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Croatia V England Semi Final Wednesday 11th July 19:00 KO

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2 hours ago, Facecloth said:

But Alli isn't bringing anything out of anyone, he's giving the ball away constantly. I well aware what players can bring to a team without having goal numbers to back it up. That why I was always Gerrard over Lampard. If Alli starts like he did yesterday on Wednesday we could be in real trouble, it was like having 10 men at times.

 

And why do you keep going back to Sterling, the last few post have almost exclusively been about Alli, yet you're ignoring that. And you call me an idiot lol 

 

Alli is ghosting through the games - it was the simplest goal he took yesterday he was last in a line of three English players who all could have scored and, fundamentally, Sweden had had it. If England are going to get through Croatia then he has to step up his game. There's something missing in the guy - very talented yet so far unable to commit to hard work - a bit like Mahrez - likes the showboating stuff but avoids the grind. Maybe he's the reason Spurs have never quite got there. He's the one player (bar Kane) who has the flair to turn games and, as such, he has an enormous responsibility in the last stages of this tourney.

A fair few people on here are reassured by the fact that Croatia had a 'grueller' - however, they'll have enough time to recover from that and the confidence they'll have in putting out a fighting Russian team in front of tens of thousands of Russki fans will be of immense confidence value to them.

But Scousefox says that Croatia are "rubbish". And he's calling you an idiot.....

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22 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

I think Alli’s class has been very questionable for about a year now. There’s a good player in there but for whatever reason his form has been poor for a while now. One six yard header shouldn’t mask that

I suspect he's so imminently unlikeable that most will discount him. Even during his celebration there was something I disliked about his mannerisms. It's so rare to have a decent English creative midfielder, a player that pops up with an essential creative spark in critical moments in a game. I don't feel he was a at his best, but it was definitely his best match so far, and he seemed to fit better into his role.

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15 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

 

Sterling to finally make an impact

Best joke Izzy's ever posted.

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12 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

We won’t get an easier World Cup than this again lol 

 

And we still might not win it...

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14 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

We won’t get an easier World Cup than this again lol 

 

If we beat Croatia and then Belgium in the final then this is the first time a team has won the World Cup without playing any former champions since West Germany did it in 1974 (I think).


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Are any of the Croatians suspended for this? I know a bunch of them were on yellows going into last night.

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16 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

I suspect he's so imminently unlikeable that most will discount him. Even during his celebration there was something I disliked about his mannerisms. It's so rare to have a decent English creative midfielder, a player that pops up with an essential creative spark in critical moments in a game. I don't feel he was a at his best, but it was definitely his best match so far, and he seemed to fit better into his role.

Taking my dislike for him out of the equation I just don’t feel he offers enough. I’ve heard him labelled as the new Gazza, I don’t know if they mean when he was playing or how he is now lol

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I don’t mind Alli a bit of a whiny diving tw*t when he plays for Spurs but he  leaves that behind when he plays for England. 

 

I get Sterling does a lot of work etc but he’s playing as the second forward for a team in the Semi Final of a World Cup. He needs to start weighing in with some goals. 

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All the negativity about Stirling is really poor 

 

he is working his socks off , making all the hard runs and he defends from the front 

 

he has had chances and yes he hasn’t taken them but he is seriously working hard 

 

give him a break 

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Don’t understand all the gammon slating Sterling. Everyone knows he couldn’t finish his dinner, we have known that for years. He’s in the side over Rashford because he is smarter and makes better runs both towards the ball and away from it.

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4 minutes ago, NorthfieldsFox said:

All the negativity about Stirling is really poor 

 

he is working his socks off , making all the hard runs and he defends from the front 

 

he has had chances and yes he hasn’t taken them but he is seriously working hard 

 

give him a break 

Now I'm not saying Vardy should have started, but defending from the front, working hard, creating space and chances, pace, all the things people are using to justify Sterling's selection despite his lack of finishing ability are all huge parts of Vardys game, and he can finish. Yet apparently, England don't suit Vardy, but now those exact assets he has are the most valuable thing when Sterling shows them.


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6 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Now I'm not saying Vardy should have started, but defending from the front, working hard, creating space and chances, pace, all the things people are using to justify Sterling's selection despite his lack of finishing ability are all huge parts of Vardys game, and he can finish. Yet apparently, England don't suit Vardy, but now those exact assets he has are the most valuable thing when Sterling shows them.

 

I don’t think they are the same type of players , and I’m not sure Southgate ever said that england don’t suit Vardy , just idiots in the media 

 

people are being unfair on Stirling he is carrying a huge work load and trying hard 

 

only the English would be in a World Cup semi final and slaughtering some of the players that have got them there ! 

 

I think this English team has been a pleasure to watch , plenty of drama and players that never give up 

 

just relax , enjoy the semi final and final and watch the team bring it home 

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16 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Now I'm not saying Vardy should have started, but defending from the front, working hard, creating space and chances, pace, all the things people are using to justify Sterling's selection despite his lack of finishing ability are all huge parts of Vardys game, and he can finish. Yet apparently, England don't suit Vardy, but now those exact assets he has are the most valuable thing when Sterling shows them.

 

Sterling is more comfortable in a deeper position which is what England need. His ability to carry the ball is better than Vardy's too.

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Just now, NorthfieldsFox said:

I don’t think they are the same type of players , and I’m not sure Southgate ever said that england don’t suit Vardy , just idiots in the media 

 

people are being unfair on Stirling he is carrying a huge work load and trying hard 

 

only the English would be in a World Cup semi final and slaughtering some of the players that have got them there ! 

 

I think this English team has been a pleasure to watch , plenty of drama and players that never give up 

 

just relax , enjoy the semi final and final and watch the team bring it home 

I'm not saying they are the same player, but you've just listed any similarities they have as justification of Sterling's selection. Anyway I still say Alli is more the issue than Sterling.

 

Its nothing to do with being English or slaughting a team whilst doing well it's about being realistic and judging things on merit and not being some happy clapping idiot just because we've got this far. We can improve, we've got this far despite Alli and in part Sterling, not because of them. Everyone, everything, every team can always improve, no matter how successful they are. 

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2 minutes ago, Wookie said:

Sterling is more comfortable in a deeper position which is what England need. His ability to carry the ball is better than Vardy's too.

I'm not saying that's not true, what I'm saying is he's just basically described another player as justification of the selection of Sterling, never talked about his coming from deep etc. If he's going to come with a list of Vardys assets as the reason Sterling is starting  then he needs to say more, like you have. I still think Rashford offers more in the Sterling role anyway.

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2 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said:

Still convinced that Vardy is going to have his one moment in this tournament somehow.

89th minute winner in the final. Been telling everyone I have spoken to for the past few months that this is going to happen - they aren't mocking me so much now! (Actually beforehand I was saying a winner at the end of extra time, but I have changed my mind on that as I don't think I could cope with the stress....). Anyhow, it's his destiny. Same as it was Goran winning Wimbledon in 2001. 

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Reckon 2-1 England, Kane and Sterling to score in the first half, Kramaric early in the 2nd half to keep everyone nervous.

 

Croatia's win v Argentina was a contender for performance of the tournament but it was a one off. They've effectively drawn against Denamrk and Russia in their last 2 games so they arent as great as some are making out. Still better than Sweden though.

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Has Ross Kemp...

 

A) Been on the bizzo

B) Got 'roid rage

C) Realised It's Coming Home

 

 


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2 hours ago, NorthfieldsFox said:

All the negativity about Stirling is really poor 

 

he is working his socks off , making all the hard runs and he defends from the front 

 

he has had chances and yes he hasn’t taken them but he is seriously working hard 

 

give him a break 

Stirling has run around a lot like a frantic chicken. He has produced next to nothing of quality. That’s where the critique comes from. 

 

The lad has talent and can produce. Now would be a remarkably good time to start. We’ll need him against Belgium. 


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8 hours ago, TeePee said:

Honestly, after the train wreck that was Martin Keown on commentary yesterday (even the good lady, who's a lifelong gooner was getting wound up by him), I'd be willing to risk it with ITV. If you can mentally filter out the pro-spurs propaganda, Hoddle does have some really good insight to offer. 

I actually thought Keown was more pro Spurs than Hoddle

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