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15 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

He’s trying too hard. But look at it another way, he keeps getting into the right positions and we are still cleaning up without his goals. Iheanacho looked poor for two years but now looks electric. For me if he keeps getting into the right positions those goals will come. 

Exactly, if he was not giving the team anything else he wouldn't be playing. Finishing aside, he has been superb, always a threat and still has a lot to learn. He is developing.

 

Maybe he will start scoring goals when the likes of Vardy etc. have a dry spell and thus continuing to gather points for the team. I have faith in him as I am seeing good things from him. It's OK if like yesterday he is dropped to the bench for a couple of games, rotation is key especially during this period.

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8 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

It all started when Barnes ate Demarai's last rolo, which he was saving for Chilwell.

 

Ben flew into a rage and called Barnes a "Throstles reject", upsetting Barnes to the effect that when Chilwell's pet hamster, Nigel, was found choked by a mini MK Dons scarf, suspicion was immediately cast on young Harvey.

 

So you can see why things have grown frosty, particularly as recently, and no doubt in yet another act of revenge, Chilwell was seen taking a dump in a kit bag with the number 15 on it, though he swears blind it said 3.

 

Things are a mess frankly, and we're doomed.

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9 hours ago, knitro said:

This is very soap opera-y and purely speculative but I've always read the Barnes/Chilwell lack of chemistry stemming from some off the pitch drama (maybe related to a girl?). Gotta remember these guys grew up together and have played with one another for near a decade - that's plenty of time for history. 

Pearson’s daughter.

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16 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

He’s trying too hard. But look at it another way, he keeps getting into the right positions and we are still cleaning up without his goals. Iheanacho looked poor for two years but now looks electric. For me if he keeps getting into the right positions those goals will come. 

Completely agree. The only thing letting him down is his finishing and we know he can do it as he demonstrated it in the Championship. Its a different level for sure, but right now he's snatching at chances and tying to smash it. I'll bet my last pound that he's working incredibly hard in trying to find that calmness and finesse and when he does he's going to get a hatfull

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14 hours ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

Exactly, if he was not giving the team anything else he wouldn't be playing. Finishing aside, he has been superb, always a threat and still has a lot to learn. He is developing.

 

Maybe he will start scoring goals when the likes of Vardy etc. have a dry spell and thus continuing to gather points for the team. I have faith in him as I am seeing good things from him. It's OK if like yesterday he is dropped to the bench for a couple of games, rotation is key especially during this period.

Yeah, has been good and still has a lot of room to develop. He has shown that he has a good football brain not just pure technical abilities (like Gray - and even then Gray has improved under Rodgers). And he is an integral part of the team that has won 8 in a row. He is part of the reason for that!

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14 hours ago, Sammy said:

The negativity towards Barnes is so so so bizarre, back him like we have with Soyuncu. Barnes will tear you apart again

Its not bizarre, the team "always" comes ahead of any player.

 

Also I have not seen anyone here been particularly negative, most are supportive of him, and those like myself have only said it was good he wasnt brought on until we were already comfortably leading, and I think i also suggested he should pass more to players with better shooting boots, if the option is there.

 

Rodgers wants the goals spread throughout the team which is why he has been told to score more, but I fear Barnes may have misinterpreted that to shoot whenever he is in range disregarding those around him.

 

I don't mind him been selfish when we have a 3 goal cushion, but the Everton and Brighton games were concerning.

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His link up play is fantastic and the way he carries the ball is brilliant. His finishing though, Christ almighty! I'm backing him 100% and I believe he will get better but 1 PL goal this season in a team that creates shed load of chances is very poor.

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4 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Its not bizarre, the team "always" comes ahead of any player.

 

Also I have not seen anyone here been particularly negative, most are supportive of him, and those like myself have only said it was good he wasnt brought on until we were already comfortably leading, and I think i also suggested he should pass more to players with better shooting boots, if the option is there.

 

Rodgers wants the goals spread throughout the team which is why he has been told to score more, but I fear Barnes may have misinterpreted that to shoot whenever he is in range disregarding those around him.

 

I don't mind him been selfish when we have a 3 goal cushion, but the Everton and Brighton games were concerning.

Don't disagree with anything you've said, and this thread may on the whole be more supportive but I've seen comments on twitter/match threads wanting him shipped out on loan and just generally moaning. I find that weird.

 

Obviously no player is beyond criticism but for a player with 4 assists and a consistent starter in 8 pl wins in a row I feel it should be easy to back him rather than get frustrated

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OK so he has missed/wasted a few chances but we are hardly struggling for goals at the minute. there seems to be some fixation with our wingers scoring goals. Their main role is to take on defenders, get crosses in and set up opportunities for the main strikers/oncoming midfielders. In this respect I think he is doing more than OK with his four assists to date. Scoring goals is not everything.  as long as he is contributing in a positive way to the overall shape and attacking thrust of the team then he is doing what is asked of him. Not adverse to shaking things up occasionally, as we did at Villa, and nobody's starting place is a given but for me he is doing well and integral part of the squad. judge him on his overall play (as with Perez) not simply on the number of goals.

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People have to remember all the quality goals he scored at West Brom.

 

 

Hes got them in him,  and it’s possibly a confidence thing with regards to his shooting.

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Right now his dribbling and footwork is great but his finishing is woeful. 

 

Maybe best to do what was done with villa last week - bring him off the bench for a few weeks. 

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roof gonna be blown off when barnes scores at home, love him as a player

 

get sense whole crowd is willing him to score almost as much as he wants to score, will be electric

 

we know he can finish, we've seen it in the championship. once it comes the gates will open

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36 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

Tentative question....

 

Is Barnes’ best position a left sided attacking forward / winger?

 

 

I'd like to see him play off the right, but at West Brom he had similar success either centrally or out on the left.

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3 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

Tentative question....

 

Is Barnes’ best position a left sided attacking forward / winger?

 

 

I would say left-sided winger with the ability to cut inside and shoot if the opportunity arises.

He excelled centrally at West Brom but it appears to be he's what Rodgers wanted when he said he needed an inside-left forward to fit in with the formation. More to the point it stopped Maddison being played out wide!

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On 09/12/2019 at 09:14, Koke said:

 

No secret amongst whom? Never heard anything about that.

I’ve heard similar from people who would know people who know.

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“Harv, just relax when you’re in the penalty area and do whatever. Vards and Ian will sort out the goals” and he’ll be on a double hatrick by the time we sub him off in the 85th at Norwich. Sorted.

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He was utterly dreadful today again. Constantly broke up and squandered promising counter-attack after counter-attack with his dreadful passing and finishing.

 

Don't doubt the kid has potential to be a good player in 2 years time, but he's simply not good enough to be in our side on current ability.

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Just now, Sampson said:

He was utterly dreadful today again. Constantly broke up and squandered promising counter-attack after counter-attack with his dreadful passing and finishing.

 

Don't doubt the kid has potential to be a good player in 2 years time, but he's simply not good enough to be in our side on current ability.

How else do you expect young players to develop? 

Not great today, but was anyone?

Lads Gita huge future ahead of him, just needs a bit of confidence and more games.

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Should have been hooked after 20 minutes being on the pitch, ended up being a massive burden because you knew as soon as the ball went near him he'd **** it up.

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looked scared today.

 

not sure how to give him the confidence he clearly needs when every time he’s played in the last month or so he looks so sad and nervous about doing anything. 

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2 minutes ago, Sampson said:

He was utterly dreadful today again. Constantly broke up and squandered promising counter-attack after counter-attack with his dreadful passing and finishing.

 

Don't doubt the kid has potential to be a good player in 2 years time, but he's simply not good enough to be in our side on current ability.


What a ridiculous overreaction! Is it Harvey’s turn to be scapegoat now Nacho, Demarai, Chilwell etc have had their turn...

 

He’s a young lad with bags and bags of potential and has played a massive part in a team that has won 8 and drew 1 in the last 9 games. 
 

Get behind the players rather than slagging them off. 

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