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21 minutes ago, spacemunky said:

Regardless of who it benefits on any particular day, it's too much.

 

Imagine how many goals in history would be erased by VAR.

This is not VAR.

 

This is the new handball rule. VAR got it absolutely correct in accordance with the rules. If you dont like it, change the rules. Nothing to do with VAR. 

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I’m not a fan of var but if it’s being used then so be it

 

the new handball law is there to stop things like boly’s Equaliser last year against MC. No one would disagree that shouldn’t be allowed. It’s just that in two consecutive weekends, we’ve seen a minor contact with the arm lead to goals - those who think that should be let go. - where do you draw the line ?.

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I know we benefited from it last week but this handball rule (as evidenced again today) is absolute nonsense. The punishment does not fit the supposed crime. It goes against sporting justice.

 

I blame that idiot combover ref in the a World Cup final when he gave that penalty to France for that accidental handball by Perisic. He set a precedent that has actually changed the handball law to the point where it is an utter farce.

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Pointless celebrating goals now isn't it? Unless it's obvious from a dribble just sit in your chair.

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3 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

This is not VAR.

 

This is the new handball rule. VAR got it absolutely correct in accordance with the rules. If you dont like it, change the rules. Nothing to do with VAR. 

Exactly!

 

Can't blame VAR for this. It's this ****ing stupid new handball rule.

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Like many have said, fair enough disallowing the goal. It was a decision by VAR and although harsh it seems to have been correct under the letter of the law. However, that same strict application MUST now be applied to ALL hand balls in the box by defenders. I imagine we will see a record number of penalties this season. 

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I'm still for VAR and think that they'll eventually get it right after a couple of seasons and people will get used to it.

 

But even with its actual faults, they jave to be consequent. You just can't brush a blatant penalty off and disallow that goal.

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2 minutes ago, That_Dude said:

I'm still for VAR and think that they'll eventually get it right after a couple of seasons and people will get used to it.

 

But even with its actual faults, they jave to be consequent. You just can't brush a blatant penalty off and disallow that goal.

People will never get used to the jubilation of celebrating a last minute minute and seeing it brought back for something so innocuous. 

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3 minutes ago, MattP said:

Pointless celebrating goals now isn't it? Unless it's obvious from a dribble just sit in your chair.

I love last minute goals, I was rooting for Man City earlier but I didn’t even celebrate that goal, I had a feeling they’d check it and rule it out for something. It’s the correct decision, but VAR as it is currently will ruin the game. 

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6 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

This is not VAR.

 

This is the new handball rule. VAR got it absolutely correct in accordance with the rules. If you dont like it, change the rules. Nothing to do with VAR. 

Fair enough. 

 

It just seems we are getting bombarded with it now and it's taking away from the actual game.

 

They implemented a similar thing in hockey here a couple seasons ago. I have to say, even as a Canadian who's born into the religion that is hockey, I find myself watching less of it these days.

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21 minutes ago, trabuch said:

The thing is... virtually everyone in the stadium thought it was a goal. Someone watching TV decided (correctly by the rules) that it wasn't. The stadium experience is being undermined. TV is where the money is and it's TV that calls the shots. I don't like that.

I'm sure Sky aren't all that happy about Martin Tyler's pre-rehearsed commentary being ruined. On the other hand, I think it's hilarious.

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9 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Like many have said, fair enough disallowing the goal. It was a decision by VAR and although harsh it seems to have been correct under the letter of the law. However, that same strict application MUST now be applied to ALL hand balls in the box by defenders. I imagine we will see a record number of penalties this season. 

They only changed this particular aspect of the rules for handball which leads to a goal.

 

They also changed the rules to say that if the position of your hand/arms makes your body unnaturally bigger, then it is a foul. So the way they will judge this for defenders re penalties will be different.  Let’s see.

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2 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

I love last minute goals, I was rooting for Man City earlier but I didn’t even celebrate that goal, I had a feeling they’d check it and rule it out for something. It’s the correct decision, but VAR as it is currently will ruin the game. 

Same here. 

 

The joy of a late minute goal is gone now. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I'm sure Sky aren't all that happy about Martin Tyler's pre-rehearsed commentary being ruined. On the other hand, I think it's hilarious.

Funnily enough you have probably nailed the single biggest chance of this disgusting thing being banished from the game. 

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Well Pep says it needs fixing.  He didn't elaborate but as I've said before, this VAR is a leveller against the so called big teams.  They will drop points against the so called little teams this season because of VAR.

 

Just a shame it was Spurs who profited from it today lol

 

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7 minutes ago, MattP said:

People will never get used to the jubilation of celebrating a last minute minute and seeing it brought back for something so innocuous. 

You'd be surprised at what a bit of time can do. People will adapt as they always did.

 

I do agree that it's a kill joy at the moment though.

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9 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

 

Brilliant point. 

I agree - but anyone could've told you that long before it started.

 

I hate it. 

 

And yes, I like honest mistakes and the miscarriages of justice that have always happened pre VAR. Mistakes are reflective of real life, are character building and create legend, myth, controversy etc

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It’s  a goal ..  celebrate !! ....    VAR ...   gives it ...   celebrate again !!!   Brilliant !!   ....     VAR doesn’t give it ..   other team celebrates !!  ....   sounds much more fun to me ! ...    and eliminates bad decisions and fookin cheating !! ...   good by me ! ..   :thumbup:

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The problem started when we allowed slow motion replay. We either accept a game that allows for human error or not.

VAR is nothing more than an answer to us being unwilling to accept inconsistency and human nature. Perfection is human nature.

Anal retentionists and control freaks are ruining everything. :plancque:

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I'm not sure why there is so much being made of the disallowed goal, to the letter of the new laws (rightly or wrongly) the goal should have been disallowed, as it was.

 

What I think we should be discussing is how and why VAR didn't look at the Man City penalty appeal, for me there is no question, it was a penalty and it wasn't even looked at.

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47 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Beginning to come to terms with the dislike of VAR. 

It creates dramatic moments which are brilliant, but it takes away some of the incredible emotion of football 

That's it for me in a nutshell. It still isn't totally fair and you're sacrificing emotion for it. No deal.

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4 minutes ago, SO1 said:

The problem started when we allowed slow motion replay. We either accept a game that allows for human error or not.

VAR is nothing more than an answer to us being unwilling to accept inconsistency and human nature. Perfection is human nature.

Anal retentionists and control freaks are ruining everything. :plancque:

 

Human error wasn’t the problem for me ...    I’ve played football most of my life and that was never an issue ...   the problem for me is blatant cheating ...    if VAR stops that and penalises those cheating cvnts then brilliant !    The game has improved..

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This is what I don't understand - why is it the sympathy is with the Man City fans having to uncelebrate a goal because it was (correctly) ruled out, when the alternative is Spurs have dropped a point because of a goal that shouldn't have counted? Surely the right decision being made is the most important thing here? Corky made a good point earlier on that it's ironic VAR exists today because people can't accept human error, now they seem willing to accept it.

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I don't think the handball rule will last for too long.  It will be tweaked in future as it's removing an important element of the game.

 

I think a lot of fans would welcome some human error rather than this clinical approach.

 

 

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