HighPeakFox Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 I've never played FM 2017 (or whatever year) - what's it like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 8 hours ago, st albans fox said: The consensus is to drop the captain - but does shakey have the bottle ?? Well if he hasn't, then his managerial tenure at the KP will be very short. It is beyond me how this aspect of the defense has not been resolved.. Having slow lumps at the back is a thing of the past in the EPL.. Far to many quick footed forwards spread across the league now.. . Not many teams resort to lumping in high balls anymore apart from WBA and Stoke.. We need to replace now as we cannot wait for this young lad from Chester to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbylcfc Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 I love the sound of a Huth/Maguire partnership I know Huth ain't the youngest but what a player to learn from. Morgan needs to be dropped I'm afraid he just hasn't been on it for a while now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 8 hours ago, Captain... said: One poor game against a world class attack and you're all writing him off. Fvcks sake people our title winning captain deserves a little more credit. This is his first competitive game in a while, with a new partner, against Ozil, Lacazette, Welbeck, Giroud. Didn't have a great game but he is still more than good enough to play against the majority of this league. This goes back further he looked out his depth 3 years ago. Until huth came in an organised and led the back 4 he was pants. He's not a leader and despite agreeing with most that both was and huth are about on their last legs. Huth is the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 12 August 2017 Author Share Posted 12 August 2017 And assuming he does drop Morgan - does that mean he goes onto the bench. Our bench looks strong now and can we afford a one dimensional centre half to occupy one spot ?? And btw, I'm not dissing wes - just being realistic tough one !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Next Year Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 57mil spent this window and still the defence is running around like headless chickens, Morgan, Huth are done Simpson needs competition . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 To be fair to Wes the first goal was arguably Maguire's fault. When the cross came in Maguire was ball watching and had let his man drift into space behind him leaving Wes in pretty much a 2 on 1. When you watch the replay Wes spots this and decides to stand off Lacazette to try and place himself between both men which leaves Lacazette with the space to head in. He maybe shouldn't have left his man but he was put into that situation by Harry's lack of concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said: Huth simply isn't good enough. The one thing Wes has Got is a bit (a tiny bit) of pace when he gets going. Huth and maguire are slow as shit. We need to go in for someone like Ogbonna, Geoff Cameron or Adil rami (not fast but his positioning and leadership make up for it) Huth isn't good enough and needs replacing by Geoff Cameron. That is absolutely ridiculous. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico1958 Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 So it's all Morgans fault Was I watching a different game, I'd like to know how many blocks he made compared to some of the others We had one CB covering two for the first goal, I'm pretty sure Simpson or Maguire should have helped him out Yep he's getting older but the guy put's his body on the line for the Team when he plays. It will be interesting to see Maguire learn his trade with Huth. But in defence of Morgan. He did the best that he could do .... give the guy a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzerfox Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 Is Maguire's natural position right centre back though? I know Huth prefers left centre back, but if that's maguires natural position too then it will be Morgan and one of Maguire & Huth. For what it's worth, Morgan has been immense for us. A man mountain, he was out at the back end of last season so it might have just been a bit of ring rust. Although us fans don't like to accept it, but EVERY player has an off day. We just hope every player doesn't have an off day at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 12 August 2017 Author Share Posted 12 August 2017 27 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: So it's all Morgans fault Was I watching a different game, I'd like to know how many blocks he made compared to some of the others We had one CB covering two for the first goal, I'm pretty sure Simpson or Maguire should have helped him out Yep he's getting older but the guy put's his body on the line for the Team when he plays. It will be interesting to see Maguire learn his trade with Huth. But in defence of Morgan. He did the best that he could do .... give the guy a break Fair enough - so we are going to drop maguire then? Don't think so and our record with/without Huth is pretty clear I think. Huth seems to organise things around him better than wes i wouldn't be against three at the back if riyad leaves - infact, even if he stays. Then he would have to earn the right to play in the space up top with proper competition now up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico1958 Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 4 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Fair enough - so we are going to drop maguire then? Don't think so and our record with/without Huth is pretty clear I think. Huth seems to organise things around him better than wes i wouldn't be against three at the back if riyad leaves - infact, even if he stays. Then he would have to earn the right to play in the space up top with proper competition now up there It will be interesting to see Maguire learn his trade with Huth. I wrote Didn't say anything about dropping Maguire in fact he gave us a different outlet in the game. I wouldn't mind the three at the back either it would give him a chance to get forward which he appears to be quite good at We need a younger CB as ours are getting older but I'm not going to blame Morgan for what happened last night either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 49 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: It will be interesting to see Maguire learn his trade with Huth. I wrote Didn't say anything about dropping Maguire in fact he gave us a different outlet in the game. I wouldn't mind the three at the back either it would give him a chance to get forward which he appears to be quite good at We need a younger CB as ours are getting older but I'm not going to blame Morgan for what happened last night either. It's a team game you can't blame one player for what happened last night they all have to take the blame. I do believe that this could be Morgan last season, so we need to get in a CB or even 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisNedry Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 11 hours ago, Captain... said: One poor game against a world class attack and you're all writing him off. Fvcks sake people our title winning captain deserves a little more credit. This is his first competitive game in a while, with a new partner, against Ozil, Lacazette, Welbeck, Giroud. Didn't have a great game but he is still more than good enough to play against the majority of this league. Big Wes is a legend but he was poor most of last season too unfortunately. Huth and Maguire should be the new pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: Fair enough - so we are going to drop maguire then? Don't think so and our record with/without Huth is pretty clear I think. Huth seems to organise things around him better than wes i wouldn't be against three at the back if riyad leaves - infact, even if he stays. Then he would have to earn the right to play in the space up top with proper competition now up there I did not watch last nights game so i wont comment on that. The bit i will comment on though is Wes as captain. As you say we look better organised when Huths on the pitch. Our form is far better with Huth taking charge than when Wes does. Our captain should be able to take charge on the pitch and organise. Sadly Wes can't do that and should never be our captain. And no I don't buy this but in the dressing room shite. The captain should lead on and off the field and wes has never really led the team on the pitch. Yes Wes will put himself infront of a bullet or a train for the team. But he has no idea how to organise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 2 hours ago, Chico1958 said: So it's all Morgans fault Was I watching a different game, I'd like to know how many blocks he made compared to some of the others We had one CB covering two for the first goal, I'm pretty sure Simpson or Maguire should have helped him out Yep he's getting older but the guy put's his body on the line for the Team when he plays. It will be interesting to see Maguire learn his trade with Huth. But in defence of Morgan. He did the best that he could do .... give the guy a break It isn't any single player's fault. But Morgan is miles past his best. He needs replacing and the squad needs freshening up. Too many ageing defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 Well Morgan didn't do himself any favours last night. Capable of the sublime but far too often now we're seeing the ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueBrett Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 People have been saying Wes is 'past it' for years but he proves them wrong time and again with an heroic performance when we need him most. He's still only 33, not exact;y ancient for a centre back. He still has plenty to offer both on and off the pitch imo. I'd still play Huth alongside Maguire though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 Really hope we sign a cb before the window closes. For all the goodness of last night the defence and the shocking substitution ruined what would have been an incredible win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuchingKante Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 13 hours ago, Captain... said: One poor game against a world class attack and you're all writing him off. Fvcks sake people our title winning captain deserves a little more credit. This is his first competitive game in a while, with a new partner, against Ozil, Lacazette, Welbeck, Giroud. Didn't have a great game but he is still more than good enough to play against the majority of this league. It's not one bad game though is it. He's looked out of his depth since the start of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 12 August 2017 Share Posted 12 August 2017 huth and wes are past their sell by date they were garbage last season and that will only get worse with age we need someone new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Share Posted 24 November 2017 Anyone with an update on our best player since he arrived? Watched him play for the U23s months agao and heard nothing since. Is he injured again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 24 November 2017 Share Posted 24 November 2017 Think he is broken. Sell in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 24 November 2017 Share Posted 24 November 2017 I get the feeling this is terminal. Devastating. What a story he had here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 24 November 2017 Share Posted 24 November 2017 Don't think he's even in light training still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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