l444ry Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 Astonished that he hasn't been shifted out yet. Will back the owners decision 100% but can't help feeling that you don't have to be Mystic Meg to think this won't work out well if Puel stays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynefox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 How many games are people willing to give him? I think he's staying. I've been a Puel Out advocate but I will give him support. It's a new season. I think we should all put the knives away for the time being and give him our initial support. However, I'd give him 7 games to, at the very least, impress me with some decent performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaAl Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 minute ago, maynefox said: How many games are people willing to give him? I think he's staying. I've been a Puel Out advocate but I will give him support. It's a new season. I think we should all put the knives away for the time being and give him our initial support. However, I'd give him 7 games to, at the very least, impress me with some decent performances. If he stays then he is unlikely to survive beyond 13 games as we will have sunk to near the bottom of the league. i hope he goes this month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 24 minutes ago, Foxxed said: I agree but is it influencing or dictating? Wes dictated to Ranieri. Literally told him their tactics and refused to budge. The first time it worked spectacularly - the second time resulted in Ranieri departure and would result in a complete inversion of player/manager authority, which would only work on the occasions the captain actually does know the best team and the best tactics. What did Wes say?... Err, Claudio, Err, Err, we'll Err, play Err, you know, Err like we Err want! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, Foxxed said: I agree but is it influencing or dictating? Wes dictated to Ranieri. Literally told him their tactics and refused to budge. The first time it worked spectacularly - the second time resulted in Ranieri departure and would result in a complete inversion of player/manager authority, which would only work on the occasions the captain actually does know the best team and the best tactics. I’m sure it wasn’t Wes’ tactics that got Ranieri sacked. We completely changed our style of play in 16/17 and it didn’t work. Ranieri tried to make us keep possession, even the biggest clown can see that can’t have come from Wes Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoustonFox Posted 18 May 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 18 May 2018 14 hours ago, Koke said: Everton home Southampton away Newcastle away Chelsea away Huddersfield home Watford home West Brom away Tottenham home Tottenham away Arsenal home Loads of very good attacking displays in those games. It's not only the odd excellent attacking display tbh. There is a myth developing that it's been constant boring negative under Puel. Granted there has been many dire games as I've adimmitted earlier but some people are trying to rewrite history. EDIT: I just wanna add that we are the highest scorers outside the top 6. We've scored 20 (twenty) more goals than Burnley. Yes it has been boring for many games but you'd think we were WBA under Pulis by the reaction on here. 13 hours ago, Gerard said: I'd add Stoke and Swansea at home to that list as well. Although both games ended up draws we done enough to win both of those games by two clear goals and dominated both teams. Sometimes you don't get the results you deserve. What will be interesting if Pereira signs in the next couple of days and if Puel is there for his signing and announcement to the media. I find it's strange he's been told or is aware of we're looking for another manager but if we can't get an upgrade he can stay. 11 hours ago, Donut said: Were basing judgement on the fact that: 1) He has talked about giving opportunities to youngsters, and has delivered on this in giving extended amounts of game time to Chilwell and Gray, as well as including Choudhry and even Barnes in the team in cameos. Whether they've shown they are equipped, time will tell 2) That he has just come to the period where he can really begin to transform the squad, move on from the Mahrez debacle which unsettled the player and everyone else, and start to bring in his targets, and judging by him having singled out Perreira it looks like his got a firm grasp on this already to move efficiently and get the targets in 3) That not all the football has been bad. But some are happy only highlight the bad on here. In quite a few games we have passed the ball a lot better, and our goal tally for the season will indicate we have been creative too. Not CONSISTENTLY enough, but that ties in with him bringing in his own players. 4) The fact that Puel himself has constantly talked about moving the ball with quick tempo and playing at pace, which is the opposite of what we have seen in some games, indicating that what we are seeing now is TRANSITION, and not the FINISHED ARTICLE of what he is trying to do with us 5) The fact that (for once) a player, in Jamie Vardy has actually come out and said, in agreement with point 4, he has been telling us to play a quicker style and pass and move, and its up to us to give more to him, something more of them should be doing because they've proved they are capable 6) The fact that he moved us from 14th to 9th in the league, irrespective of how this happened. Dips in form are dips in form and they hit everyone, we have had one, and we have finished 9th. 9th is below an Everton side expected to be best of the rest, and a Burnley team that have exceeded expectations by absolutely miles. So Burnley are no benchmark, just as we were no benchmark for anyone when we won the league to say "oh you couldn't finish ahead of Leicester". So whatever you think of it and how you like it, its a top half Premier League finish, which is an improvement on where we were when he took over. 7) The fact that however fickle the "vote of confidence" usually is, the board have given a vote of confidence and look like, at the moment, being true to their word and letting Puel build, so their word may be genuine this time 8) Despite the fact people talk about the damage he could do to the club and all the evidence they could point to to support their tenuous claim, he hasn't ruined anyone. Ever. A team he has managed might have finished lower one season after another, but only if they massively over achieved the previous season. So he has shown no signs at any club of leaving behind this mythical trail of destruction. My opinion was never based on two end of season games, ive been talking of patience ever since Puel came here. Its made me the object of a few insults along the way, but ive never based anything on something as short term as 2 games worth of form, and I would guess most level headed posters don't either. Some of my favourite posters on here making some good points. I’d also add some of the cup performances which were great. It was only Peterborough but that game was awesome! @Donut - I’d also add Diabate to your list for point #1 I have been annoyed with Puel a little but never to the point where I was like I was with Claudio and Shakey when I just knew it was over. I’m all for giving him time, he’s starting to say the right things and we’ve seen glimpses of what he wants to do. I also don’t want to be that club that changes all the time. Let’s at least give him a full year to turn it around, it’s a lot of work and with Pereira and maybe some others of similar ilk, it might be interesting. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell sprout Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 The games @Koke mentioned are spot on, the attacking football in those games was excellent,even in defeat, im just lost as to how good entertainment football one week can be so bad the next, and it really isn’t an exaggeration when we say it’s ‘that ‘ bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 Been binge watching all of Puels interviews, I was on the edge of the Puel IN fence, but now i've hopped over, gets my full backing. Papers saying we have beaten spurs and agreed a deal for Ricardo Pereira, Exciting summer ahead. One thing I am definitely not worried about is Puels ability to attract a player. Or even find a player. The manager does get a say in which players he feels he wants once the scouts have done their due dilligence and got a list together, and I feel Puels judgement of a player is decent. Roll on the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 7 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said: Been binge watching all of Puels interviews, I was on the edge of the Puel IN fence, but now i've hopped over, gets my full backing. Papers saying we have beaten spurs and agreed a deal for Ricardo Pereira, Exciting summer ahead. One thing I am definitely not worried about is Puels ability to attract a player. Or even find a player. The manager does get a say in which players he feels he wants once the scouts have done their due dilligence and got a list together, and I feel Puels judgement of a player is decent. Roll on the summer. what if we don't want you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 7 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said: Been binge watching all of Puels interviews, I was on the edge of the Puel IN fence, but now i've hopped over, gets my full backing. Papers saying we have beaten spurs and agreed a deal for Ricardo Pereira, Exciting summer ahead. One thing I am definitely not worried about is Puels ability to attract a player. Or even find a player. The manager does get a say in which players he feels he wants once the scouts have done their due dilligence and got a list together, and I feel Puels judgement of a player is decent. Roll on the summer. You seriously need to get a life my friend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 (edited) I still don't think he is the man for the job, with the right manager we could and should get a lot more out of the squad and players we have, there has been too many games where the players have not turned up whether this is down to selection, training, tactics its the managers reasonability. We looked toothless up front with an isolated Vardy and he failed to realise it all season apart from the last few games bringing Nacho into the team (this was clear to see early in the season but then he gets dropped like a stone), happy to pass it around our own half while creating very little clear cut chances, the times we do manage to get him involved he normally bags. (Vardy) Granted there has been quite a few individual mistakes, Chillwell must have cost us quite a few crucial goals this season yet he continued to play him some say that's a good thing others say bad management... Burnley went on a 11 game streak without a win and we bottled it.. we should have been finishing 7th without a doubt, the defence has made quite a few errors so Puel can't take all the slack for that but hes had Drago, Fuchs and others at his disposal... we can moan at Simpson but in defence he has been pretty solid once again... we all know he is never going to tare up trees as an attacking full back but the manager has failed to adapt this. it's not rocket science to bring home the points in this league at the minute yet we are treating it like that is the case. Depending on the Arsenal manager next season 5th could be there for the taking, I don't think he would be able to achieve it though (failing to capitalise on 7th as a prime example) but I think the right manager would make that possible. Edited 19 May 2018 by whoareyaaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 14 hours ago, knitro said: I think the most telling portend of Leicester's future is the renewed focus on the academy, with a manager who will play youngsters. Hamza's nightmare against Spurs (which to be fair, far better players than him have been rinsed by Kane) was a vote of confidence, not an act of desperation. Properly attended, it'll be a massive learning experience for him to grow from. Further, look at the big teams and how they are bleeding young talent, who see no way to the first team. If Leicester becomes that one top half team that gives 1st team minutes to 20-21 year olds, guess who we are going to start to see drawn to our squad? To me, this is the real way forward and why I am Puel in. I've seen Puel get a lot of stick for bringing Choudhury on at right back but it's been mainly by people who will use any stick to beat Puel with. My take on it was he had a choice between Benalouane or Choudhury. Benalouane offers nothing to our club going into the future, Choudhury could end up being a very good player for us. Neither are right backs but both have played there at some points in their careers. I personally would have picked Choudhury as he has assets to play full back as he's a tenacious tackler, a good athlete with pace and stamina and should be able to play a bit being a midfielder. Puel put trust into him by taking him out of his comfort zone and asking him to play a position which isn't his favoured against top class opponents. I'd much rather see our squad supplemented by the best academy players than a £12m buy like Iborra who came here as a 30 year old squad player. There are man management and tactical decisions that I'm not convinced with Puel but I think he's brilliant for managing resources and developing young players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 Is anyone else leaning towards keeping Puel? Like many fans I’d love it if the Pearson, Shakey & Walsh trio came home or someone like Rafa took over, but does Puel need time and most importantly, our support and patience? From what we’ve seen so far, he is trying to build something. I think two new fullbacks would really transform our style and help Puel implement his tactics in an effective way. He has been a bit too stubborn with his insistence on playing a specific way even though we have players in the first XI who can’t play that way. But all the great managers are pretty stubborn in their beliefs... Mourinho... Pep... Pearson . No but seriously, I don’t think Puel intends to bore us with the constant sideways and backwards passing, it’s just the only way some of our poor players on the ball (Simpson, Morgan, etc) can respond to the managers demands. Sign Pereira, a new LB and a partner for Maguire as priority and we can challenge for Europe under Puel imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 Keep him until Christmas. If we're a) above the relegation zone and b) playing vaguely exciting football then continue with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 I think we are going to see that if Puel can get the signings he wants, and then play the way he wants, we are going to be a VERY good side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Foxxed said: Keep him until Christmas. If we're a) above the relegation zone and b) playing vaguely exciting football then continue with him. Christ! Would you really be satisfied with just that!? Your yardstick of a decent manager is someone who has us not in the bottom three and plays ‘vaguely exciting football’? It’s hardly surprising people are losing interest. Wheres the ambition? Edited 19 May 2018 by Col city fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 Comparing The Nige and Puel is like apples and a solitary rotting raspberry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: Comparing The Nige and Puel is like apples and a solitary rotting raspberry. Yes true not seen puel strangle a player or tell a supporter to f..k off yet.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Markyblue said: Yes true not seen puel strangle a player or tell a supporter to f..k off yet.? If he did I’d probably back him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 Just now, Sharpe's Fox said: If he did I’d probably back him. I have no doubt about that my friend. Forums are for different opinions and long may that continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 Loved np but as a fan I support wholeheartedly the man in charge of the team and that is puel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 50 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Christ! Would you really be satisfied with just that!? Your yardstick of a decent manager is someone who has us not in the bottom three and plays ‘vaguely exciting football’? It’s hardly surprising people are losing interest. Wheres the ambition? It's what I want in six months from a manager who's trying to transform the club, not the end goal. Things often take time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 End of the day, doesn't look like he's going anywhere so I'll back him. I can't see him lasting till Christmas mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 18 hours ago, weller54 said: What did Wes say?... Err, Claudio, Err, Err, we'll Err, play Err, you know, Err like we Err want! Plus, Captain..captain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 19 May 2018 Share Posted 19 May 2018 8 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: You seriously need to get a life my friend Hes got one....Hes an expert Binger,and Troubleshooter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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