HighPeakFox Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 Just now, Swan Lesta said: Not confused just thought it to be ridiculous. Because it asks pertinent and unprovocative questions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 Puel's history of bringing in real talent will be tested in Xmas......the likes of Maguire, Chilwell and Maddison will be hot property, with city languishing around 10th, I can see them leave for good money. Do we trust Puel with £_££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 21 minutes ago, polarbear said: It took Howe several years to make bpurnemoutj the decent side they are today (passing style was always Great but seasons q and 2 they were flakey at the back, not clinical and not intense) If he comes here he'll have the same challenge getting us to the next level which will take another 2-3 years. Perhaps!!.. But least we'll be heading in the right direction. And it won't be another 2 or 3 years wasted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 20 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Remember what happened to Blackburn when they wanted something better than safe and steady. Possibly West Bromwich too. This is very true. Same with West Brom wanting to move on from Pullis and before that Charlton getting rid of Curbishley in iorder to reach the next level. Frankly I think it is ridiculous that his job should be considered unsafe. We should be careful what we wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, weller54 said: Perhaps!!.. But least we'll be heading in the right direction. And it won't be another 2 or 3 years wasted. If you were calling for Howe to be our manager after he'd been at Bournemouth for a year then fair play. If not, I'll see your 'Perhaps!!' and raise you a few exclamation marks. Edited 15 October 2018 by turtmcfly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, murphy said: This is very true. Same with West Brom wanting to move on from Pullis and before that Charlton getting rid of Curbishley in iorder to reach the next level. Frankly I think it is ridiculous that his job should be considered unsafe. We should be careful what we wish for. Cool, tell the ownees, cus they are the ones wanting European football,....send them a memo,..........I'm sure they would be happy with the lets not want something better, let's stay safe and steady.......infact, maybe that should be there business model, Im sure that is the secret to success they are looking for. Edited 15 October 2018 by Dr The Singh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: Cool, tell the ownees, cus they are the ones wanting European football,....send them a memo,..........I'm sure they would be happy with the lets not want something better, let's stay safe and steady.......infact, maybe that should be there business model, Im sure that is the secret to success they are looking for. We always want something better, we have a young side and we are improving. That's why I don't really understand the clamour to replace him. We've never been a mid table prem team in my whole life. Now we are, it's not good enough. Puel out! Sack the board! Hang the DJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 minutes ago, murphy said: We always want something better, we have a young side and we are improving. That's why I don't really understand the clamour to replace him. We've never been a mid table prem team in my whole life. Now we are, it's not good enough. Puel out! Sack the board! Hang the DJ! That's a matter of opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 23 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: If you were calling for Howe to be our manager after he'd been at Bournemouth for a year then fair play. If not, I'll see your 'Perhaps!!' and raise you a few exclamation marks. !!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 10 minutes ago, murphy said: We always want something better, we have a young side and we are improving. That's why I don't really understand the clamour to replace him. We've never been a mid table prem team in my whole life. Now we are, it's not good enough. Puel out! Sack the board! Hang the DJ! That's the problem, there is mass divide with our fans, and that says alot about the current situation. Many believe we're not improving, too many changes, poor tactics, poor subs, poor player choices with a talented young side. The owners aren't daft, they will make there own decision, personally I think 10 games is a good indication. I think he will be given time by the owners, but I do think this will end in another season drift by with frustration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: That's the problem, there is mass divide with our fans, and that says alot about the current situation. Many believe we're not improving, too many changes, poor tactics, poor subs, poor player choices with a talented young side. The owners aren't daft, they will make there own decision, personally I think 10 games is a good indication. I think he will be given time by the owners, but I do think this will end in another season drift by with frustration. Yeh!! But you were born a miserable s=d!!!!.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said: Puel's history of bringing in real talent will be tested in Xmas......the likes of Maguire, Chilwell and Maddison will be hot property, with city languishing around 10th, I can see them leave for good money. Do we trust Puel with £_££££ Can we at least give the man full credit for developing Chilwell? Puel saw something there that very few of us saw, and persisted with him through performances that were more down than up. All the while bringing a promising young player through, at risk to the weekly results. If it weren't for Claude, y'all would not have been enjoying Ben starting as your national side excelled today. Because few if any of the immediate-results-oriented Usual Suspects would have given him more than a sniff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 minutes ago, KingsX said: Can we at least give the man full credit for developing Chilwell? Puel saw something there that very few of us saw, and persisted with him through performances that were more down than up. All the while bringing a promising young player through, at risk to the weekly results. If it weren't for Claude, y'all would not have been enjoying Ben starting as your national side excelled today. Because few if any of the immediate-results-oriented Usual Suspects would have given him more than a sniff. Claudio gave him a debut in the FA cup, he played under Shakespeare too. He's 2 years older now. there's no saying he wouldn't have made it anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 On 14/10/2018 at 16:04, The Doctor said: That reliable source the sun... If the telegraph and John Percy start saying it then maybe there's something in it, but at the moment we've got gossip in some rag vs players signing because of Puel (Ricardo) and key players happily signing extensions. If people can put to one side the historical hatred of a certain newspaper, it's worth pointing out they do employ some people who know their stuff when it comes to football On 14/10/2018 at 21:36, Tuna said: Interesting that this story never seems to go away. And there is a reason for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 7 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: If people can put to one side the historical hatred of a certain newspaper, it's worth pointing out they do employ some people who know their stuff when it comes to football And there is a reason for that. They also basically own a certain radio station ... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 9 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: If people can put to one side the historical hatred of a certain newspaper, it's worth pointing out they do employ some people who know their stuff when it comes to football And there is a reason for that. Eh with us reliable journalists and papers have been Percy and occasionally the mirror, not the sun. No reason to trust them, particularly when what they're claiming doesn't tally with reality. At most they've potentially talked to one unhappy, fringe player and ignored the actions of the core players who seem happy to work with Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 1 minute ago, The Doctor said: Eh with us reliable journalists and papers have been Percy and occasionally the mirror, not the sun. No reason to trust them, particularly when what they're claiming doesn't tally with reality. At most they've potentially talked to one unhappy, fringe player and ignored the actions of the core players who seem happy to work with Puel. Especially when it was a couple of paragraphs with zero quotes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Eh with us reliable journalists and papers have been Percy and occasionally the mirror, not the sun. No reason to trust them, particularly when what they're claiming doesn't tally with reality. At most they've potentially talked to one unhappy, fringe player and ignored the actions of the core players who seem happy to work with Puel. So if John Percy (or maybe the Mirror) wrote a story along the same lines you'd believe there might be some truth in it yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 Just now, UpTheLeagueFox said: So if John Percy (or maybe the Mirror) wrote a story along the same lines you'd believe there might be some truth in it yes? If a source with a good track record said it I'd be more inclined to not dismiss it out of hand, but what we're seeing doesn't suggest Puel has lost the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 Just now, UpTheLeagueFox said: So if John Percy (or maybe the Mirror) wrote a story along the same lines you'd believe there might be some truth in it yes? I doubt John Percy would put his name to that article, he at least would have much more detail and some quotes. over recent years John Percy has been as close to the owners talking as the press get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Especially when it was a couple of paragraphs with zero quotes Ahhh the 'no quotes' argument I'm sure you're aware that people in football tell journalists things but don't wish to be quoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 minutes ago, The Doctor said: If a source with a good track record said it I'd be more inclined to not dismiss it out of hand, but what we're seeing doesn't suggest Puel has lost the dressing room. I don't think anybody - fans or journalists - are suggesting he's 'lost the dressing room.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 1 minute ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Ahhh the 'no quotes' argument I'm sure you're aware that people in football tell journalists things but don't wish to be quoted. Yeah they do but reputable journos don’t run with it unless they can quote, I’m sure you know that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Yeah they do but reputable journos don’t run with it unless they can quote, I’m sure you know that too Plenty of reputable journalists have run stories without quotes over the years. It isn't that unusual at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 15 October 2018 Share Posted 15 October 2018 3 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Remember what happened to Blackburn when they wanted something better than safe and steady. Possibly West Bromwich too. 2 hours ago, murphy said: This is very true. Same with West Brom wanting to move on from Pullis and before that Charlton getting rid of Curbishley in iorder to reach the next level. Frankly I think it is ridiculous that his job should be considered unsafe. We should be careful what we wish for. The same West Brom many people, most people on here took this piss out off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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