Puel In / Out Poll (12/01/19)

[martyn]

10 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said:

Who the **** is voting in? What vision are you even seeing? We are so wank it's hilarious. No doubt it's people that don't actually have to endure watching that shit.

Me.

 

We are safe from relegation.

 

On the whole his signings have been decent, and there is a clear vision in terms of developing young talent. Yes it can be a tough watch at times, especially if you only see home games, but he deserves another window to address the imbalances in our squad and let's see where we go.

 

The only way we should be firing him now is if there is an identified successor who shares the long term vision of the club. Else you run a real risk if you abandon that plan and instead end up on the manager carousel, which eventually catches up with you.

 

Not saying this is your view, but I've read too many comments from those who want him out who seem to assume a return to the counter attacking football of the (first half of the) title winning season is as easy as clicking your fingers. They'll be sorely disappointed to find out it's not so easy.

Edited 12 January 2019 by martyn

[Bunyip]

I'm just wondering, all of those posters who are complaining about this poll post, why are you even posting a reply.  surely it's easier just to ignore?

[UPinCarolina]

Just now, Bunyip said:

I'm just wondering, all of those posters who are complaining about this poll post, why are you even posting a reply.  surely it's easier just to ignore?

Because we’re sick and tired of this ridiculous dross clogging the board?

[FoxesDeb]

10 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said:

Who the **** is voting in? What vision are you even seeing? We are so wank it's hilarious. No doubt it's people that don't actually have to endure watching that shit.

Someone who has a season ticket and has seen far worse than this. Someone who can see what he is trying to do, and wants to support him in his vision. Someone who is prepared to back the lads, in good times and in bad. 

That's who. 

[lifted*fox]

1 minute ago, FoxesDeb said:

Someone who has a season ticket and has seen far worse than this. Someone who can see what he is trying to do, and wants to support him in his vision. Someone who is prepared to back the lads, in good times and in bad. 

That's who. 

 

cheers to that debs

 

some rare sense amongst the madness

[Bunyip]

2 minutes ago, martyn said:

Me.

 

We are safe from relegation.

 

On the whole his signings have been decent, and there is a clear vision in terms of developing young talent. Yes it can be a tough watch at times, especially if you only see home games, but he deserves another window to address the imbalances in our squad and let's see where we go.

 

The only way we should be firing him now is if there is an identified successor who shares the long term vision of the club. Else you run the real risk if you abandon that plan and instead ending up the manager carousel, which eventually catches up with you.

 

Not saying this is your view, but I've read too many comments from those who want him out who seem to assume a return to the counter attacking football of the (first half of the) title winning season is as easy as clicking your fingers. They'll be sorely disappointed to find out it's not so easy.

You are correct. It's going to take a miracle worker to shake off his boring negative football and his mind-numbing tactics and weird team selections. But I bet you once he's given the boot that's exactly what the new manager will do just by clicking his fingers.

[Walkerfox]

Just now, Bunyip said:

I'm just wondering, all of those posters who are complaining about this poll post, why are you even posting a reply.  surely it's easier just to ignore?

Just pointing out the fault in putting it up not even an hour after a defeat. You're obviously gonna get bias replies. Do it mid-week when the last game has been and gone and we're looking forward to the next game.

 

That's if you want a fair result though and not just a complete slagging off of the manager which is what this seems to be, in which case don't even make it a poll. 

[Le god]

Just get rid... Puel will always be divisive. 

 

The results and position are never that bad that all fans want him out

 

And if he does somehow get a few wins together, the football is so negative and boring that a large percentage of fans want him out anyway 

 

He shouldn't be the public face of Leicester City fc... The man has no personality and is unable to inspire any player 

[Master Fox]

2 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Someone who has a season ticket and has seen far worse than this. Someone who can see what he is trying to do, and wants to support him in his vision. Someone who is prepared to back the lads, in good times and in bad. 

That's who. 

Same as that.

 

Building for next season. 

 

Not sure why everyone is getting so worked up. 

[UPinCarolina]

1 minute ago, Bunyip said:

You are correct. It's going to take a miracle worker to shake off his boring negative football and his mind-numbing tactics and weird team selections. But I bet you once he's given the boot that's exactly what the new manager will do just by clicking his fingers.

I can’t tell if you think you’re being profound and clever, or...

[kingfox]

He'll probably go but individual errors by our own players will have cost him his job.

 

Not his fault that Mendy was an utter idiot today.

Not his fault that certain players don't step up to the plate *cough* Maddison.

[martyn]

1 minute ago, Bunyip said:

You are correct. It's going to take a miracle worker to shake off his boring negative football and his mind-numbing tactics and weird team selections. But I bet you once he's given the boot that's exactly what the new manager will do just by clicking his fingers.

Yep, wish we still had big Shakey in charge. He managed to maintain the scintillating levels we reached against Liverpool and Sevilla after Claudio.

 

And who can forget Puel himself who played a superb fast counter attacking style in his first few games after replacing a team labouring under.......?

[somebum]

Voted out, last season it was a case of "let's see what happens next year" but now it's "give him til next year He needs players, time". It's like waiting for the 2nd coming

[Tielemans63]

Whoever comes in will face the same problems as Puel does right now.

 

There'd be a new manager bounce, no doubt but once that manager tries to evolve the team or style of play he will encounter the same problems whereby the players allow their performance levels to drop just enough to make life difficult for the manager. It's self-preservation from our senior pros and it happened when Claudio tried to change things, it happened under Shakey and it's happening now Claude is trying to change things.

 

We need to back a manager IMHO or we'll end up in this perennial cycle of hiring and firing without ever properly evolving. Just because that's how other clubs operate, doesn't mean we should.

 

Some of the decisions Claude makes make me want to punch myself in the face but I can see that he's got the right ideas in terms of moving out the dead wood so personally I'd like to see him backed otherwise that dead wood will still be in the squad getting paid a wedge in 12 months time just under a different manager and round we'll go again.

[UniFox21]

20 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

So why don't you wait until the next win and start a poll?

 

For the record, I think both the poll and all of the dramatic grand standing threads after every result are actually shit. 

 

I think they're shit when we win and shit when we lose because right now this place is just full of two teams of absolutist retards that see no shades of gray and are just taking it in turns after every game to go HA I TOLD YOU SO. 

 

The Puel In mob that were insufferably smug after the Man City and Everton wins are just as awful as the Puel Out mob that are insufferably smug after games like today and Cardiff. 

 

The place is more polarised than it was even when Pearson nearly took us down. 

 

But like it or loathe it, that is what foxestalk is. Its a (relative) free for all. There's no iq test or decent poster test before you get to give an opinion or start a thread, else all of the "football intellectuals" that think they're some kind of genius for not being "knee jerk" and wanting Puel out would be be extremely surprised to find their posting rights removed along with all of the idiots starting these polls every loss. 

 

But the bottom line is, every single one of them is Leicester, every single one of them has a right to an opinion and every single one of them is here to voice it. 

 

There's no constructive posts, there's no purpose to post other than sharing. But getting pissed off with people for being pissed off after a loss or being happy after a win is just ****ing stupid. Nobody is forcing anyone to read this shit. Log off, go play with your kids, take the dog for a walk, go see your mates. And leave those that want to bitch on here bitch. 

 

 

I've ran out of reacts for today, but this is a brilliant post. 

Fully agree with everything you've said here. 

 

The forum is sadly two opposite sides digging at each other. 

Probably shouldn't have dived in to sh1t on the poll when I did, just sick of seeing people kick the "Puel out" ball when we lose and go missing when we win. 

But as you said, it isn't worth it.

[whoareyaaa]

Just get Pearson back temporary for the rest of the season, we ain't going anywhere under Puel I've decided.

[ousefox]

25 minutes ago, knitro said:

saying 'Puel Out' isn't a criticism. It's whining for whining's sake, and this thread is emblematic of the mentality. What's constructive about it? Let's fire another manager, have a 4th one come in, reassess our players and make so there's another 18 months before something coherent can happen.

I'm sure people can give you a list of constructive criticism for Puel. He hasn't changed one bit since the end of last season.

 

You think something coherent is happening now? That seems a very strange word to use. Is it his youth policy plan? Like someone said in another thread, only Chillwell seems to have improved under him; everybody else's development seems to have stalled, and some like N'didi, seem to have regressed.

 

If you seriously enjoy watching this I consider your boredom threshold is something else.

 

I actually wouldn't sack him until the end of the season as it doesn't matter now and there may be better options in the summer but we now have nearly half a season worth of barely competitive friendlies to endure. Enjoy!

[Carl the Llama]

Voted in.

[DennisNedry]

When he was appointed in the first place I was very disappointed. He was and still is very uninspiring. He has no charisma and is boring as hell to listen to.

 

As a result, he has a far higher bar to reach to please me than perhaps other managers would.

 

I'm not saying that's fair or even makes sense, it's just how I feel.

[Suzie the Fox]

13 minutes ago, Mark said:

Last poll was on the 15th December, then 16th September. Unless I'm mistaken, very much not every game.

 

Out and not entitled.

An exaggeration on my part it’s not every loss there wasn’t one after the Cardiff game. The loss prior to that was mid December. 

 

I’ve said my feelings and if your good with it then fine 

 

In and not deluded 

 

 

[Poznan34]

In.

 

Can we have a bit of patience? Today wasn't great but I don't see how sacking him mid season helps. Things aren't that bad. Evaluate at the end of the season for me. 

[Foxes1]

If he goes the person who was responsible for appointing him as well our DOF Jon Rudkin should go

 

Edited 12 January 2019 by Foxes1

[FLAN]

Voted out but happy to accept I just don’t understand the progress we are making 

 

[LCFCtotheprem]

I don’t get people saying we are building. We haven’t improved at his style of football in the last 18 months. Majority of our goals and points have come from counter attacking football. Yes Puel is bringing through young players, but removing all creativity and confidence they have 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

How about the players take some responsibility for shit marking, poor/slow passing, shit crosses and crap finishing?

 

And how about we cut them some slack. It must be tough at the moment, and many are young lads. 

 

*I am also as frustrated as anyone, but are still 7th... and where our budget probably places us.