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4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

You can't argue with who has won it though for me.

 

Last season Van Dijk, and before that Salah, the season before Kante, obviously the season before Mahrez, the season before that Hazard, the season before the Suarez.

 

Which one are you debating?

 

It's all opinion, obviously, but Man City fans act as if everybody hates them.

i know you like Liverpool but you must see the irony here  lol 

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21 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

It's tough. KDB is obviously the better player but Henderson is a big part of Liverpool's team, as you said on your other post "the cog", and led them to the PL and CL.

 

I heard Pep sounding like a typical Man City fan on the radio. "Ohhh we won the league and a Liverpool player won it", when Sterling actually won it. Them lot act like spoilt kids.

From the sounds of it they've taken a big look at off the pitch activity, so they've looked at the donations and stuff done by Henderson. Think its a poor way to split players given the amount Rashford and Mane have both done. Sterling has also been vocal against racism. 

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Just now, Fox92 said:

You can't argue with who has won it though for me.

 

Last season Van Dijk, the season before Kante, obviously the season before Mahrez, the season before that Hazard, the season before the Suarez.

 

Which one are you debating?

I personally wouldn't have had Van Dijk last season, maybe Aguero or Fernandinho should off got it. Also don't see how Kompany never won it. The Man City team of the last few years I believe is the best team ever to play in the premier league so to not of won more individual awards I think shows bias towards certain clubs. 

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6 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

i know you like Liverpool but you must see the irony here  lol 

Tbf man I've gone off them since we got promoted and I see some of their fans comments more. Simarly, I never used to mind Man City but I don't like them at all now.

 

I do agree with your other post about celebrating both the CL and PL in a "year". Given they lost (knocked out) to Atletico this season.

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12 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

You can't argue with who has won it though for me.

 

Last season Van Dijk, and before that Salah, the season before Kante, obviously the season before Mahrez, the season before that Hazard, the season before the Suarez.

 

Which one are you debating?

 

It's all opinion, obviously, but Man City fans act as if everybody hates them.

 

This is a good point. 

 

It's very easy to say 'none of the smaller teams players get a look in', when the reality is invariably the bigger clubs have the best players in the league! 

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8 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

I personally wouldn't have had Van Dijk last season, maybe Aguero or Fernandinho should off got it. Also don't see how Kompany never won it. The Man City team of the last few years I believe is the best team ever to play in the premier league so to not of won more individual awards I think shows bias towards certain clubs. 

Yeah I wasn't disagreeing with you, as I said, it's all opinion so wanted to see which one you'd pick! I always thought Yaya should have won it circa 2011(?) when he first joined, his influence was massive and scored lots of important goals for them. 

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9 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Yeah I wasn't disagreeing with you, as I said, it's all opinion so wanted to see which one you'd pick! I always thought Yaya should have won it circa 2011(?) when he first joined, his influence was massive and scored lots of important goals for them. 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yaya-toure/leistungsdaten/spieler/13091/plus/0?saison=2013

 

13-14 he got 20 goals and 9 assists in 35 Prem games. He was class defensively too, was unreal that season.

 

Just comparing him to Lampard, who in 09-10 got 22 goals and 16 assists in 36 games:o

 

And here's me who will be happy if Maddison gets 7 goals 7 assists in 35 gameslol

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20 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Yeah I wasn't disagreeing with you, as I said, it's all opinion so wanted to see which one you'd pick! I always thought Yaya should have won it circa 2011(?) when he first joined, his influence was massive and scored lots of important goals for them. 

I'd forgotten about that season from Yaya, he was unstoppable for a couple of years. A really good shout that. One of my favourite players to watch play at his peak. 

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18 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yaya-toure/leistungsdaten/spieler/13091/plus/0?saison=2013

 

13-14 he got 20 goals and 9 assists in 35 Prem games. He was class defensively too, was unreal that season.

 

Just comparing him to Lampard, who in 09-10 got 22 goals and 16 assists in 36 games:o

 

And here's me who will be happy if Maddison gets 7 goals 7 assists in 35 gameslol

Proper mental how many Lampard used to score. At least 10 guaranteed from midfield every season.

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13 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

On a slight tangent - Mario Ballotelli (remember him?) is apparently off to a Serie C side. How the mighty have fallen. 

 

Has there been another player who has absolutely wasted every opportunity they had?

At his latest club, less of a case him wasting it and more being treated horridly 

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12 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

On a slight tangent - Mario Ballotelli (remember him?) is apparently off to a Serie C side. How the mighty have fallen. 

 

Has there been another player who has absolutely wasted every opportunity they had?

Ravel Morrison springs to mind straight away. I’m sure Fergie once said he was the most talented player to come through the Man Utd youth ranks whilst he was there, but continually threw away opportunities. 
There are many other examples, maybe not as high profile as Ballotelli, but Nile Ranger - I think we all remember his debut and Gary Birtles going crazy over an average debut.

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The Nations League is supposedly going to be from 5th - 8th Sep. With nations playing twice. For those teams who get to the final of the EL/CL they're barely going to have much more than 10 days before they have to join up with their countries. 

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5 minutes ago, The Bear said:

The Nations League is supposedly going to be from 5th - 8th Sep. With nations playing twice. For those teams who get to the final of the EL/CL they're barely going to have much more than 10 days before they have to join up with their countries. 

I'd like to think nations will be picking players from teams not involved with Europe, or scrapping the Nations League completely for a season or two.

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I don't think you can really say Balotelli's wasted his career. He's obviously what Nigel Pearson might call "a complex character" but he's still won league titles in two countries, won a Champions League, played for his country in the Euros and a World Cup, set up one of the most iconic goals in recent football history for Man City against QPR. No doubt he could have done more with his talent but it's not like he's not achieved anything.

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5 hours ago, The Bear said:

You did, and you were fantastic that season and clearly the best team in the league. 

 

But you can't say the instability of the top teams wasn't at least a factor, otherwise why didn't you challenge for the title the season after?

 

Like I say it was a perfect storm of a team unexpectedly having the season of their lives, and the big teams not being able to match that. 

Yeah I do take your point but there is an always an element of everything coming together whenever anyone wins anything, regardless of sport and of lever.

 

That phrase started to be used as a stick to beat us with and take away from a magnificent achievement, one of the greatest in sports history, since it implies that it means less that we won it because it happened 'that year' and that's what gets on my nerves about the 'perfect bloody storm'. It's just a convenient way to explain away how the top 6 teams stranglehold got broken one season since they don't want to accept it.

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3 minutes ago, lestajigs said:

Im supporting Bournemouth, so hopefully Watford and villa drop

I can’t work out how so few people seem to realise that if Watford and villa both (v possible) lose then any win for Bournemouth (also possible )  keeps them up 

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5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I can’t work out how so few people seem to realise that if Watford and villa both (v possible) lose then any win for Bournemouth (also possible )  keeps them up 

Bournemouth kind of have the easier game of the 3 too. 

West Ham are finishing on a high, Arsenal will not want to lose to another team down at the bottom and finish below Burnely.

 

Everton have had nothing to play for for a while now and look like they're ready for the beach 

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