LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 12 hours ago, jammie82uk said: Why do you harbour so much hatred towards them having race horses Concern is the word , dont be so dramatic we are all big boys and girls on here , I Have seen close up what that sport does do good people and it’s not about money it’s about psychological damage it’s capable of inflicting and the all consuming nature of being involved at the top end or trying to be involved at the top end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 9 hours ago, Head Honcho said: 8 wins in 2017 42 wins in 2018 31 wins in 2019 £2,300,000 in prize money in a couple of seasons but the money will be made when their horses go to stud especially those related to Frankel and Shamardal. If King Power can win tomorrow she'll go for the Juddmonte or the Irish Oaks next. Only £40k to have a date with Camelot! 40m at least spent buddy , can you explain to me which horses in particular are more value at stud than when bought ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turtles Head 162 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 4 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: 40m at least spent buddy , can you explain to me which horses in particular are more value at stud than when bought ? Could you break down the £40m spend? Not doubting you, just curious how they’ve spent so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Markyblue Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 23 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: 40m at least spent buddy , can you explain to me which horses in particular are more value at stud than when bought ? 40m of their money that they can spend anyway they want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,733 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: 40m at least spent buddy , can you explain to me which horses in particular are more value at stud than when bought ? 22 minutes ago, Turtles Head said: Could you break down the £40m spend? Not doubting you, just curious how they’ve spent so much. Neither of you know top or the family well enough to appreciate his/their motivations. It’s true that they are unlikely to be as strong as Kuhn Vichai was but it was clear that yesterday’s scenes and interviews showed how important it was to them that they got a winner at royal ascot. I guess it’s also about his legacy and a little more closure for them. A winner at royal ascot was clearly one of vichai’s dreams.....there will certainly be others (group 1 and a classic at the bare min) ......... I wouldn’t expect top to back off supporting king power racing for some time yet .... Edited 23 June 2019 by st albans fox 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lesta2014 495 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 They also have some 2 year olds in training which they may target the Guineas and the Derby with next year! They had a 4/1 winner at Haydock last night with a 2 year olds first run. Mystery power it’s called. Going forward they may may not have as many horses in training but I think they will carry it on even if it’s smaller scale just to continue Vichai’s dreams/legacy. I love seeing king power colours on a race course. Long may that continue! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turtles Head 162 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 35 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Neither of you know top or the family well enough to appreciate his/their motivations. It’s true that they are unlikely to be as strong as Kuhn Vichai was but it was clear that yesterday’s scenes and interviews showed how important it was to them that they got a winner at royal ascot. I guess it’s also about his legacy and a little more closure for them. A winner at royal ascot was clearly one of vichai’s dreams.....there will certainly be others (group 1 and a classic at the bare min) ......... I wouldn’t expect top to back off supporting king power racing for some time yet .... I just wondered how the money was spent. How well do you know the family? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dyanmark 109 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 I'm no expert but entry fees and training costs jockeys etc must be a fair wedge on top of the purchase prices. We used to say that yacht racing was akin to 'standing in a cold shower tearing up £10 notes' -this sounds very similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post foxfanazer 13,647 Posted 23 June 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 (edited) Anybody else considered that it's their money to do with what they want. Another case of football fans thinking they own everybody associated with their club Edited 23 June 2019 by foxfanazer 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bluetintedspecs 2,312 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 1 hour ago, dyanmark said: I'm no expert but entry fees and training costs jockeys etc must be a fair wedge on top of the purchase prices. We used to say that yacht racing was akin to 'standing in a cold shower tearing up £10 notes' -this sounds very similar. We used to say the same about Unicorn Racing but we had many groats so ran with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 2 hours ago, st albans fox said: Neither of you know top or the family well enough to appreciate his/their motivations. It’s true that they are unlikely to be as strong as Kuhn Vichai was but it was clear that yesterday’s scenes and interviews showed how important it was to them that they got a winner at royal ascot. I guess it’s also about his legacy and a little more closure for them. A winner at royal ascot was clearly one of vichai’s dreams.....there will certainly be others (group 1 and a classic at the bare min) ......... I wouldn’t expect top to back off supporting king power racing for some time yet .... Ya it meant a lot to them , I hope they keep having winners and maybe go onto be owner breeders and enjoy the sport that way without it becoming all consuming , I’m told Top isn’t keen it’s the Other brother that’s likely to keep involved in racing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 2 hours ago, Markyblue said: 40m of their money that they can spend anyway they want. It’s peanuts to them it’s not the money that bothers me it’s the potential for racing to become a major distraction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 2 hours ago, Markyblue said: 40m of their money that they can spend anyway they want. Easy go on racing post website and you can add up all the public purchases the private ones the figures are well known in the industry , then count up the be number of horses and its roughly 3000 per month for each one in training say £40,000 a year including vat ..... £40m May actually be an underestimate , BUT its peanuts to them the money doesn’t bother me it’s the intense nature of highend racing that is a concern it’s all consuming and has broken some of the greats, so glad they got that winner yesterday it meant to much to honour Vichai , I’d love if the filly today wins the Italian Oaks and I think she will , she is a cracking bet , and then she can let them start a proper owner breeder set up and hopefully become a hobby and not all consuming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 19 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said: We used to say the same about Unicorn Racing but we had many groats so ran with it. Who was behind that syndicate was it the insurance lads in london ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goose2010 2,230 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 (edited) You wait until they purchase Leicester racecourse and re develop it to be one of the best around, as according to a lot of people thats their plan after the training ground and ground is complete Edited 23 June 2019 by goose2010 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bluetintedspecs 2,312 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: Who was behind that syndicate was it the insurance lads in london ? Yes you got it and also heavily backed by the Fawn lads in Narnia. Edited 23 June 2019 by Bluetintedspecs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 1 hour ago, goose2010 said: You wait until they purchase Leicester racecourse and re develop it to be one of the best around, as according to a lot of people thats their plan after the training ground and ground is complete Now that would be a good racing investment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 1 hour ago, Bluetintedspecs said: Yes you got it and also heavily backed by the Fawn lads in Narnia. But the horn was had by all ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,733 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 3 hours ago, Turtles Head said: I just wondered how the money was spent. How well do you know the family? I rather suspect that anyone who does wouldn’t find themselves on here ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Master Fox 1,350 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 Rudkin pulled a blinder signing that horse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 She was last ?? £3m donkey 2 hours ago, Master Fox said: Rudkin pulled a blinder signing that horse. You joke but he is heavily involved in the horses Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Hankey 677 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 45 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: She was last ?? £3m donkey You joke but he is heavily involved in the horses and some donkeys!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LinekersLugs 1,073 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 11 minutes ago, David Hankey said: and some donkeys!! True ! Cant believe they paid near £3m for her Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UniFox21 7,627 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 7 hours ago, goose2010 said: You wait until they purchase Leicester racecourse and re develop it to be one of the best around, as according to a lot of people thats their plan after the training ground and ground is complete Would be brilliant for the city, also shows intent to stay around as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,733 Posted 23 June 2019 Report Share Posted 23 June 2019 34 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: True ! Cant believe they paid near £3m for her Come on LL .... she was bought as a yearling. She is beautifully bred (assuming frankel turns out to be a decent line). She could do with some ‘black type’ but I guess she will become a brood mare by the time she’s 5 3 mill looks like a lot when they don’t turn out to be any good on the track but as a mother she could be anything ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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