Chelsea post match 1-2

[chicagofox]

1 hour ago, GaelicFox said:

Shakey isn't good enough 

 

if you think he is your deluded 

 

he isn't a premier league manager 

 

and will be gone before end of season 

 

so many flaws and they are mounting 

 

11 points out of 33/36 available is pathetic !!! 

 

Change needed and quick 

Excellent post.  Well said 

[trabuch]

The criticism for Slimani for missing his chance in the match thread was bizarre. He won the ball off Kante on the edge of the area, played a perfect pass to Mahrez, absolutely bust a gut running nearly the entire length of the pitch and then forced an excellent save out of Courtois. And yet there were people asking for him to be binned.

And he really needed to be on the pitch at the end of the match when the crosses were going in (this seems to be a recurring theme).

[suffolk fox]

what sort of idiotic shambolic decision making was that today?  We were equal with Chelsea had the better of the first half chances Chelsea had one and scored, but we matched them and went in at half time only 1 0 down and very much still in the game.  I couldn't believe what happened at half time.  Out we come and on he brings King and Gray.  Takes off Albrighton and Slimani. Why?

 

Second half we hand them the game as we are overrun in midfield, after matching them in the first half.  Shakespeare  maybe a great coach but he is no way a premier league manager.  If we continue in this vein we will be in a relegation scrap this season.  Shakespeare is tactically out of his depth at this level.  His substitutions are beyond baffling.

 

Our midfield is very weak King, James are not premier league players.  I genuinely feel sorry for Ndidi who has to do the job of three men.

 

 

[suffolk fox]

2 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

Shakey isn't good enough 

 

if you think he is your deluded 

 

he isn't a premier league manager 

 

and will be gone before end of season 

 

so many flaws and they are mounting 

 

11 points out of 33/36 available is pathetic !!! 

 

Change needed and quick 

this x 1000 top post

[Callabinho]

3 hours ago, TheHitman™ said:

 

That wasn't on Iheanacho, that was on Mahrez. Iheanacho only played 20 minutes for the team and you are already criticizing the guy. He needs to get fit and get a run of games before making any judgements. He was actually pretty positive during the game winning the ball and making positive passes. 

 

His pass to Mahrez was shocking, he may as well have taken a shot at him.... as for his positive passing, why not shoot when he tried to play in Vardy, who was never going to get an effort on goal with an angle so tight?

 

Of course he needs time, but he didn't help proceedings today. We lost a game in which we could have easily got something out of had we made the right decisions... I think anyone can be justifiably pissed off after watching that.

[trabuch]

I don't like criticising our manager. So I'll just shut up.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

56 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Sick of hearing how our season wont be defined by results against the top teams.  We're a premier league team.  We cant continue to just write these games off.

 

Look at Stoke.  You wouldn't say they were any better than us but in two games against Arsenal and Man Utd, they've taken 4 points.

 

We are far too negative in these games.

Hear hear. Too right. 

[DelBoy73]

2 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

what sort of idiotic shambolic decision making was that today?  We were equal with Chelsea had the better of the first half chances Chelsea had one and scored, but we matched them and went in at half time only 1 0 down and very much still in the game.  I couldn't believe what happened at half time.  Out we come and on he brings King and Gray.  Takes off Albrighton and Slimani. Why?

 

Second half we hand them the game as we are overrun in midfield, after matching them in the first half.  Shakespeare  maybe a great coach but he is no way a premier league manager.  If we continue in this vein we will be in a relegation scrap this season.  Shakespeare is tactically out of his depth at this level.  His substitutions are beyond baffling.

 

Our midfield is very weak King, James are not premier league players.  I genuinely feel sorry for Ndidi who has to do the job of three men.

 

 

X 1000.

Shakespeare did a good job seeing us out of the relegation battle last season, but after the Arsenil fiasco and today, i am adamant he is out of his depth.

He just has not the balls or the authority to change our system and play his mens to their strength : square pegs in round holes the lot of them.

 

First of all, the top teams have sussed us out, the whole hoofing the ball to Vardy or Mahrez is so damn obsolete since our midfilders are site-seeing from afar. 

 

Secondly, on top of my head,Slimani is a shambolic casting mistake, he doesn't belong to a counter attacking team, period. Shakespeare should have gotten ridd off during this transfer window while his stock market was still valuable and bring in a proper pacey n°9 to partner with Vardy, i swear we seem to play better when Okazaki is in the team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TheHitman™]

20 minutes ago, Callabinho said:

 

His pass to Mahrez was shocking, he may as well have taken a shot at him.... as for his positive passing, why not shoot when he tried to play in Vardy, who was never going to get an effort on goal with an angle so tight?

 

Of course he needs time, but he didn't help proceedings today. We lost a game in which we could have easily got something out of had we made the right decisions... I think anyone can be justifiably pissed off after watching that.

How was it? From what I saw Mahrez lost control of the ball. If you want to talk about shocking, Mahrez was shocking today. Too easily pushed off the ball and too easily dispossessed. It also doesn't help that Gray is selfish as well. 

[Benguin]

Oh god, I can't cope with these post match threads anymore. We lost 2-1 to Chelsea and played reasonably well, it's like we've just lost 6 nill to Doncaster

[Foxhateram]

32 minutes ago, trabuch said:

The criticism for Slimani for missing his chance in the match thread was bizarre. He won the ball off Kante on the edge of the area, played a perfect pass to Mahrez, absolutely bust a gut running nearly the entire length of the pitch and then forced an excellent save out of Courtois. And yet there were people asking for him to be binned.

And he really needed to be on the pitch at the end of the match when the crosses were going in (this seems to be a recurring theme).

I don't want him to be binned, but it's the way he tried to dink it. Vardy and Mahrez were both waiting back across goal. Power it back across, hopefully scoring but giving them a chance for rebounds if not,  rather than a dink that was easily parried away to safety. 

 

Our decision making in the final third was darn right awful today. We need to fix that. 

[kingfox]

1 hour ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Sick of hearing how our season wont be defined by results against the top teams.  We're a premier league team.  We cant continue to just write these games off.

 

Look at Stoke.  You wouldn't say they were any better than us but in two games against Arsenal and Man Utd, they've taken 4 points.

 

We are far too negative in these games.

It won't be though, we aren't expected to get anything against the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea, if you manage even a point against those sides then you class it as an added bonus. You may not agree but right now it's very difficult to judge us until we come up against evenly matched teams, the likes of Everton, Stoke, WBA, Southampton, Watford etc...

 

You may look at us being negative but we haven't disgraced ourselves in those games, we haven't been absolutely battered like we were on numerous occasions last season. Under Shakespeare a considerable change that I have noticed is our shape, so far this season we've looked more compact, we press when we need to press and teams haven't really carved us open like we saw last season. Two lapses in concentration cost us against Arsenal. Man Utd couldn't break us down for 70 minutes, all they really did was cross the ball and take ambitious pot shots. Now today against Chelsea we didn't get embarrassed, we fell to a respectable scoreline and the performance was competitive enough.

 

A point here and there against the big sides would be great, as of right now though 3/12 points was quite frankly to be expected.

[Callabinho]

1 minute ago, TheHitman™ said:

How was it? From what I saw Mahrez lost control of the ball. If you want to talk about shocking, Mahrez was shocking today. Too easily pushed off the ball and too easily dispossessed. It also doesn't help that Gray is selfish as well. 

His pass to him was ridiculous.... Mahrez did bloody well to even control it... and how was he shocking? No ****er moved in front of him.... shocking was the decision to bring that useless shit Andy King on.... I don't give a toss if he's been at the club for so many years...he's shit....

 

Mahrez was fine in the first half, the lads were fine, we switched off once and got punished, and then Shakey goes and changes he world.... Gray is about as useful as a chainsaw dildo, and King does nothing other than arrive late, pass sideways and backwards and pull stupid faces. After half time our tempo vanished, we weren't picking up second balls and Mahrez had nothing to work with, absolutely nothing... so when the only option is to beat the three Chelsea players around him people moan.... it would be alright if someone actually moved to give him an option....

 

We were so static in that second half than even the Statue of Liberty would have a more active heat map. 

[TheHitman™]

I agree with you on Andy King. He is a mid table Championship Midfielder. 

[chicagofox]

17 minutes ago, TheHitman™ said:

I agree with you on Andy King. He is a mid table Championship Midfielder. 

As is Matty James

[trabuch]

22 minutes ago, foxhateram said:

I don't want him to be binned, but it's the way he tried to dink it. Vardy and Mahrez were both waiting back across goal. Power it back across, hopefully scoring but giving them a chance for rebounds if not,  rather than a dink that was easily parried away to safety. 

 

Our decision making in the final third was darn right awful today. We need to fix that. 

Agree about the decision making - although we are too rarely in the final third - so maybe there is an element of panic. But it was very good goalkeeping (well.. better than Kasper's for Kante's trickler). 

[Foxhateram]

9 minutes ago, trabuch said:

Agree about the decision making - although we are too rarely in the final third - so maybe there is an element of panic. But it was very good goalkeeping (well.. better than Kasper's for Kante's trickler). 

There was panic. But professional footballer should do better.   

 

I never dispute Kasper's skills...... Best keeper we have seen here since Banks and Shilton. Love him.

[sly1]

We won the league my god never ever foget .

But what a come down we have be come .

 

[sly1]

I'm sorry we are s $#!t

[jim5000]

After being spoilt with Cambiasso, Kante, and Drinkwater, we are really poor in midfield. James and King are Championship level midfielders, and Ndidi needs to play in a three to unlock his ability.

 

Lets hope Iborra is back soon and they somehow sort out the disaster that is the Silva transfer

[fox_favourite]

Wowser, this thread is quite negative and aggressively so. I'm going to throw a spanner in the works and say we played quite well. There was obviously a difference in class today. You have to think that you look at our bench and who could he have brought on in centre midfield? Since Drinky has left, that is now our weak area. Something had to change as we were struggling with two in there. Poor N'didi was trying to do everything and be everywhere. He looked dead on his feet at the end. 

 

I've read criticism towards Mahrez, with someone labelling him as "shit"?! Again I thought he played well and even busted a gut to get back more often then he has done recently. Chelsea dealt with him well by putting bodies in the way. He was fouled on the edge of the box, which was not given. The ref was unbelievably terrible and highly bias. That drop ball was just embarrassing. But I digress. 

 

What today highlights for me was the need for creative player in the CM. But through no fault of Shakeys, the answer cant play and had to watch. This was quite clearly needed as it was obvious that the only bit of creative play we could muster was on the wings, Chelsea knew this and stop us from creating. We did create chances, but just didn't take them. 

 

James and King aren't going to be creative players. Drinky had the ability to make that one key pass, or start a move off and control the midfield, pull the strings as such. But there isn't anyone on the bench that could do that. These two are simple players, will always just look for the simple rather than the sublime.

 

I find Gray very frustrating to watch, he just seems to make random decisions at the wrong times, then do a moment of brilliance. Whether that's down to coaching, or lack of playing time I don't know. But he just frustrates me. But I do think he's a talented boy, just needs to be more consistent.

 

People asking why Iheanacho didn't start. Remember, he hasn't had a pre season, he's had a injury to his toe that still be an issue, he flinched when someone clipped his foot after he came on, which to me seems to suggest there may still be an issue. 

 

Sorry for the long post but I thought I would put my feelings up. The next game is crucial and today had highlighted the need for the Silva transfer to go through as a high importance! 

 

Try.to stay positive, my friends and remember most of you were in favour of Shakey getting the job. 

[fox_favourite]

1 hour ago, sly1 said:

I'm sorry we are s $#!t

If you think losing 2-1 and being a whisker away from.getting a draw against a team that won the prem last season as "we are $#it", I'm guessing you didn't watch/blanked it out of your memory the seasons leading up to and the season that we got relegated from the Championship. That was when we were $#!t

[Hack]

9 hours ago, Bozman said:

Does anyone else think a loss next week at Hudders and a home defeat to the scouse in the league will put shakey under massive pressure going to Bournmouth...?

Why not just say you hope they sack Shakespeare?  To give proposed results of the next 2 games with the negative is just absurd. Why stop there? It would be like saying if we won both  those games by 3 goals do you think we will sign Shaky for 10 years.  He will not be under pressure a prolonged period of time and only if we are deep in a relegation battle late in the season.

I don't think either will be an issue.

[Stan]

We really do have some twats for 'fans'.

[Callabinho]

It's quite amusing those who air a negative view can be labelled "twats", opinions n' all, but anyone who comes away from that game yesterday content I would like to know why? 

 

There was nothing "quality" about Chelsea's performance, they were average, they didn't put us under pressure like united did, and ultimately their back four was there for the taking...

 

We were frankly pathetic in the final third today, play like that against even Huddersfield and we will come away with nothing.

 

I do apologise if some of us "fans" are pissed off with where we are, but accepting regression when there is no excuse to have even gone backwards baffles me.... since winning the league (apart from a spirited champions league run) we have regressed.... and it's got nothing to do with anyone but ourselves... we've essentially won the jackpot on the euro millions and spaffed it all in one night at the casino. 

 

We are argubally still operating with a small club mentality, and he may be a nice bloke and a decent coach but Shakespeare is not a premier league manager, under his stewardship we will not finish anywhere near the top ten let alone top six. This excuse of "we're only Leicester" is a poor one, a very poor one... it's only Leicester went and won the league, and since then it's been a poison chalice.