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3 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

Wadya mean, if Greenwood can play for Utd. at 18 he should be ready now.

Not always, Choudhury didn’t break through till what 20? Chilwell at a similar age 

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1 minute ago, OadbyBlue said:

Not always, Choudhury didn’t break through till what 20? Chilwell at a similar age 

Thing is these young players will run their contracts down and leave for nowt if they are not offered any chance of progress. Not putting Hamza on the bench for every match is dangerous , he will go straight into the match team for a lot of premiership clubs..

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Eppiah simply needs to stay fit and he will work his way in to the reckoning, he is very capable. I'd get him out on loan in January, his ability with both feet means he can play either side of Vardy too which would be a huge asset in the next year or so.

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Just now, Ric Flair said:

Eppiah simply needs to stay fit and he will work his way in to the reckoning, he is very capable. I'd get him out on loan in January, his ability with both feet means he can play either side of Vardy too which would be a huge asset in the next year or so.

Eppiah, Hirst, G. Thomas, Dewsbury-Hall, Ughelumba, Leshabela all looked very good, and some of them hopefully will get loans this January. Muskwe looked better than usual. I have no idea what has happened to Johnson -- he was pure bomb scare, and was lucky not have picked up a yellow on several occasions. Reghba seemed raw; I know he is coming off a knock, but I am still unsure of him.

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23 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Eppiah, Hirst, G. Thomas, Dewsbury-Hall, Ughelumba, Leshabela all looked very good, and some of them hopefully will get loans this January. Muskwe looked better than usual. I have no idea what has happened to Johnson -- he was pure bomb scare, and was lucky not have picked up a yellow on several occasions. Reghba seemed raw; I know he is coming off a knock, but I am still unsure of him.

I think Hirst and Eppiah need loan moves. Muskwe I'm not sure will ever be good enough for our level but definitely has a future in professional football. You could make a case for 6 or 7 of these to get loan moves and then promote a few from the U18's but the club never seem to serious about doing that. 

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27 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I think Hirst and Eppiah need loan moves. Muskwe I'm not sure will ever be good enough for our level but definitely has a future in professional football. You could make a case for 6 or 7 of these to get loan moves and then promote a few from the U18's but the club never seem to serious about doing that. 

Well, it can be hit and miss -- Ndukwu is floundering, and even Hamza didn't really make an impact at Burton. But looking at the first team players not even making the bench for cup games, I just don't think there is currently an "in club" route to the first team. Although if some of those not ever making the 18 (eg. Mendy, Armartey) move on in January, and we make an FA Cup run, that might change.

 

However, some of the development squad are training with the first team each week, so I guess they are in a position to impress.

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Most of the time we have too many players and this loan system is getting out of hand , you have to throw young players in at the deep end. If players like Eppiah and Hirst have not made it here by the age of 21 then its time for them to move down a couple of levels and make their careers there. Of course if Evans and Vardy get long term injuries at the same time everybody on here will panic and say we haven't got a big enough squad.

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I'm keen for Dewsbury-Hall and Eppiah to go out on loan. We are 3 points from the top in the PL2 league, so imagine nobody will be going out on loan.

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I wouldn’t push players on loan before they’re ready and before we’ve found a good club for them. But a few look decent enough. Eppiah, Hirst, Luke Thomas. The point about Eppiah’s return from injury is a good one: we may want to monitor him for a while.

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1 hour ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Well, it can be hit and miss -- Ndukwu is floundering, and even Hamza didn't really make an impact at Burton. But looking at the first team players not even making the bench for cup games, I just don't think there is currently an "in club" route to the first team. Although if some of those not ever making the 18 (eg. Mendy, Armartey) move on in January, and we make an FA Cup run, that might change.

 

However, some of the development squad are training with the first team each week, so I guess they are in a position to impress.

Hamza was great at Burton the first year!

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2 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Well, it can be hit and miss -- Ndukwu is floundering, and even Hamza didn't really make an impact at Burton. But looking at the first team players not even making the bench for cup games, I just don't think there is currently an "in club" route to the first team. Although if some of those not ever making the 18 (eg. Mendy, Armartey) move on in January, and we make an FA Cup run, that might change.

 

However, some of the development squad are training with the first team each week, so I guess they are in a position to impress.

Agreed, the problem is we haven't had a player go straight from academy to first team since Andy King.

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3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Agreed, the problem is we haven't had a player go straight from academy to first team since Andy King.

I’m being pedantic but Joe Dodo’s league cup exploits?

 

I’m not sure Bren will be willing to be an academy graduate straight in the first team tbh - has he done that elsewhere?

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