England - Road to the World Cup - Russia 18

[Sly]

Amongst all the hysteria this week, around the potential / rumoured actions of Russia attempting to kill people on British soil, Gareth Southgate announced an England squad, which seems to have largely gone undiscussed on here.

 

Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope, Jack Butland, Joe Hart

 

Defenders: Ryan Bertrand, Eric Dier, Joe Gomez, Alfie Mawson, Harry Maguire, Danny Rose, Kyle Walker, John Stones, James Tarkowski, Kieran Trippier

 

Midfielders: Dele Alli, Lewis Cook, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Jesse Lingard, Jake Livermore, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jack Wilshere, Ashley Young

 

Forwards: Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jamie Vardy, Danny Welbeck

 

Games against Netherlands / Italy

 

No place this time around for;

 

Kane, Drinkwater, Jones, Smalling, Forster, Delph, Cahill, Shelvey, Walcott, Barkley, Chambers, Clyne, Gibbs, Sturridge, Heaton, Shaw, Cresswell, Abraham.

 

Some of those are injured, some Gareth has just decided to bin off.  

 

 

[kingcarr21]

What Livermore or Welbeck have done to deserve a call up ill never know. I would have had Shelvey and Wilson

 

When you see the French/Belgian teams it just shows how we are so much weaker in terms of actual quality. I cant wait for the World Cup as I love tournament football but I am holding no expectations for England so they can hopefully surprise me by getting past the Round of 16.

[CollinsLCFC]

Cant understand Livermore, Welbeck and Hart.

[sylofox]

Not really up for the WC this summer. The thought of what may happen far out weighs the prospect of the tournament.

 

The fact it was a bent vote to start with shows what a fvcking joke it will be.

 

[RowlattsFox]

Out of that squad I would go for

 

Pickford

 

Stones, Tarkowski, Maguire

 

Walker, Dier, Wilshere, Rose

 

Ali     Sterling

 

Vardy

 

I think its the best we can do, depending on how Tarkowski gets on. Argument for Young at left wing back but I think we need a left footer. Dare I say it, Kane for Vardy and that's probably our best side.

Edited 16 March 2018 by RowlattsFox

[Lovejoy]

Such a wank squad . I'd actually have Nick Pope starting between the sticks. Welbeck and Livermore should be investigated as they've clearly got something on someone in the FA.

 

We'll be lucky to escape the group.

[Manwell Pablo]

7 hours ago, Sly said:

Amongst all the hysteria this week, around the potential / rumoured actions of Russia attempting to kill people on British soil, Gareth Southgate announced an England squad, which seems to have largely gone undiscussed on here.

 

Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope, Jack Butland, Joe Hart

 

Defenders: Ryan Bertrand, Eric Dier, Joe Gomez, Alfie Mawson, Harry Maguire, Danny Rose, Kyle Walker, John Stones, James Tarkowski, Kieran Trippier

 

Midfielders: Dele Alli, Lewis Cook, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Jesse Lingard, Jake Livermore, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jack Wilshere, Ashley Young

 

Forwards: Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jamie Vardy, Danny Welbeck

 

Games against Netherlands / Italy

 

No place this time around for;

 

Kane, Drinkwater, Jones, Smalling, Forster, Delph, Cahill, Shelvey, Walcott, Barkley, Chambers, Clyne, Gibbs, Sturridge, Heaton, Shaw, Cresswell, Abraham.

 

Some of those are injured, some Gareth has just decided to bin off.  

 

 

 

What a rank squad. Think we'll lose both, and the frightening thing is neither of the two teams we are playing are going to Russia.

[Izzy]

Worst England midfield since we failed to qualify for USA ‘94. Crying out for someone like Paul Scholes.

[Richard]

Gareth clearly doesn't fancy Shelvey, he's a far better footballer than Livermore but he has the potential to be a big liability. He'd prefer someone reliable with a 'good' personality than a loose cannon. 

 

Goalkeeper, a third CB and both central midfield are the obvious weaknesses. Assuming we go with a Chelsea/Tottenham style 3-4-2-1shape

 

Maguire, Stones, Rose, Walker, Sterling, Alli, Kane all nailed on starters for me 

Edited 16 March 2018 by Richard

[Fox92]

The quality of England players is appalling.

How many of those players would get into a top squad? IE Germany.

 

edit: I'm pleased for Tarkwoski though, glad he's got a look in.

Edited 16 March 2018 by Fox92

[spacemunky]

11 minutes ago, Richard said:

Gareth clearly doesn't fancy Shelvey, he's a far better footballer than Livermore but he has the potential to be a big liability. He'd prefer someone reliable with a 'good' personality than a loose cannon. 

 

Goalkeeper, a third CB and both central midfield are the obvious weaknesses. Assuming we go with a Chelsea/Tottenham style 3-4-2-1shape

 

Maguire, Stones, Rose, Walker, Sterling, Alli, Kane all nailed on starters for me 

I'm for Shelvey too. So good on the ball and actually moves the ball forward.

 

Regardless, the midfield will get eaten alive.

 

 

 

 

[peach0000]

I don't think england are too far away from a quality starting 11. The only position where quality is lacking is central midfield and possibly on one of the wings. 

 

There has certainly been worse england sides that this

                  Butland

Walker  Maguire  Stones   Rose

               Dier      Other CM

  Sterling        Ali       Other winger

                    Kane       

[foxy boxing]

It is good he is bringing others into the squad to give them a chance but it should have been done long before now and not just a few months from the world cup!

[kingfox]

If Joe Hart is 4th choice then I'm not too bothered about his inclusion.

Defensive selections are spot on for me, good to see Tarkowski included, well deserved.

Don't understand the inclusions of Lewis Cook and Jake Livermore, two of Winks, Drinkwater, Shelvey or Ward-Prowse should be in there.

Welbeck's selection is laughable, I would've preferred Abraham or Murray.

 

For these qualifiers I'd try out two formations 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-2-1.

[Stinkenzo]

Why do some people think international football is about picking a squad based on their form since the last international break?

[AjcW]

The main issue for me is the 4 goalkeepers thing.

It reminds me of Shakespere here, Gareth just doesn't have it in him to upset the old guard so Hart has to come along even though he has no right being in the squad!

 

Picking 27 is stupid as well. Either pick 30 and treat these two games like you will have to the two world cup warm ups (30 down to 23) or pick 23 and let everyone have a chance!

 

Also the under 21 squad includes the likes of Alexander Arnold and Harry Winks who are more than worth a senior place if Welbeck and Hart are!!

Edited 16 March 2018 by AjcW

[Manwell Pablo]

3 hours ago, AjcW said:

The main issue for me is the 4 goalkeepers thing.

It reminds me of Shakespere here, Gareth just doesn't have it in him to upset the old guard so Hart has to come along even though he has no right being in the squad!

 

Picking 27 is stupid as well. Either pick 30 and treat these two games like you will have to the two world cup warm ups (30 down to 23) or pick 23 and let everyone have a chance!

 

Also the under 21 squad includes the likes of Alexander Arnold and Harry Winks who are more than worth a senior place if Welbeck and Hart are!!

 

The only thing I can think is he has absloutley no idea who is no.1,2,3 or even 4 is out of those four and intends to play each one for a half over the two games. 

 

If not 4 is just stupid, we don't need to take four keepers to a world cup.

[AjcW]

4 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

The only thing I can think is he has absloutley no idea who is no.1,2,3 or even 4 is out of those four and intends to play each one for a half over the two games. 

 

If not 4 is just stupid, we don't need to take four keepers to a world cup.

I'd have let him off with similar thinking but he did it for the last round of games and I think two got a game? So it wasn't like a half each.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Let’s face it the cupboard is pretty bare at the moment which is why Welbeck and Wilshire have got back in, I have low expectations for England in the World Cup  probably get out of the group but lose in the next round.

 

[MC Prussian]

Still wonder what Ward-Prowse has that doesn't see him getting a look in. Certainly one of the more talented England midfielders of late, and also very versatile.

[filbertway]

Pickford

 

Walker

Stones

Maguire

Rose

 

Wilshire

Dier

 

Sterling

Alli

Lallana

 

Kane

[Ian Nacho]

Would love to see Vardy have a major role for England but I doubt he will. 

[Dan LCFC]

On 3/16/2018 at 12:00, Richard said:

Gareth clearly doesn't fancy Shelvey, he's a far better footballer than Livermore but he has the potential to be a big liability. He'd prefer someone reliable with a 'good' personality than a loose cannon. 

 

Goalkeeper, a third CB and both central midfield are the obvious weaknesses. Assuming we go with a Chelsea/Tottenham style 3-4-2-1shape

 

Maguire, Stones, Rose, Walker, Sterling, Alli, Kane all nailed on starters for me 

I'd question that about Livermore. He was involved in that shambles in Barcelona recently for West Brom, has struggled to hold down a place in their side which is bottom by 8 points, isn't rated by their fans one bit. Don't forget as well the drug thing a couple of years ago, feel a bit harsh mentioning it as it sounded like there were reasons for it but it still hardly smacks of reliable.

 

There's just literally no reason at all he gets in the squad and the consistency he makes it is starting to concern me that he's actually going to make the final 23.

 

Him and Welbeck would be joke selections. Both garbage, both doing nothing at international or club level.

 

I'd actually take Shelvey personally. Agree he's a loose cannon but he's a bit different. We need to gamble more.

[Dan LCFC]

On 3/16/2018 at 16:53, Manwell Pablo said:

 

The only thing I can think is he has absloutley no idea who is no.1,2,3 or even 4 is out of those four and intends to play each one for a half over the two games. 

 

If not 4 is just stupid, we don't need to take four keepers to a world cup.

If he makes his decision over those two friendlies, based on 45 minutes each then we're in trouble.

 

Agree with the poster who said it reeks of not upsetting the old guard. Hart's been woeful for ages now and shouldn't be in the squad.

[WilmslowFox]

Tickets on sale today (to registered England supporters) for Nigeria friendly in June.  General sale next Monday.  Will probably be five Foxes involved, mostly on the Nigeria side.  Will this be the highest number of Leicester players to have featured in an international?

Edited 21 March 2018 by WilmslowFox