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The "do they mean us?" thread pt 2

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5 hours ago, Corky said:

I have absolutely no idea what that second tweet actually means.

 

Anyone?

Apparently, George Hirst has been working part-time down the market and telling anyone who buys a bowl of bananas that we're massive.

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14 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

To be fair to there is a growing sentiment on FT that we ARE somehow part of the big 6 when we’re just clearly not...

Still won more trophies than Spurs in the PL era... I think I would prefer that to winning trophies 50 years ago. We might not be big 6 but we sure are top 6

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13 hours ago, casablancas said:

I think your clutching there kid. 

Not really, kid, Rodgers is starting to be billed as an elite manager, he's gonna want to be at an elite club, elite clubs are on the back pages everyday, we're not, in fact we hardly get a mention. We beat Liverpool the other day, yet how it's portrayed in the media is that Liverpool lost, not we won. The media have an agenda to make sure the big 6 stay the big 6, whatever their position in the league, because that's where the money, the fame and the recognition is at.

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1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

To be fair to there is a growing sentiment on FT that we ARE somehow part of the big 6 when we’re just clearly not...

That is quite clearly not true.  I think that a lot of people are frustrated at being ignored by Sky, BT Sport etc. as part of their agenda of a "big 6" despite out performing them in the league for the last season and a half.  It will be the same for Everton and West Ham fans too.  There also needs to be a recognition that we are not little Leicester anymore and the social media stats back this although we are some distance behind Spurs.

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33 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

The media have an agenda to make sure the big 6 stay the big 6, whatever their position in the league, because that's where the money, the fame and the recognition is at.

Because that’s what makes them the most money .... fame and recognition of no relevance to the media - it’s just business 

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1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Because that’s what makes them the most money .... fame and recognition of no relevance to the media - it’s just business 

And there in lies the problem.  It is no longer classed as a sport.  Infact this new coefficient they are proposing backs this.  The sporting element (competition) is less important than the PL brand and the "big 6" brand for both the clubs and the TV companies.

 

It makes me a little sad that this is the way football has gone.  In the short term it has given me the chance to see my team win the biggest domestic league in the world as we have more TV money than most clubs in the world.  Long term I see us as one of a number of clubs who become also rans when the closed shop of elite competition becomes a reality in football.

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31 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Serious question, does anyone actually WANT to be considered part of the big six? 

 

It doesn't really mean anything, does it? Its a tag attached to you by the media that awards you more coverage but that brings with it more scrutiny, criticism and pressure to the team. Not to mention plastic fans from places like Africa that add nothing to our club but a skewed and warped appearance to who we actually are. 

 

I'll take finishing top 6 year in, year out without their mainstream acceptance quite gladly. 

Top 6 is more important that Rich 6 although the more you're in the Top 4 the richer you get that's how some of them have got richer.

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15 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Spurs fans lol

 

At this point I would say how are we not? We've not dropped lower than 5th in going on two years now. And in that time, Tottenham and Arsenal have been consistently below us. They're just salty because we've taken their place when they have never really done anything to deserve it anyway.

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1 hour ago, davieG said:

Top 6 is more important that Rich 6 although the more you're in the Top 4 the richer you get that's how some of them have got richer.

We are, unless I'm missing something, pretty clearly aiming to join the big 6 and make it a 7. We're not alone in that objective - see Everton, Wolves and West Ham - but consistently being part of the top 6 makes becoming part of a big 7 more achievable 

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14 hours ago, Corky said:

I have absolutely no idea what that second tweet actually means.

 

Anyone?

There is a leicester fan called george on twitter,loves harvey barnes.

He always makes tweets that say we are a top 6 club, usually leaving out one of Arsenal or Tottenham

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9 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

Apparently, George Hirst has been working part-time down the market and telling anyone who buys a bowl of bananas that we're massive.

That's nothing. There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis...

 

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

The media have an agenda to make sure the big 6 stay the big 6, whatever their position in the league, because that's where the money, the fame and the recognition is at.

That, I'm afraid, is bollocks.

Yes the media focus more on the top six than anything else - bigger fanbases mean they sell more papers, gets more clicks etc - but suggesting they want to keep the top six the same isn't true.

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I think as fans we should just embrace our role as the plucky underdogs. 
 

I don’t wanna be included in the self-entitlement, it’s what makes wins, such as the one at the weekend, all that more enjoyable. 

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Don’t know why there’s an obsession with what pigeonhole the media put us in. The value of football is what it means to you regardless of what others think. 

 

As much as it’s been a fabulous time from the great escape and onwards I still look back with a lot of fondness at our season in League One 

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Big 6 is primarily based on numbers of gloryhunting fans which therefore amounts to more viewers. Spurs are only in there because a run of top 4 finishes made them impossible to ignore. They are miles behind the other 5 in terms of gloryhunting fanbase and will be dropped by sky in the next couple of seasons if they carry on the way they are. Itl become the big 5. 

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