Hamza Choudhury the Trailblazer

[foxy boxing]

As long as he keeps working at his craft and given plenty of opportunities in the team, hopefully he will become a regular. why there aren't more British asians coming through the football acadamies is a mystery.

[Wolfox]

51 minutes ago, murphy said:

 

I think you're right, that asian kids are often steered toward professional jobs.

 

I remember Sunday afternoon kickabouts on Viccy Park about 20 years ago, I was fcking mustard by the way as @Wolfox will testify and sometimes we'd join in with those typical 40 a side games and a lot of those kids were asian and would make right mugs out of us.  I'm really surprised that no one from that background has really come through in that time.

You were really fvcking something Dave - mustard wasn’t the first condiment that sprang to mind!!!

[That_Dude]

His tackling ability is something else and he's showing constant signs of progress. Delighted to have him in the squad.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

4 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

As long as he keeps working at his craft and given plenty of opportunities in the team, hopefully he will become a regular. why there aren't more British asians coming through the football acadamies is a mystery.

Coincidentally, Copa90 discussed this last week. 

 

[Analysethis]

Love Hamza.

 

I remember when he was a kid and everyone said he had a real quality lad coming through who had a fantastic pass in him. We havent seen much of that but I reckon once he gets a proper run in the team and gets confident enough to express himself I think we could have a real all round midfielder.

[SheppyFox]

He’s doing very well. 

[Nicolo Barella]

5 hours ago, Spudulike said:

The likes of Hamza and the other academy kids (Chilwell, Barnes) are going to save the club a fortune on transfer fees.

 

How much are those 3 worth in todays market ??

Anywhere between 70 and 120 million I reckon

[Grebfromgrebland]

Chatting to Asians who are involved in the game say there's still a fair bit of racism which hold back their careers.

 

I don't know if it's true but I've heard it a few times.

 

[baldeagle]

The more I watch that Liverpool tackle the more it looks like a turbo suddenly kicks in . He moving pretty fast then suddenly it almost looks like his speed doubles up and he catches him 

[StriderHiryu]

1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Chatting to Asians who are involved in the game say there's still a fair bit of racism which hold back their careers.

 

I don't know if it's true but I've heard it a few times.

 

This is true in the sense that at many academy's and lower level teams and clubs, asian players are considered inferior, not to mention just out and out racism from some supporters / people at the club. This doesn't just apply to players with Indian / Pakistani heritage but also oriental players too. Neil Etheridge of Cardiff for example is I think is one of the only south east asian players in the league?

 

But that said, black players had it way harder. Luckily it's not something I have experienced in person, but some of the abuse you saw in the 70's / 80's to players like Barnes and co was absolutely disgraceful. Players like him and the "three degrees" at West Brom have my eternal respect. To go through that takes balls of steel. Justin Fashanu also deserved a ton of credit, the first gay footballer and black and playing in the 80's. The circumstances around his death obviously leave quite a shadow, but again the sort of abuse he had to put up with was horrendous.

 

To be honest one of the reasons I love Leicester as a city and as a club is that racism isn't too commonplace. There are some incidents but on the whole I feel like in Leicester and at games, people don't care about your skin colour. Which is how it should be! Just a shame that last season I think some fans were ejected for homophobic chanting at Brighton fans. I didn't hear any myself, but I hate that sort of stuff in football.

[Vardinio'sCat]

 

I hate to drag this thread down, but the lad needs to get some wigs in, and knock them out at a tenner a pop. If he doesn't, someone else will. 

 

Things are looking good for him, did I hear he has kids already? Nice to see that bit of maturity and stability going forward, because he is going to be in the spotlight, given his background (and his quality). Given he has just gone toe to toe with some top sides, he is clearly going to be good enough for the PL.

 

That is a massive step forward for him, and although I wouldn't start him every week just yet, I couldn't be more pleased for him and the club.

Edited 2 February 2019 by Vardinio'sCat

[Strokes]

2 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

Anywhere between 70 and 120 million I reckon

And how much for the other two?

[hamptonfox]

Hamza is the best Centre Midfield player we have, he is an absolute star. Lord knows why the Manager plays Mendy and Ndidi in front of him. Scandalous.

[baldeagle]

1 minute ago, hamptonfox said:

Hamza is the best Centre Midfield player we have, he is an absolute star. Lord knows why the Manager plays Mendy and Ndidi in front of him. Scandalous.

Well at least he’s playing him . He’d still be playing u23 football with other managers 

[Hanan96]

Most Asian were struggle with physical aspect with their smaller body, especially height. Coincidentally, they excel more in sport which need less both height advantage and physical tussles like Badminton (China South korean, Indonesia), cricket (India), Volleyball (Japanese, Korean) and martial arts 

Football seems look less appealing for professional ones

[Koke]

A lot of South Americans are also small in stature (Tevez, Messi, Mascherano etc) but that hasn't stopped them being world class footballers. In football you can be 5'6 and be a better player than someone who's 6'2. 

 

Also, Europeans and Africans don't have a monopoly on height and muscle. 

[Tanya]

Eden Hazard looks small. He's not a bad footballer.

 

Football, unlike say basketball, is not a sport that is stacked against smaller, slighter people.

[Guest]

Incredible talent.

 

England's first Asian captain in a few years time.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Think we need to tap the brakes just a little with regards to Hamza. He has some great attributes, but there are also parts of his game that still need some development.

[smr]

To me I've seen Hamza intercept, tackle brilliantly, hold the ball, control it well and pass it around nicely, even finding a few acute angle passes and through balls at times. 

Why then are we playing Wilf? He's gone off, his touch is jittery now, his distribution is even worse. Yes he can muck in and win the ball well enough but Mendy does that too - if Puel insists on playing two CDMs then can we at least play one with a bit of creativity and flair as well. 

I'd rather see Hamza and Mendy together.

[Guest]

On 02/02/2019 at 10:53, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Think we need to tap the brakes just a little with regards to Hamza. He has some great attributes, but there are also parts of his game that still need some development.

Breaking news* Young player who has just made his breakthrough into the first team has some parts of his game that still need some development.

 

He should be starting every game between now and the end of the season in place of either Mendy or Ndidi and starting to get the experience which will allow his game to develop. He has rare skills in the same way that Kanté had rare skills. Let's gerrimin.

[Woodsey1727]

Should be starting every game, simple as

[willie-bell-in-rothley]

On 02/02/2019 at 09:53, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Think we need to tap the brakes just a little with regards to Hamza. He has some great attributes, but there are also parts of his game that still need some development.

Not so long ago people were saying that about Chilwell , he played himself into an undroppable England left back

[Captain...]

On 02/02/2019 at 08:41, Koke said:

A lot of South Americans are also small in stature (Tevez, Messi, Mascherano etc) but that hasn't stopped them being world class footballers. In football you can be 5'6 and be a better player than someone who's 6'2. 

 

Also, Europeans and Africans don't have a monopoly on height and muscle. 

Agreed, but South American players generally develop in South America playing other South American kids. Same with Korea and Japan.

 

In the UK British Asians are competing in British leagues where strength and athleticism is still often prioritised over technique. This is why black players made the breakthrough despite the racism and discrimination and being denied opportunities to develop the technical side of the game, their physical attributes made it impossible to ignore talented Black players.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

On 04/02/2019 at 06:41, FIF said:

Breaking news* Young player who has just made his breakthrough into the first team has some parts of his game that still need some development.

 

He should be starting every game between now and the end of the season in place of either Mendy or Ndidi and starting to get the experience which will allow his game to develop. He has rare skills in the same way that Kanté had rare skills. Let's gerrimin.

I agree. He should be playing. But you and others hyping him up and comparing him to Kante will only heap unfair pressure and unrealistic expectations upon him.