urban.spaceman Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 4 minutes ago, Simoken said: If i hear this abomination mid-game im going to leave 25 minutes early. Merde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 19 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Eez name is Claude. Eee ain’t no fraud Eee maintain good feeliiiing. As we break ze ze ze ze glass ceiling. Je m'appelle Leicester. D+ Must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 1 hour ago, weller54 said: Wonder if Claude has 'Celebrations' or 'Qualiteee Street ' at Christmas? Bon bons .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 A B C Claude loves the intensiteeeee Over passing for the sake of it and often going nowhere is our mentaliteeeee A B C Claudey you and me Might need some work on it.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 6 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Ranieri - the footballing version of Borat i'm dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 On 15/10/2018 at 20:57, Dr The Singh said: Puel's history of bringing in real talent will be tested in Xmas......the likes of Maguire, Chilwell and Maddison will be hot property, with city languishing around 10th, I can see them leave for good money. Do we trust Puel with £_££££ Based on recent history they won't be going anywhere. On 16/10/2018 at 12:14, Lovejoy said: @UpTheLeagueFox Do you know anything that suggests that Puel is on thin ice, or is he likely to make it to the summer? We should all know by now that nothing gets leaked from the club by anyone in a position of responsibility. There may be mutterings from the players but I reckon that's it at best. 14 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 18 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: We should all know by now that nothing gets leaked from the club by anyone in a position of responsibility. There may be mutterings from the players but I reckon that's it at best. Football clubs want things leaking out which suits their own agendas - just as agents, managers, players etc do for their own reasons. Several times I've been asked by clubs if I could post something on a forum or social media but without linking it to them directly. This stuff happens. You trade with these people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 5 hours ago, Bunyip said: If they got every appointment right then why the sackings ? You don't sack someone if they are getting it right?. That makes them wrong for the sackings then ? as I said it's their Achilles heel. Jobs are finite, especially in football, and sometimes (as in the post you quoted) people come in to do a job and they’re not right for the next job. Maybe you can keep us up but can’t use tactics of your own; maybe you can manage Pearson’s squad to the title but not build your own squad; maybe you’re a superb team-builder but you’re unpopular with the media and have a career-ending son. No one leaves managerial jobs these days-it’s too lucrative to be sacked (see also Conte at Chelsea). So firing well is as important as hiring well, and I reckon since the Sven era (aside from giving Claudio a sentimental couple of months too long) they’ve had both sides pretty much bob on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 2 hours ago, hackneyfox said: Based on recent history they won't be going anywhere. We should all know by now that nothing gets leaked from the club by anyone in a position of responsibility. There may be mutterings from the players but I reckon that's it at best. Mahrez and Kante anyone. I do remember Vardy getting a offer from the arse 3 years ago. Talent is always in demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 4 hours ago, Oxfordfox83 said: Jobs are finite, especially in football, and sometimes (as in the post you quoted) people come in to do a job and they’re not right for the next job. Maybe you can keep us up but can’t use tactics of your own; maybe you can manage Pearson’s squad to the title but not build your own squad; maybe you’re a superb team-builder but you’re unpopular with the media and have a career-ending son. No one leaves managerial jobs these days-it’s too lucrative to be sacked (see also Conte at Chelsea). So firing well is as important as hiring well, and I reckon since the Sven era (aside from giving Claudio a sentimental couple of months too long) they’ve had both sides pretty much bob on... Hmmmm, well I'm retired now, but in my 50 years of work I have never seen nor heard anyone get the sack only to be told " never mind it's all finite you see " Firing someone just shows you did not hire right in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 (edited) A draw or even a win on Monday, and this thread should hopefully be laid to rest for a few days thereafter. Edited 18 October 2018 by Wymeswold fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyrobot Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 20 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Unlike Puel. ITK?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 54 minutes ago, Bunyip said: Hmmmm, well I'm retired now, but in my 50 years of work I have never seen nor heard anyone get the sack only to be told " never mind it's all finite you see " Firing someone just shows you did not hire right in the first place. Massive oversimplification. So we didn't hire right with Ranieri, Chelsea didn't hire right with Mourinho, Monaco didn't hire right with Jardim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 10 hours ago, Bunyip said: If they got every appointment right then why the sackings ? You don't sack someone if they are getting it right?. That makes them wrong for the sackings then ? as I said it's their Achilles heel. They did clearly say at the time. Managers are suited to different situations, like Pearson was suited to building a team to come out of the championship, we did that and outgrew him. Shakespeare was suited to steadying the ship, he did that and as a result wasn't needed. Right at the time doesn't mean right for all time. Ambitions and targets change, some managers aren't suited to some targets 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropstonfox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 49 minutes ago, The Doctor said: They did clearly say at the time. Managers are suited to different situations, like Pearson was suited to building a team to come out of the championship, we did that and outgrew him. Shakespeare was suited to steadying the ship, he did that and as a result wasn't needed. Right at the time doesn't mean right for all time. Ambitions and targets change, some managers aren't suited to some targets Was shakey really given a good crack of the whip.We only ever lost to top 4-5 teams with him in chatge and played shit away at hudders.If he had overseen the last years results would he still be here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 56 minutes ago, The Doctor said: They did clearly say at the time. Managers are suited to different situations, like Pearson was suited to building a team to come out of the championship, we did that and outgrew him. Shakespeare was suited to steadying the ship, he did that and as a result wasn't needed. Right at the time doesn't mean right for all time. Ambitions and targets change, some managers aren't suited to some targets Wow, that's comforting news for the next manager then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 2 hours ago, Bunyip said: Hmmmm, well I'm retired now, but in my 50 years of work I have never seen nor heard anyone get the sack only to be told " never mind it's all finite you see " Firing someone just shows you did not hire right in the first place. Football isn’t like any normal business though. Not from the playing/management side of it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, cropstonfox said: Was shakey really given a good crack of the whip.We only ever lost to top 4-5 teams with him in chatge and played shit away at hudders.If he had overseen the last years results would he still be here? We were very poor at home to West Brom too Edited 18 October 2018 by Stadt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 18 October 2018 Share Posted 18 October 2018 2 hours ago, Bunyip said: Wow, that's comforting news for the next manager then. What do you expect? Forest had to get relegated for Clough to finally leave them-was he a bad appointment? Wenger made Arsenal a punchline for 10+ years-was he a bad appointment? Or were they both the right men who stayed until the wrong time? I can’t understand how you’re viewing football management jobs if you think anyone who is ever sacked didn’t have a value in the first place... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted 19 October 2018 Share Posted 19 October 2018 7 hours ago, Oxfordfox83 said: What do you expect? Forest had to get relegated for Clough to finally leave them-was he a bad appointment? Wenger made Arsenal a punchline for 10+ years-was he a bad appointment? Or were they both the right men who stayed until the wrong time? I can’t understand how you’re viewing football management jobs if you think anyone who is ever sacked didn’t have a value in the first place... Yes but you are quoting two managers who were there for a very long time. What's the longest any manager under our owners has lasted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 19 October 2018 Share Posted 19 October 2018 14 hours ago, Dr The Singh said: Mahrez and Kante anyone. I do remember Vardy getting a offer from the arse 3 years ago. Talent is always in demand How long did it take for Mahrez to force a move? Talent is always in demand, my point was that our owners won't let said talent leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 19 October 2018 Share Posted 19 October 2018 2 hours ago, Bunyip said: Yes but you are quoting two managers who were there for a very long time. What's the longest any manager under our owners has lasted? What’s that got to do with anything??! Let’s keep it to one simple question to see if I understand your point of view: was Claudio Ranieri a bad appointment in 2015, just because he was sacked 20 months later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 19 October 2018 Share Posted 19 October 2018 13 hours ago, cropstonfox said: Was shakey really given a good crack of the whip.We only ever lost to top 4-5 teams with him in chatge and played shit away at hudders.If he had overseen the last years results would he still be here? Defeats were expected against Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal I agree, but it’s the level of performances against the likes of Huddersfield, Bournemouth and West Brom that were expected to have cancelled them out, but only got us 3 points from 9 and were generally inept. I argued on here for giving Shakey more time, but I admit I was wrong. Lovely guy, amazing service for us, but as a manager he just didn’t have enough new ideas to move us forward and I don’t think the Thais were willing to risk letting that pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted 19 October 2018 Share Posted 19 October 2018 2 hours ago, Oxfordfox83 said: What’s that got to do with anything??! Let’s keep it to one simple question to see if I understand your point of view: was Claudio Ranieri a bad appointment in 2015, just because he was sacked 20 months later? Ranieri was just a lucky Jockey who rode an already winning horse. Simple enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tringfox Posted 19 October 2018 Share Posted 19 October 2018 18 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: A draw or even a win on Monday, and this thread should hopefully be laid to rest for a few days thereafter. And what if we get stuffed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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