Harvey Barnes

[ARM1968 2,980]

No, probably not, but we’re struggling to field a strong team anyway. 

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner 859]

9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Which add in we haven't had a single goal from a centre half this season and its quite bleak. In fact set pieces full stop we are toothless at attacking and defending. 

 

If Maddison is back in a few weeks though, there's still hope. We've only 4 games this month, 3 in the league that are all winnable without needing to be exceptional. We will have to somehow find a way to scrap for goals and get back to defending resolutely like we had up to last week. 

 

Ndidi has looked very off the pace since that herculean performance vs Liverpool. Of he and Vardy can do what they're capable of and Ricardo and Castagne also show their true quality then we still have some real class with Tielemans pulling the strings but there's so little margin for error now.

To try and stay positive I'm pinning all my hopes on us being able to accumulate enough points in the next 3 to stumble across the line to the International Break.

 

After the International Break in 5 weeks time, we should have Morgan, Evans, Fofana, Praet, Perez & Maddison back fit with Barnes only a couple of weeks away and all of a sudden things look different again, these next 3 are season defining for me! 

[UpTheLeagueFox 10,889]

Brendan Rodgers on Harvey Barnes: "We’re hopeful he’ll go in for surgery tomorrow. Hopefully he can be back in six weeks." 

[WigstonWanderer 2,429]

1 minute ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Brendan Rodgers on Harvey Barnes: "We’re hopeful he’ll go in for surgery tomorrow. Hopefully he can be back in six weeks." 

Am I right in thinking that Brendans past estimates for player recovery have been overly optimistic?

[brucey 5,249]

Just now, WigstonWanderer said:

Am I right in thinking that Brendans past estimates for player recovery have been overly optimistic?

Yeah, I think it's a running joke on here now. 

Like 6 weeks = 6 months etc

[WigstonWanderer 2,429]

21 minutes ago, brucey said:

Yeah, I think it's a running joke on here now. 

Like 6 weeks = 6 months etc

Yes, my remark was somewhat tongue in cheek. I’m not really expecting him back in 6 weeks unfortunately.

[Ric Flair 22,750]

To be fair players tend to come back quicker than Rodgers timelines (Fofana and Praet both appear close to returning a few weeks head of schedules). What he's bad for is straight after the injury saying its hopefully not too bad when the players innthe changing room with their leg hanging off.

[majaco 1,216]

Barnes got a yellow card on Thursday.  He seemed to target his man.  Does anyone know if this is connected to his original knock?

[sacreblueits442 1,275]

1 hour ago, dannythefox said:

Dave was offered the doctors job full time and he didn’t want it as he works for a practice in his spare time. Leicester wanted a full time club doctor so they went there separate ways, he was great at his job but most top clubs have a full time club doctor and I guess that’s where we want to be. Don’t see the issue with it really 🤷🏻‍♂️

...surely a doctor and a physiotherapist are different roles!!!

One role is a specialist role and the other is what I assume is a general practitioner. Rennie may have been able to cover both roles but if he was tied to another Practice then you can understand the situation.

  Having a specialist within the club as with a psychiatrist would be a good platform, in relation to players mental health and its effect in their environment. 

[eblair 418]

2 hours ago, dannythefox said:

Dave was offered the doctors job full time and he didn’t want it as he works for a practice in his spare time. Leicester wanted a full time club doctor so they went there separate ways, he was great at his job but most top clubs have a full time club doctor and I guess that’s where we want to be. Don’t see the issue with it really 🤷🏻‍♂️

hmm way i read in the media,, sounded like the club wanted a doctor as opposed to dave who they saw as a physio (i know dave has a PhD but he is not actually a Doctor of Medicine)

 

i may have read it wrong but have linked article below, which is where i got my inference from

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-backroom-revamp-explained-4526442

 

(you may know more than me, but was always the way i understood it before you said the above)

 

 

[dannythefox 442]

52 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...surely a doctor and a physiotherapist are different roles!!!

One role is a specialist role and the other is what I assume is a general practitioner. Rennie may have been able to cover both roles but if he was tied to another Practice then you can understand the situation.

  Having a specialist within the club as with a psychiatrist would be a good platform, in relation to players mental health and its effect in their environment. 

Personally I don’t see why Dave couldn’t work along side a full time doctor, maybe the position wasn’t available it’s a shame because he was a big part of the team. 

[The Guvnor 1,155]

Nice to hear the problems been identified and doesn't sound too serious.

 

[StanSP 30,015]

1 hour ago, majaco said:

Barnes got a yellow card on Thursday.  He seemed to target his man.  Does anyone know if this is connected to his original knock?

Nope, because Rodgers said it was an injury that was being managed hence him not starting on Thursday.

[sacreblueits442 1,275]

5 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

Personally I don’t see why Dave couldn’t work along side a full time doctor, maybe the position wasn’t available it’s a shame because he was a big part of the team. 

...you would have thought so!!!

I suspect the club (via Rodgers) stating that we were one of a very few clubs who did not have a full time doctor, and we had a need to correct that, covered any issues there might have been in respect of Rennie leaving.

[majaco 1,216]

12 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Nope, because Rodgers said it was an injury that was being managed hence him not starting on Thursday.

I am wondering if it had been managed since the first leg.

[cruzFOX 334]

Also looking on the bright side and if last season is any kind of barometer it will be good to have all our best players back and fit for one last charge towards the end of the season.

last season we fizzled out but maybe other teams will now fizzle out like manu or west ham. Same token we are seeing teams like the spuds, Liverpool and Chelski start to get some traction. As long as our foxes fight hard till the end that’s all we can ask for. For the sake of next season we must finish 4th or the disappointment could be soul crushing and problems spill over into other areas.

on the FA cup although it’s a nuisance with the predicament we are in we can use it build confidence. COYF we don’t quit! 

[Charl91 2,627]

4 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yeah I am sure people will be very reasonable when we do not field a strong team in the FA cup...

At this point I'd play the weakest squad I possibly could, just to give what few players we have left a bit of a rest.

[KrefelderFox666 1,309]

1 hour ago, Charl91 said:

At this point I'd play the weakest squad I possibly could, just to give what few players we have left a bit of a rest.

3 games from winning a trophy with a real chance? Followed by 2 weeks off for most players? Play full strength. We can't keep throwing the chance to win a trophy away when so close. The FA Cup is the missing piece in our trophy cabinet.

[ajthefox 2,592]

6 hours ago, Ross 'LCFC' Turner said:

To try and stay positive I'm pinning all my hopes on us being able to accumulate enough points in the next 3 to stumble across the line to the International Break.

 

After the International Break in 5 weeks time, we should have Morgan, Evans, Fofana, Praet, Perez & Maddison back fit with Barnes only a couple of weeks away and all of a sudden things look different again, these next 3 are season defining for me! 

I agree with what you've said, but also after the last couple of games it's important to bounce back and prove that this year is different, as much in terms of mentality as anything.

[Dahnsouff 5,938]

15 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

3 games from winning a trophy with a real chance? Followed by 2 weeks off for most players? Play full strength. We can't keep throwing the chance to win a trophy away when so close. The FA Cup is the missing piece in our trophy cabinet.

Short sighted in my opinion, we need to continue to build more than we need the FA cup, give us a chance of more trophies in the longer term. Not great for the moment, but this is the sensible approach, not exciting, I would agree, but pragmatically boring and prudent 

 

2 weeks off after breaking, Youri, Wilf, Soyuncu, etc,  would be scant consolation.

[Sampson 3,182]

7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Short sighted in my opinion, we need to continue to build more than we need the FA cup, give us a chance of more trophies in the longer term. 

We've been saying that for 137 years.

[Dahnsouff 5,938]

4 minutes ago, Sampson said:

We've been saying that for 137 years.

Well, one more will hardly hurt then will it?

[Charl91 2,627]

36 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

3 games from winning a trophy with a real chance? Followed by 2 weeks off for most players? Play full strength. We can't keep throwing the chance to win a trophy away when so close. The FA Cup is the missing piece in our trophy cabinet.

With the state our squad is in, and the way we've performed in recent games, I have seen nothing to suggest we have a realistic chance of winning it. The chance of our youngsters winning it probably isn't much slimmer than our main squad, at is currently stands.

 

Call me a boring old pessimist (I like to think pragmatist) but I think we're far more likely to injure players and ruin our already slim top 4 chance than we are to win the FA cup. And not many great players are going to join you just 'cus you won the FA cup.

[Dahnsouff 5,938]

5 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

With the state our squad is in, and the way we've performed in recent games, I have seen nothing to suggest we have a realistic chance of winning it. The chance of our youngsters winning it probably isn't much slimmer than our main squad, at is currently stands.

 

Call me a boring old pessimist (I like to think pragmatist) but I think we're far more likely to injure players and ruin our already slim top 4 chance than we are to win the FA cup. And not many great players are going to join you just 'cus you won the FA cup.

Glad I am not only boring pragmatic fart on here. 

[KrefelderFox666 1,309]

58 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

With the state our squad is in, and the way we've performed in recent games, I have seen nothing to suggest we have a realistic chance of winning it. The chance of our youngsters winning it probably isn't much slimmer than our main squad, at is currently stands.

 

Call me a boring old pessimist (I like to think pragmatist) but I think we're far more likely to injure players and ruin our already slim top 4 chance than we are to win the FA cup. And not many great players are going to join you just 'cus you won the FA cup.

On that basis we are not good enough to hold onto Top 4 either because we are 2 losses away from dropping to 7th if results go against us.

 

We may as well just quit the season now and get ready for 2021/22. Better preparation. Maybe we can win something then?