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16 minutes ago, Koke said:

He's a poor manager, will be sacked by November. Terrible choice by Man Utd. 6th place could be up for grabs if we start next season well. 

If Sarri is still there and Hazard isn't, Chelsea could well struggle next season.

Solskjaer had a great start but it's already looking like that won't work long term, so they may also struggle

Spurs... if (big if) they lose key figures like Kane/Pochettino then I can't see them maintaining their current status.

Arsenal are a bit of a mixed bag. 

 

The top 6 could be wide open next year. Chances are at least two of those will be alright and ManCity/Liverpool will continue to dominate so Top 4 is probably out of reach, but I reckon we'll see at least one of LCFC/Wolves finishing 6th or better.

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14 minutes ago, Xen said:

The top 6 could be wide open next year. Chances are at least two of those will be alright and ManCity/Liverpool will continue to dominate so Top 4 is probably out of reach, but I reckon we'll see at least one of LCFC/Wolves finishing 6th or better.

Be class if we both did it.

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2 hours ago, ARM1968 said:

You can almost hear the gnashing of teeth in the media at the mere thought of such a travesty. 

Us and Wolves push norf landun out lol lol lol

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Does anyone not think the manager/player of the month awards are pretty late? it's getting to Mid April for something based on March 

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6 hours ago, Koke said:

 

He's a poor manager, will be sacked by November. Terrible choice by Man Utd. 6th place could be up for grabs if we start next season well. 

He’s rumoured to have fallen out with Pogba and Lukaku ( there’s a surprise ) - looking like the writing is already on the wall 

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6 hours ago, Babylon said:

If they get him that's £190m net spend since promotion, £40m more than our current net spend of £147m since we got promoted.

That's interesting..Just to keep us healthy ,I hope we can ditch our surplus to requirements players,and B.Rodgers is not left with access baggage!!

Plus besides Tielemans ,( hoping all parties agree) ...I suppose Rodgers will have some ideas on players he would like,to bring in at various levels...

Immediate cover,and investment cover...It's scarery thinking what a slightly above avg player costs,if one just want to top up the quality of the squad...

@Babylon  honest question...

Yes we have some good youngsters,but after Chilwell,Gray, Choudry,and Barnes.......Do we have other youngsters who will be knocking heavily on the door,

For next season????  

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6 hours ago, Xen said:

If Sarri is still there and Hazard isn't, Chelsea could well struggle next season.

Solskjaer had a great start but it's already looking like that won't work long term, so they may also struggle

Spurs... if (big if) they lose key figures like Kane/Pochettino then I can't see them maintaining their current status.

Arsenal are a bit of a mixed bag. 

 

The top 6 could be wide open next year. Chances are at least two of those will be alright and ManCity/Liverpool will continue to dominate so Top 4 is probably out of reach, but I reckon we'll see at least one of LCFC/Wolves finishing 6th or better.

So we are hoping our chances...by depending on foxes fans ideas and opinions that a big club like Man Utd have made an error of judgement...

That Chelsea good luck strain with Sarri,has ran out..and then Spurs are going to lose their so called top players....

Just on Spurs alone,they have shown that they often put out consistent top performances without their media called top players...In shitting on Spurs From this Forum,it's got forgotten they have a decent squad,with decent young players...!! Plus rightly they have earnt what level they have competed at, with less finances than the others,for a top 4 place,and competed well in the CL competition these last few seasons....Sometimes this spurs hate-line, borders on Sour-grapes,more than General witty football banter..!!...(jesus!!  I am finding myself defending them....)!!

 

Sorry but..!!  if we can compete for top 6, or even outside hope of consistently challenging to spend time

dabbling with top 3-4, then I hope ,we depend on what quality....

WE bring to the table,on manager,club &owner support,and quality of our own 1st choice 15-16 players....Not because others are lacking...!!!

 

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7 hours ago, Foxxed said:

Got a bad feeling about Solskjaer. He had some really favourable fixtures when he took charge and rode on his new manager/not Mourinho bounce. A good manager should be able to pick up a team after bad results. Will be interesting to see if he can do that.

Also true of someone quite close to home....keeping fingers crossed it's not just "bounce"

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7 minutes ago, norwichfox said:

Also true of someone quite close to home....keeping fingers crossed it's not just "bounce"

Got much more experience than OGS behind him 

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2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Got much more experience than OGS behind him 

Pleased for you that you are sold on him. I'm prepared to wait and see how things are after his first transfer window.

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6 minutes ago, norwichfox said:

Pleased for you that you are sold on him. I'm prepared to wait and see how things are after his first transfer window.

I only said he's more experienced than OGS. Thought that was a fair comment

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34 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

Kane out with a "serious" lateral ligament injury to his left leg:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47902884

 

Highly likely to remain sidelined for the rest of the season - and beyond, into the summer.

 

Vardy out of retirement for the Nations league then. A Kane injury is pretty much a crisis for the England squad lol

 

Southgate told Vardy he felt the striker “still had a lot to offer” but the manager also understood the thinking behind the player’s decision. With England not exactly blessed with striking options, Southgate and Vardy have agreed to “not shut the door completely”, although he would return only if there were an injury crisis.

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No point calling up Vardy to sit on the bench, and I think he'll politely decline if he did get called up.

Kane always heals well before the predicted return date anyway.

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On 10/04/2019 at 11:48, fuchsntf said:

Southgate to resurrect Vardy's England Career!!!  After Harry.K suffers CL & Euro blow...s

 

I am tellin'   ya'all

I told you lot days ago!!!  Vardy will win us the new EU-League this summer...

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8 hours ago, murphy said:

I would say in response to that, that a player has to earn a run in the team.  Someone like Nacho has made himself almost unselectable this season.

 

Fair enough if you stand by your opinion but can you think of a single established player (ie not a kid like Chillwell stepping up from the U23s) that has started off poorly and taken 6 months or a year to become good for us in recent seasons?

 

I just think the evidence backs my argument.

Andrej Kramatic

 

 

Leicester City wrote off Andrej Kramatic fairly quickly.

Despite interest from Premier League giants Chelsea, The Foxes won the race to sign the rising star of Croatian football in January 2015, pulling off a real coup when they landed the 23-year-old Rijeka striker according to The Guardian.

But Kramaric’s time in England is best left forgotten. He was handed just 15 Premier League appearances, finding the net twice, and found himself on loan at Hoffenheim while Leicester were celebrating the Premier League title.

 

Few were shocked when Leicester cut ties with Kramaric in 2016, selling him to the Bundesliga outfit for a fee of £9.5 million, as reported by Transfermarkt.

And Kramaric has since spent the last three years showing Leicester where they went wrong. After 51 goals in his first two seasons at Hoffenheim, the prolific centre-forward is in the form of his life right now.

Andrej Kramaric of 1899 Hoffenheim celebrates after scoring his team's first goal during the Bundesliga match between VfB Stuttgart and TSG 1899 Hoffenheim at Mercedes-Benz Arena on March...

He has hit the target 20 times in all competitions this season, including 10 in 2019 alone. These days, Kramaric is firmly established as one of the Bundesliga’s elite talents while Kelechi Iheanacho, Shinji Okazaki and co toil in front of goal at his former club.

 

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/04/11/brendan-rodgers-must-be-cursing-leicesters-decision-to-sell-andr/

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34 minutes ago, davieG said:

Andrej Kramatic

 

 

Leicester City wrote off Andrej Kramatic fairly quickly.

Despite interest from Premier League giants Chelsea, The Foxes won the race to sign the rising star of Croatian football in January 2015, pulling off a real coup when they landed the 23-year-old Rijeka striker according to The Guardian.

But Kramaric’s time in England is best left forgotten. He was handed just 15 Premier League appearances, finding the net twice, and found himself on loan at Hoffenheim while Leicester were celebrating the Premier League title.

 

Few were shocked when Leicester cut ties with Kramaric in 2016, selling him to the Bundesliga outfit for a fee of £9.5 million, as reported by Transfermarkt.

And Kramaric has since spent the last three years showing Leicester where they went wrong. After 51 goals in his first two seasons at Hoffenheim, the prolific centre-forward is in the form of his life right now.

Andrej Kramaric of 1899 Hoffenheim celebrates after scoring his team's first goal during the Bundesliga match between VfB Stuttgart and TSG 1899 Hoffenheim at Mercedes-Benz Arena on March...

He has hit the target 20 times in all competitions this season, including 10 in 2019 alone. These days, Kramaric is firmly established as one of the Bundesliga’s elite talents while Kelechi Iheanacho, Shinji Okazaki and co toil in front of goal at his former club.

 

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/04/11/brendan-rodgers-must-be-cursing-leicesters-decision-to-sell-andr/

But...he never made it here.   :facepalm:

 

Silva might continue to do well at Monaco (hopefully).  Musa might be a success in Saudi Arabia or wherever he is.

 

All I was saying is that based on recent seasons, you can tell whether a new signing will be a success or not pretty quickly, within  ten games or so.

 

Kramaric doing well in Germany doesn't make his transfer here a success.

 

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18 minutes ago, murphy said:

But...he never made it here.   :facepalm:

 

Silva might continue to do well at Monaco (hopefully).  Musa might be a success in Saudi Arabia or wherever he is.

 

All I was saying is that based on recent seasons, you can tell whether a new signing will be a success or not pretty quickly, within  ten games or so.

 

Kramaric doing well in Germany doesn't make his transfer here a success.

 

By definition they're unlikely to make it here if they're not given a decent run and are then shipped out.

You can't prove a negative we'll never know if some of the so called flops would have made it if they're not here to do so.

This whole argument has got too extreme my original comment was about writing players off to soon before they've had a chance to prove themselves and some players take more time having to adapt to differing circumstances. 

I'm exhausted debating the point so that's me out.

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29 minutes ago, davieG said:

Andrej Kramatic

 

 

Leicester City wrote off Andrej Kramatic fairly quickly.

Despite interest from Premier League giants Chelsea, The Foxes won the race to sign the rising star of Croatian football in January 2015, pulling off a real coup when they landed the 23-year-old Rijeka striker according to The Guardian.

But Kramaric’s time in England is best left forgotten. He was handed just 15 Premier League appearances, finding the net twice, and found himself on loan at Hoffenheim while Leicester were celebrating the Premier League title.

 

Few were shocked when Leicester cut ties with Kramaric in 2016, selling him to the Bundesliga outfit for a fee of £9.5 million, as reported by Transfermarkt.

And Kramaric has since spent the last three years showing Leicester where they went wrong. After 51 goals in his first two seasons at Hoffenheim, the prolific centre-forward is in the form of his life right now.

Andrej Kramaric of 1899 Hoffenheim celebrates after scoring his team's first goal during the Bundesliga match between VfB Stuttgart and TSG 1899 Hoffenheim at Mercedes-Benz Arena on March...

He has hit the target 20 times in all competitions this season, including 10 in 2019 alone. These days, Kramaric is firmly established as one of the Bundesliga’s elite talents while Kelechi Iheanacho, Shinji Okazaki and co toil in front of goal at his former club.

 

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/04/11/brendan-rodgers-must-be-cursing-leicesters-decision-to-sell-andr/

I reckon one has to just read this forum...and one sees how quickly and for how long many,many posters are very poor on recognising a good-decent player.

How poor they are,on not understanding how players can develope ,their careers,and potential for the club....

that in itself is not the bad thing...but it's when they go  on campaigns consistently bombarding the forum insisting players A.B or C are not and never will be good enough, and go on continual hate campaigns, against one of their own,instead of encouraging them over long periods...

What I could never understand,is how we as a club,could give some players long extended runs,but others like a Young  Kramaric or Kaputska,didn't give any decent  near near the first team...

 

I do believe,to a certain extent,as far as clubs are concerned,one can judge a managers all round quality when they have the rescources,but do not use them to

the full capabilities.Even when the tried and tested are letting you down,many are still reluctant to give the young high potential newbuy decent runs in the side,or

they Play them out of position.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kramaric always struck me as a pretty accomplished player.... his performance up top alone at the emirates in feb was excellent. Sadly Claudio didn’t recognise his ability and he wasn’t best suited to our low possession approach

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45 minutes ago, davieG said:

By definition they're unlikely to make it here if they're not given a decent run and are then shipped out.

You can't prove a negative we'll never know if some of the so called flops would have made it if they're not here to do so.

This whole argument has got too extreme my original comment was about writing players off to soon before they've had a chance to prove themselves and some players take more time having to adapt to differing circumstances. 

I'm exhausted debating the point so that's me out.

Not so fast DavieG.

 

You can't duck out before I've had my right to reply.

 

By definition, a player that can't get into the side cannot be called a successful transfer.  Players pick themselves not managers.

 

I don't think the argument is extreme at all.  I made a quite simple point that recent history suggests that our transfers either hit the ground running or don't make it at all.  The idea that players will adapt and grow into the side seems reasonable but it doesn't bear scrutiny.  It's just an observation, that's all.

 

Anyway, let's leave it at that then.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Kramaric always struck me as a pretty accomplished player.... his performance up top alone at the emirates in feb was excellent. Sadly Claudio didn’t recognise his ability and he wasn’t best suited to our low possession approach

Yeah, but it's OK we've got Iheanacho now! 

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Couldn't care less about Kramaric, we won the league !!!

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Apart from Wolves, despite how much they've spent in the couple of transfer windows, not sure who has had the best season so far - in terms of winning over critics etc.

 

I'd say Hassenhuttl has done a very decent job with Southampton so far, given the position they were in when they sack Mark Hughes to where they are now.

 

However, as painful it is to say it now, if Warnock keeps Cardiff up (considering the Sala tragedy being a massive weight on their shoulders and now a couple of key players out for the season) - that would probably be one of the best success stories of the EPL from the last decade, aside from LCFC'S title triumph, of course.

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