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33 minutes ago, Tuna said:

"Platform" IE stepping stone.

 

But he also says  “ ....    Leicester are a club on the up and we’ll see where they go and we’ll see where I go ...  “    which is fairly reasonable imo.    Bottom line, if we don’t show ambition then top players won’t come or if here already will leave.  The wider picture for me (and slightly off topic) is who controls the club in the future...   and that might be decided in another country a few thousand miles away. 

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His points are fair and I have no doubt he’s committed to us until the end of this season, but I do wish he’d stop mentioning his ambition and ‘we’ll see’ in every interview he does. Just feels a bit Mahrez-like albeit going about it in a nicer way.

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1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

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Millwall away must have been tough. 2-0 defeat, two men sent off, a mere 8,494 crowd and a long slog back to the north contemplating being seven points from safety in the Championship. Derby at home, after which the manager was sacked, was no fun either. Defeats by Brentford, Charlton, Cardiff, Middlesbrough, Watford equally grim.

This was 2015, and Harry Maguire was a 22-year-old centre-half, on loan at Wigan having failed to establish himself in the Premier League at Hull City. Three years later he was scoring in a World Cup quarter-final. Football’s a ladder, says Harry. Believe and keep climbing step by step.

There’s a reason why the square-jawed, square-shouldered, squarely normal Sheffielder has been club player of the year in five of his past seven seasons, for three different teams, and is loved by terracing and dressing room alike. It’s not just that he’s a very good player. It’s that others see the groundedness yet the ascent.

Maguire became the darling of England supporters at the World Cup last summer and, a perceptive type (with seven A or A* GCSEs), he understands his appeal well. It’s “probably my journey of coming in and playing games in League One and building my way up the ladder,” he says. “And the way I want to play the game.”

It’s easy to forget that England’s opening match in Russia was only Maguire’s second competitive international. Before long he was such a national treasure that a picture of him talking to a pretty fan after that Sweden quarter-final became — and remains — a ubiquitous social media meme.

Harry is so ordinary that the jokes (including a famous tweet by Kyle Walker) were based around him using England celebrity as a chat-up line, as any lad might. When really the supposed groupie was his fiancée, Fern, a first-class honours grad and his partner since they were teens.

“The funny thing was, people thought I was speaking to a random girl in the crowd,” Maguire smiles. “[Fern] is not happy that it keeps getting passed around because she’d just been soaked in beer. But it’s great, it’s fun, I keep seeing it flying around Twitter all the time.”

The interesting thing is that even in those dog days at Wigan, Maguire had conviction he could rise to England stardom. He dreamt this even at the start of his career, playing three full seasons for Sheffield United in League One. His loan period at Wigan happened because, having joined Hull before the start of the 2014-15 season, Maguire reached mid-February without starting a Premier League game. That conviction made him take action.

“I was knocking on the manager’s [Steve Bruce’s] door every other week asking, ‘what’s happening, why aren’t I in the squad?’ He was saying, ‘be patient’ and I kept saying, ‘I want to go on loan’. Eventually he gave in to me. I wanted to go out and play games, I was used to playing games,” Maguire recalls.

“I didn’t [doubt myself]. Michael Dawson always said, ‘be patient, I have great belief you’re going to the very top’.” In League One, “you always vision it. You feel you can do it. It seems a long, long way away but ask any young player playing in the lower leagues, they always dream of playing for England.”

Hard climb: Maguire made 172 appearences in the Football League before his first Premier League startDARREN STAPLES

The key is remembering the ladder. “I can’t be sent on loan and thinking I’m going to play for England. It doesn’t work like that. I get sent to Wigan and my next step is do well at Wigan. Get in the Hull team. Stay in the Hull team and play week in, week out. And then you see where it goes from there. It’s step by step.”

Maguire made 172 Football League appearances before finally starting in the Premier League, in October 2016. In fact, 20 of England’s World Cup 23 were developed or played on loan in the EFL, where youth development funding has risen almost one-third over five years — 36% of starting appearances in the Championship this season were made by under-21s who are eligible to play for England.

Maguire symbolises the opportunities on offer there and the scope to build character outside the pampered top flight. He describes his first professional goal — a header from a corner against Oldham — with the clarity of yesterday. He remarks, “every game in League One made me a better player”.

And he is still wedded to the EFL as a fan, attending Sheffield United games when possible. He was in the home end at Bramall Lane for the Sheffield derby last season and last went when United were beaten 2-1 by West Brom in December. He and James Maddison struck a charity bet: whether United or Norwich (Maddison’s former club) will finish higher this season.

Leicester suits him, still a grounded club. A new £100m training ground is coming but, for now, the players still practise at Belvoir Drive, small fields bordered by modest streets, and there are rituals that remain from the days before Leicester won the Premier League. Like Jamie Vardy’s game of lurking in the dressing room, possibly hiding in the bath, to jump out and chuck wet socks at the unsuspecting who enter. “I wouldn’t say he’s grown out of it, no,” Maguire reports. “Vards is always up to some sort of prank. If you walk in the changing room, just be aware. And maybe put a shield on sometimes.”

What of Leicester’s season? They are in 11th place, having recorded wins against Chelsea and Manchester City. Yet defeats by Cardiff City and Newport County (in the FA Cup) and a great performance at Liverpool (where Maguire scored in a 1-1 draw) have come amid a run of four defeats in five.

Manager Claude Puel’s position is under consideration. Maguire’s verdict: “We’ve been too inconsistent. Our highs have been really high and our lows have not been good enough. So when we’re playing against the teams we’re expected to beat at home and we’re not performing, you understand the fans not being happy. It’s something we need to work on.”

After Leicester rebuffed interest from Manchester United, Maguire extended his contract in September. “Leicester gave me a great platform to go and play at a World Cup, reach the semi-final of a World Cup. If it weren’t for Leicester maybe I wouldn’t have done that. So repaying them is important. There was no doubt in my mind I was going to be loyal and start the season off with Leicester.”

They are, he says, “a great club, a club that’s on a ladder and still rising. I still feel it can go places.” Even after winning a title? He nods. “I see it as Leicester, three or four years ago, were trying to stay in the Premier League year in, year out. Where now I feel we’re totally different to that. We’re pushing for a top-half finish but there’s still a level we can go, that we can really hit. We can aim for the top eight, the top seven, and then obviously we’ve got to start being competitive in cup competitions as well. Start getting to finals and maybe win some silverware — I think that’s where we have to aim.”

The difficult question. He’s now 25, wants to taste the Champions League, wants to win medals — so can he fulfil his ambitions at the King Power? “Every young player wants to play at the top level,” says Maguire. “At the moment I take everything step by step and concentrate game by game and see where it takes me.

“Like I said, Leicester are a club on the up and we’ll see where they go and we’ll see where I go.”

Keep climbing those rungs.

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3 hours ago, brucey said:

His points are fair and I have no doubt he’s committed to us until the end of this season, but I do wish he’d stop mentioning his ambition and ‘we’ll see’ in every interview he does. Just feels a bit Mahrez-like albeit going about it in a nicer way.

 

Those seem like fair enough things to say though. He doesn’t put all his eggs in one basket and doesn’t show us (IMO) any disrespect. It has to be tricky being put on the spot week after week by journalists who are looking for that one slip up. 

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Unpopular opinion but his lack of concentration has cost us more often than not this season. He’s away at sea for some of our goals conceded.

 

Gaurded by his reputation this season most definitely.

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8 minutes ago, KFS said:

Unpopular opinion but his lack of concentration has cost us more often than not this season. He’s away at sea for some of our goals conceded.

 

Gaurded by his reputation this season most definitely.

Yep. And I've said this all along, always felt he is overrated by large parts of our fanbase.

 

What was he doing today. Pushed up so high he's literally in front of the player he's supposed to be marking.

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I said in the off-season we should swap him for Rashford. We have the CBs, a natural striker like Rashford with his speed would have been incredible for us. Still too late now.

 

We can still get 60m for him in the summer I reckon. He's a very good player and ideal for a team like Manchester or Liverpool.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, reynard said:

Gone in the summer. We won't get much more than 30 million as the market is starting to fall.

We turned down a bid of £65m in the summer, why would we accept half that?

 

If his value drops due to form then he stays, if his value rises massively due to form then we get tempted by a huge offer. 

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6 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

We turned down a bid of £65m in the summer, why would we accept half that?

 

If his value drops due to form then he stays, if his value rises massively due to form then we get tempted by a huge offer. 

There is a theory that the whole transfer market is dropping. We will see but he's not worth 65 million. There will always be premium transfers for the very best players but clubs have had enough of over paying for players, hence the high number of loans taking place.

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People saying he is gone in the summer... there needs to be a buyer. 

 

Can someone name a club in the top 6 who would want him to spend 50m on him? 

 

The only real interest was Man United and they appear to have better targets now.

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If we have to sell a player for biggish money this summer we should really hope it's him. Amongst the best in the league at bringing the ball out from the back but he's no better than the vast majority of standard PL centrebacks otherwise. Hell I imagine our defensive record with him in the team is actually pretty terrible. Were it not for his memetastic world cup campaign I don't think there'd be any hype or even prospect of selling him whatsoever. If any club really is daft enough to offer around 40m or above we should snatch their hand off!

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19 hours ago, FIF said:

I said in the off-season we should swap him for Rashford. We have the CBs, a natural striker like Rashford with his speed would have been incredible for us. Still too late now.

 

We can still get 60m for him in the summer I reckon. He's a very good player and ideal for a team like Manchester or Liverpool.

 

 

Rashford was never, ever coming here.

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