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2 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

It’s the fact Utd are messing around though. Pay up and he’s there’s. The end of the window is edging closer and closer.

You talk as if we've not done anything similar.

 

We'll haggle over prices and sound players out. If we didnt we would have reported united. 

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Just now, Abrasive fox said:

You talk as if we've not done anything similar.

 

We'll haggle over prices and sound players out. If we didnt we would have reported united. 

Yes, not sure why people are quite so vociferous in their assumptions he shouldn't/won't be sold.

If we honestly had zero interest in selling Harry, then Man Utd would have been told he is not for sale at any price surely?

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9 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

Surprised Top hasn’t pulled the plug. Utd have been fannying around for weeks.

I believe he has and all we're seeing now is that certain members of the media don't want to believe he's not going to Man Utd and others are just trolls looking for hits on social media. 

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Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Yes, not sure why people are quite so vociferous in their assumptions he shouldn't/won't be sold.

If we honestly had zero interest in selling Harry, then Man Utd would have been told he is not for sale at any price surely?

If the stories are true that there is/was some kind of gentlemen's agreement that we would let Maguire leave if another club matched our valuation and he fancied the move, it would be difficult for us to simply refuse to sell him. Far easier to say to him, "We'll honour the agreement, but unfortunately nobody has matched our valuation yet". 

 

Besides, while Maguire is good, he's not a "not for sale at any price" player. £90m is probably just the point at which the club has calculated it is worth selling him.

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I can see why we haven't sold as of yet. Assuming Top wants a world record fee not dependent on United reaching certain conditions. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

If the stories are true that there is/was some kind of gentlemen's agreement that we would let Maguire leave if another club matched our valuation and he fancied the move, it would be difficult for us to simply refuse to sell him. Far easier to say to him, "We'll honour the agreement, but unfortunately nobody has matched our valuation yet". 

 

Besides, while Maguire is good, he's not a "not for sale at any price" player. £90m is probably just the point at which the club has calculated it is worth selling him.

 

This.

 

He isn't indispensible in the sense that Mahrez was or Vardy is and he isn't a £90 million player, even in this inflated market.

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Should definitely give Mags a nice pay rise if he doesn't move. Isn't right to rate his value so highly and not pay him what you say he's worth

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1 minute ago, LinekersApples said:

He’s very well paid and has a 4 year contract.

 

We can put whatever price we wish onto an employee of the club, whatever they earn. 

 

You still think he's staying? 

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Just now, LinekersApples said:

He’s very well paid and has a 4 year contract.

 

We can put whatever price we wish onto an employee of the club, whatever they earn. 

Oh yeah, of course we can do that.

 

I have no idea what he's on to be fair, but if we're saying "Harry you're worth 80-90 million to us" then he should be on 125-150k a week at least. If he's already on that then fair enough :D

 

 

Harry doesn't seem the type to kick up a fuss to be fair, seems to have a good head on his shoulders. If we did value him highly and not pay him the going rate though he's going to have people in his ear constantly telling him that, eventually it'll get to him.

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6 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Oh yeah, of course we can do that.

 

I have no idea what he's on to be fair, but if we're saying "Harry you're worth 80-90 million to us" then he should be on 125-150k a week at least. If he's already on that then fair enough :D

 

 

Harry doesn't seem the type to kick up a fuss to be fair, seems to have a good head on his shoulders. If we did value him highly and not pay him the going rate though he's going to have people in his ear constantly telling him that, eventually it'll get to him.

90k a week.

 

4.7m a year.

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With our last pre-season game in two days we must be mighty close to having reached our deadline to sell Maguire already.

Any replacement for him now will have  an inflated cost and no chance to integrate the player before the Prem starts. 

 

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3 minutes ago, hamptonfox said:

With our last pre-season game in two days we must be mighty close to having reached our deadline to sell Maguire already.

Any replacement for him now will have  an inflated cost and no chance to integrate the player before the Prem starts. 

 

I'm thinking this too. Any ITKs got any idea when this self imposed deadline is, if it's really a thing at all? 

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Just now, LinekersApples said:

I’ve never been convinced United will pay our price and had been told that deadline has passed.

 

Others who are also close to the club are saying different and the mood certainly changed the other day, so I honestly don’t know. A few conflicting views. We are riding this out together!!

I really feel the nearer we get to Friday the less likely we are to sell him. It would be way too close to the season start for us to plan.  

 

I assume the nearer we do get, the more firm we stand on pricing and structuring of the payment

 

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Just now, UniFox21 said:

I really feel the nearer we get to Friday the less likely we are to sell him. It would be way too close to the season start for us to plan.  

 

I assume the nearer we do get, the more firm we stand on pricing and structuring of the payment

 

It would certainly be a surprise if we turned around at the very last minute and said, "Ok, fine - you can have him for £60m up front and £20m in add-ons that we'll never receive." Yet it seems to be Man Utd's strategy to sit around and wait for us to do precisely this.

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49 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said:

You talk as if we've not done anything similar.

 

We'll haggle over prices and sound players out. If we didnt we would have reported united. 

 

Of course we have but we’ve not gone to the lengths Man Utd have to get the price lowered. 

 

I’m not naive enough to think that Maguire’s agent isn’t heavily involved with the tactics, but this again will be pushed by Man Utd. 

 

We’ll haggle over prices, in negotiations. We’ll be priced out of certain markets and move on to the next target. This is pure sh*t-housery from Utd. 

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Just now, ClaphamFox said:

It would certainly be a surprise if we turned around at the very last minute and said, "Ok, fine - you can have him for £60m up front and £20m in add-ons that we'll never receive." Yet it seems to be Man Utd's strategy to sit around and wait for us to do precisely this.

Not understanding their views behind that tbh. 

We've made it clear we want more up front rather than in add ons. But assume they want Harry to kick up? 

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17 minutes ago, LinekersApples said:

90k a week.

 

4.7m a year.

That’s nowhere near enough for a 26 y o player valued at 90m 

 

we cant pay top wages but we can pay him the same as vardy ..... I’m uncomfortable telling a player we haven’t sold him because the buying club wouldn’t meet a v high price and then not making him close to being our highest earner 

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13 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

That’s nowhere near enough for a 26 y o player valued at 90m 

 

we cant pay top wages but we can pay him the same as vardy ..... I’m uncomfortable telling a player we haven’t sold him because the buying club wouldn’t meet a v high price and then not making him close to being our highest earner 

Throwing money at him is not the answer. 

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40 minutes ago, LinekersApples said:

90k a week.

 

4.7m a year.

 

:o ...    Buttons !!!   No wonder he wants to move ...   how could anyone live on that !!!

 

This is like living in Victorian times ...    he'll have to send his kids up the chimney to make ends meet !!

 

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From a purely footballing sense, City squad themselves must be highly excited and confidant for the coming season, just like us fans. The place must be buzzing.

Contrast this with doubt and uncertainty over at manu.(an hot and cold Pog,niggling doubts about Ole, and worst of all unrest at owners intentions)

The last must be a concern to Harry having experienced the different attitude displayed by Top, and Vichai,towards the club, than other owners.

For all there history and prestige, Harry  must be thinking is it the right time to go to utd?

Maybe he is thinking lets give it year see how it unfolds with Ole, and if I am not happy in 12 months then I can push for a move.

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