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On 15/01/2020 at 16:29, Raw Dykes said:

At Derby, the owner, Mel Morris was spying on training with a drone. Pearson fell out with him over that.

Mel morris bought in 14 ostriches for pearson to coach

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5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

lol lol lol lol

 

I think I love Allan Saint Maximin a bit. I've kinda liked him since I first saw him play because he's absolutely mental and just does ridiculous things.

 

He's like Sol Bamba's brain in Adama Traore's body. 

 

 

Since he signed for Newcastle he's literally the only reason I watch them, it's that classic Tino Asprilla thing where nobody's got a clue what he's going to do. He's so Newcastle.

 

But it turns out he's funny and wholesome as **** too. What a dude. 

 

I'm glad we didn't sign him because I think he'd drive me insane but as a neutral, what a guy. 

Given his age he was actually decent to watch for Nice and (on lesser occasions I saw) for France U21s.

 

His Twitter is brilliant though lol 

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4 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Champions League to be expanded by four games. Player welfare doesn’t matter if FIFA and UEFA request more 

Just edging towards a full time, invite only European Super League. 

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8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Just edging towards a full time, invite only European Super League. 

Looks like the quarter finals stages may become a group stage to create fixtures between super clubs - a comparison towards an European Super League.  
 

More games equals less surprise equals quality show consistency. So these clubs like Juventus who want more money will quickly just be finishing bottom of these ‘quarter final’ groups. 
 

Change formats all they like. Even with European Super League, someone has to finish bottom and I don’t think the glory fans of these super clubs will enjoy that 

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Just now, Dahnsouff said:

 "Advised"

 

lol

Ridiculous isn’t it. They’ve been at every match and 22 games in they decide they can use them. It’s like someone’s just found the remotes to switch them on!!

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Just now, DerbyshireFox said:

Ridiculous isn’t it. They’ve been at every match and 22 games in they decide they can use them. It’s like someone’s just found the remotes to switch them on!!

Should be "Instructed to". More doubt is not what VAR needs, or referees either. (I have considerable sympathy for Referees in this era)

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Liverpool have built a brilliant team, but bloody hell these headlines make it appear Liverpool picked every player up for a few quid. They spent big on players, took risks on some others and recruited through the academy. Which is what basically every team does excluding the 'super' teams who can just buy the best players. 

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Aside from Van Dijk and Alisson Liverpool haven’t spent that much on their squad. Even then, the signing of those two took them from top 4 regulars to the best side in the world.

 

Mane and Salah costed similar amounts to what we paid for Tielemans. Firmino, if I remember correctly was a similar price to Ndidi. Milner was on a free, Henderson has been there for close to a decade and Wijnaldum was bought for a relatively modest fee from relegated Newcastle. Keita was the only expensive midfielder which is fair enough when the rest of them have been there a while.

 

Robertson, Gomez, Matip and TAA were either free or were peanuts. I despise Liverpool but they’re the most intelligent club in world football and they’re one of the most data driven. Michael Edwards is arguably the best in the business at transfer dealings 

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54 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Aside from Van Dijk and Alisson Liverpool haven’t spent that much on their squad. Even then, the signing of those two took them from top 4 regulars to the best side in the world.

 

Mane and Salah costed similar amounts to what we paid for Tielemans. Firmino, if I remember correctly was a similar price to Ndidi. Milner was on a free, Henderson has been there for close to a decade and Wijnaldum was bought for a relatively modest fee from relegated Newcastle. Keita was the only expensive midfielder which is fair enough when the rest of them have been there a while.

 

Robertson, Gomez, Matip and TAA were either free or were peanuts. I despise Liverpool but they’re the most intelligent club in world football and they’re one of the most data driven. Michael Edwards is arguably the best in the business at transfer dealings 

I'll never understand this trail of thinking, it's like saying aside from coutinho and Suarez sales their net spend is through the roof, aside from 15/16 Leicester haven't won anything for 20 years etc etc etc, aside from my dangling bits and lack of ovaries I could be a mother.

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13 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

I'll never understand this trail of thinking, it's like saying aside from coutinho and Suarez sales their net spend is through the roof, aside from 15/16 Leicester haven't won anything for 20 years etc etc etc, aside from my dangling bits and lack of ovaries I could be a mother.

Amongst a squad of 25 players they’ve made 2 (arguably 3) expensive signings. It doesn’t mean that the bulk of their transfer business is done by getting the chequebook out all of the time. Nothing is so black and white, of course there are exceptions to things but it doesn’t mean a wider point is untrue 

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3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Champions League to be expanded by four games. Player welfare doesn’t matter if FIFA and UEFA request more 

I take it the ECA have voted on this? 
From that I’d say any club voting in favour of this wave their right to complain about fixture congestion.

The top clubs/managers appear to moan constantly, then agree to 4 extra unnecessary games and travel.

4 extra games for loyal supporters to find the funds to watch their team. 4 extra games that will adversely affect national cup competitions and smaller teams.

Football should be about everyone not the few elite clubs making sure they can stay their. A sad day for football in my opinion if this is passed.

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Wider point is fair enough but without those 2 signings I doubt very much they'd be such a force, defensively they're by far their two most important players. I agree their recruitment has been brilliant, and the prices they've got for outgoings arguably even better, I just don't see how playing down the players they have spent big money on detracts or enhances the point as a whole.

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37 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Amongst a squad of 25 players they’ve made 2 (arguably 3) expensive signings. It doesn’t mean that the bulk of their transfer business is done by getting the chequebook out all of the time. Nothing is so black and white, of course there are exceptions to things but it doesn’t mean a wider point is untrue 

They have at least 5 players in their squad that they paid more than the 40 million we paid for Tielemans.

They have spent close to half a billion quid assembling their squad. They have spent it differently to other big teams and haven’t gone for over the top superstars, but to pretend they haven’t bought their position at the top is ignoring the amount they have spent.

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3 hours ago, DerbyshireFox said:

Ridiculous isn’t it. They’ve been at every match and 22 games in they decide they can use them. It’s like someone’s just found the remotes to switch them on!!

The son of a bloke I work with, is working with VAR and his job is to sit by the pitch side monitor and "manage" it. He gets to a game a week, quite a few at Molineux.

Apparently, at the start of the season, the Premier League said that they want the monitors to be used a maximum of 4 times in the season. That's 4 times across the 380 matches. 

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1 minute ago, GlenParvaFox said:

The son of a bloke I work with, is working with VAR and his job is to sit by the pitch side monitor and "manage" it. He gets to a game a week, quite a few at Molineux.

Apparently, at the start of the season, the Premier League said that they want the monitors to be used a maximum of 4 times in the season. That's 4 times across the 380 matches. 

That’s crazy isn’t it. How can they limit it to 4 times a season when you don’t know what’s going to happen in a match! Sounds like a great job though!

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29 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

I take it the ECA have voted on this? 
From that I’d say any club voting in favour of this wave their right to complain about fixture congestion.

The top clubs/managers appear to moan constantly, then agree to 4 extra unnecessary games and travel.

4 extra games for loyal supporters to find the funds to watch their team. 4 extra games that will adversely affect national cup competitions and smaller teams.

Football should be about everyone not the few elite clubs making sure they can stay their. A sad day for football in my opinion if this is passed.

Appears it’s UEFA’s way of appeasing ECA’s super league ideas 

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10 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

They have at least 5 players in their squad that they paid more than the 40 million we paid for Tielemans.

They have spent close to half a billion quid assembling their squad. They have spent it differently to other big teams and haven’t gone for over the top superstars, but to pretend they haven’t bought their position at the top is ignoring the amount they have spent.

Tielemans was £32m.
 

Yeah they’ve spent a lot. That’s football, almost every good side in history has spent significant amounts of money. Ferguson was never really accused of spending their way to titles but it was often the case.

 

Over the last 5 years Liverpool haven’t spent like either Manchester club or Chelsea and now they’re the best team in the world. Most of their players have been at the club for years and the turnover of players is really low.

 

They definitely hit the jackpot with Coutinho but they’re incredibly shrewd. Admittedly, it was before the big transfer boom by a few weeks but we paid a similar amount for Perez as what they did for Salah. 
 

IIRC they’ve got the 4th biggest wage budget too, I resent the fact I’m defending them but they’ve built the best team in the world relatively modestly 

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36 minutes ago, DerbyshireFox said:

That’s crazy isn’t it. How can they limit it to 4 times a season when you don’t know what’s going to happen in a match! Sounds like a great job though!

Exactly. When he told me that, I was expecting we'd see one or two token visits to the monitors towards the end of season but maybe that will change.

Yes, a great job which I'd fancy, but I lack the Sports Science degree! Fair play to him.

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2 hours ago, Stadt said:

Aside from Van Dijk and Alisson Liverpool haven’t spent that much on their squad. Even then, the signing of those two took them from top 4 regulars to the best side in the world.

 

Mane and Salah costed similar amounts to what we paid for Tielemans. Firmino, if I remember correctly was a similar price to Ndidi. Milner was on a free, Henderson has been there for close to a decade and Wijnaldum was bought for a relatively modest fee from relegated Newcastle. Keita was the only expensive midfielder which is fair enough when the rest of them have been there a while.

 

Robertson, Gomez, Matip and TAA were either free or were peanuts. I despise Liverpool but they’re the most intelligent club in world football and they’re one of the most data driven. Michael Edwards is arguably the best in the business at transfer dealings 

They paid £23 for Wijnaldum in 2016. In today’s currency that’s probably around £50m. Keita was around £60m and Fabinho I think cost circa £40m. 

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