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6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

WHO THE **** ARE WE?

 

 

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10 hours ago, Mickey O'Neil said:

Just having a gander on the Arsenal forum. 
 

Quite a bitter bunch which I didn’t have them down as, I’m surprised.
 

A lot of Palace remarks about us seemed balanced despite us winning last week. Arsenal though, come on lads...some of you are appearing deluded. Seriously. I know it’s very hard to admit defeat but slagging us off simply because you lost? Really? 

 

What stunned me the most (and probably shouldn't have on reflection) was how many comments I read after the game defending their squad and attributing blame entirely to Emery. 

 

Don't get me wrong, Emery is a poor manager and was always a bad fit at Arsenal. He's always played kinda ugly football, he was never going to have then playing the Wenger way, it was always going to be the REAL Arsenal way (structured, organised, shitty 1-0 merchants.)

 

But the squad aren't talented, they're awful. Man for man, only two members of their club, anywhere on their books, get in to our 11 and that's the strikers and even they'd have to play at LF and RF and make sure to put a shift in defensively to not get dropped. 

 

Our midfield and defence aren't just on better form, man for man they're better players. Objectively. One of the biggest clubs in Europe started last night with David Luiz, Callum Chambers and Rob Holding at the back for christ sakes, that's literally worse than Burnley.

 

Guemdouzi and Torreira in the middle screams mid table and adding Ceballos (who is to Real what Drinkwater is to Chelsea) or Xhaka doesn't change that. 

 

They have a poor squad full of weak, limp players and no real quality. 

 

And half of them are hash tagging to get Wenger back. **** that noise, how can you be that thick? Wenger got you in this situation, you've not won anything in forever, mostly because of his obsession with signing show ponies with no personality, bottle or fight. 

 

If I was an Arsenal fan I'd be furious about the state of the squad and desperate for a new, modern, capable manager to come and put a rocket up them. Someone to be given time to recognise that the whole thing is a mess and rebuild it properly. 

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11 hours ago, Izzy said:

First 9 minutes Sherwood and Shearer paying homage to our brilliance. They can't speak highly enough of us. Nuff respect 

 

 

Only downside is Sherwood having troubles with Caglar Sunn-Yunn-Chooo. lol

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17 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Guemdouzi and Torreira in the middle screams mid table and adding Ceballos (who is to Real what Drinkwater is to Chelsea) or Xhaka doesn't change that

 

Arsenal fans rate those 2 but reality is they will not achieve anything meaningful with them as starters. Torreira is decent but nothing compared to Ndidi, Fabinho, Kante and Fernandinho. He's miles away. He looks like another Coquelin. Guendouzi also look decent but should be a squad player.

 

Their defence is a ****ing circus. 

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Madness to think Arsenal would get anywhere with Chambers and Holding in the starting line-up. lol

Why wasn't Sokratis playing instead?

 

Emery opting for a back three was also part of the downfall of that Arsenal side yesterday. You need full-backs to sort of neutralize the threat that is Chilwell and Ricardo Pereira.

 

Their bench was also underwhelming - Willock, Saka, Martinelli? Gone are the days of depth in squad at the Arsenal.

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18 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

Arsenal fans rate those 2

 

They're the ultimate in not actually watching football armchair fans, I'm pretty sure most of their more vocal social media fans are your generic, thinks FIFA is real life kids. 

 

Torreira has done nothing but dive at the slightest touch since he arrived in the Prem and I'm still completely mystified by what Guenzdouzi offers. 

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7 minutes ago, Paddy. said:

When they've already paid £90m for our 3rd best CB? Man's not got a great grasp of economics has he?

Not only that but why would they leave a team that looks likely to be playing Champions league next season, at a friendly club that is going places  for a club that looks like it may not qualify for any sort of European football and with massive pressure to produce every game.:dunno:

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2 hours ago, Koke said:

 

Arsenal fans rate those 2 but reality is they will not achieve anything meaningful with them as starters. Torreira is decent but nothing compared to Ndidi, Fabinho, Kante and Fernandinho. He's miles away. He looks like another Coquelin. Guendouzi also look decent but should be a squad player.

 

Their defence is a ****ing circus. 

 

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

They're the ultimate in not actually watching football armchair fans, I'm pretty sure most of their more vocal social media fans are your generic, thinks FIFA is real life kids. 

 

Torreira has done nothing but dive at the slightest touch since he arrived in the Prem and I'm still completely mystified by what Guenzdouzi offers. 

Torreira was very good at Sampdoria and I can see why Arsenal went for him. Playing with Guendouzi though makes his game redundant. They're too similar. Effective at their own job but put them together and it's a waste of a player almost. They're better off playing one of them and having one more attacker. 

 

It's like us playing at home with Puel when he had 2 DMs sometimes when it was clear to see it was largely ineffective when actually trying to win a game. 

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2 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Come home Jesse :wub:

Double swoop lol I'd say fuuch off Lindy and 250 million, we do not want nor need to sell so we set the asking price for any of our players.

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2 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Madness to think Arsenal would get anywhere with Chambers and Holding in the starting line-up. lol

Why wasn't Sokratis playing instead?

 

Emery opting for a back three was also part of the downfall of that Arsenal side yesterday. You need full-backs to sort of neutralize the threat that is Chilwell and Ricardo Pereira.

 

Their bench was also underwhelming - Willock, Saka, Martinelli? Gone are the days of depth in squad at the Arsenal.

Sokratis himself is permanently pissed...

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1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

Come home Jesse :wub:

Was about to share this, I swear I’ve never known a fan base that just doesn’t get football as much as Man Uniteds.

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Just now, RumbleFox said:

What consistently surprises and depresses me is that most football pundits and fans are working class and yet they can't seem to cope with the "establishment" being disrupted. No one likes multinational, capitalist powerhouses in the real world yet they seem to crave them in football. It's as though the pundits feel safe in the evil, crushing grip of the natural order and status quo. They all talk about loving an underdog but they can't cope when one actually shows up.

 

And we're no better. Often on here I've read "tinpot club", "small cub doesn't deserve to be in PL", etc. You'd think that our fans more than anyone would appreciate the working man smashing the system. This season is amazing and I hope it continues. I want to see as many smaller teams right up there as possible.

 

Power to the people!  X 

I agree about liking having 'smaller' clubs in the PL. Hate it when people bang on about the likes of Leeds and Forest etc 'deserving' to be in the top flight

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4 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

 

Man is arguing that going to South Africs, USA etc for pre-season is a legit yardstick for measuring a clubs current state. This is what constitutes legitimate debate in mainstream football media. 

 

Arsenal are clearly a bigger club than Leicester. So ****ing what? Aston Villa are also historically bigger than us but which sane human being would ever go to Villa over us? 

 

Rodgers could one day leave us for Arsenal, no doubt, but not at this present moment.

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8 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

when the core of your argument is pre season tours and financial turnover

 

 

you are ****ed

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11 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

I mean...I think he might be drinking again. He can’t get his words out. 

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