed Mendy and let Kante go he felt there's no point in continuing here I'm not appreciated. Either Susan Whelan or the Owners should have stepped in and sorted it out. It's just come to me now but I remember watching an interview with Ranieri and Walsh after the Premier League trophy was awarded after the Everton home match. Walsh said they wanted to stick to the same model of signing up and coming players rather than ready made players. It was obvious in May 2016 that he seen his future at Leicester but it appears within a couple of months he changed his mind and was now "homesick". As I've said before I'm not buying that as a reason after he's lived a fairly nomadic lifestyle all of his life and I'm sure his job doesn't entail him being in the office five days a week from 9-5 and he could still live in Lancashire and commute to Leicester a couple of times a week. If someone is that important to your company that has a £100m+ turnover per year living a two hour drive away isn't a problem. If I was the owner and I considered him that important I'd let him work from home and helicopter him in when he needs to be at Leicester. I suspect the real reason he left was because he was being undermined by Ranieri or possibly Rudkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 26 June 2017 Share Posted 26 June 2017 9 hours ago, Gerard said: It's just come to me now but I remember watching an interview with Ranieri and Walsh after the Premier League trophy was awarded after the Everton home match. Walsh said they wanted to stick to the same model of signing up and coming players rather than ready made players. It was obvious in May 2016 that he seen his future at Leicester but it appears within a couple of months he changed his mind and was now "homesick". As I've said before I'm not buying that as a reason after he's lived a fairly nomadic lifestyle all of his life and I'm sure his job doesn't entail him being in the office five days a week from 9-5 and he could still live in Lancashire and commute to Leicester a couple of times a week. If someone is that important to your company that has a £100m+ turnover per year living a two hour drive away isn't a problem. If I was the owner and I considered him that important I'd let him work from home and helicopter him in when he needs to be at Leicester. I suspect the real reason he left was because he was being undermined by Ranieri or possibly Rudkin. Yes I agree with you totally. The problem a I see it was that neither the Owners or Susan Whelan are '' Football people'' in knowing the game and therefore failed to understand his real value and worth to the Club. In fairness to them it's probably the only big mistake they made since taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sionnach gorm Posted 27 June 2017 Share Posted 27 June 2017 Seems to me Walsh wants the men he trusted next to him (and I certainly wouldn't lame him for that). Seems like a poach to me. Tbh, I agree with many here. Go! There are others out there that can do your job...maybe even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sionnach gorm Posted 27 June 2017 Share Posted 27 June 2017 Oh, and I don't buy for a second that Walsh left because he was being undermined. He left because he wanted to...I don't believe anyone drove him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 27 June 2017 Share Posted 27 June 2017 On 24/06/2017 at 18:28, Rob1742 said: He did leave us the best position, and people are free to move jobs. Normal situation that that happens everywhere every day Really? Lining up those signings of last Summer: Musa, Hernandez and before that Slimani? Funny how he left us with all the shit ones! Genius. Or are the Thais a bit soft to let people out of contracts so easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 27 June 2017 Share Posted 27 June 2017 We couldn't exactly say to Walsh "no, you can't leave, you're stuck here for the next 4 years, but go and continue finding us gems" It's not like players who sulk and obviously play badly. A scout whose heart is not in his job, there could be very expensive duds as a result. No doubt friction with Claudio contributed to it, but maybe, like Appleton, he fancied a new challenge. Now he gets to buy multiple players for 20-30m in addition to his usual cheap gems. He can test his eye on a different kind of market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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