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14 minutes ago, UHDrive said:

Any chance he can go full stop.

Alright, calm down! I’d just like to see the lad get a chance to play football for someone and have a chance of enjoying some sort of football career again.

Just wondering if anyone knows how he is getting on.

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4 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Alright, calm down! I’d just like to see the lad get a chance to play football for someone and have a chance of enjoying some sort of football career again.

Just wondering if anyone knows how he is getting on.

I agree don't worry... He needs to leave this summer though. Given his age and longevity and to make as much money he can from the rest of his career then it would be best to leave now for a 2/3 year contract at a Championship club level like Kingy and Simpson did albeit kingy was loaned out to Huddersfield.

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I’ve always said that the perception of a player always rises when that player is absent from the team. Especially in a period when the team is not winning games.

 

People often point to James being first pick in midfield when we first entered the Premier League. That coincided with a time when we were the worst team in the league for 28 games. In the 10 game run at the end: James started four of them and we won three. I won’t make comparisons with other midfielders who might have played when we won the league, or qualified for Europe, as others have already done so. 

 

James has always been an average midfielder of limited potential. Top end Championship to mid table Premier League at best. 

 

It’s really devastating for the player to have to overcome so many injuries, but the revisionism around his ability always makes me raise an eyebrow or two.  

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2 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Any updates? How’s his fitness looking? Can’t recall seeing him in any preseason games?

Any chance he may go out on loan this season and play some football somewhere?

Coming a long nicely, ready to make his first appearance in 12 years in 2031

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His contract runs out in 2021. He will be let go next summer. I dont dislike the guy and I wish him well but his last 3 years here have been a waste of money.

 

He will be 30 when he leaves us so I'm interested to see what level he will play at.

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4 minutes ago, Koke said:

His contract runs out in 2021. He will be let go next summer. I dont dislike the guy and I wish him well but his last 3 years here have been a waste of money.

 

He will be 30 when he leaves us so I'm interested to see what level he will play at.

Didn't I read somewhere he is working on his coaching badges?

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I wonder if the club use his injury as an example to new possible signings as some sort of sales pitch. Some kind of 'we look after our own', 'we even extended the contract of a player who was out with a long term injury'. 

 

I know it would influence part of my decision if I was choosing a new club with very little between my options. 

 

This whole 'LCFC family' image. Just a thought. 

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On 12/07/2020 at 14:56, Angus Scott said:

Spot on. How anybody can say he was better than Drinky is beyond me. Drinky was the best midfield player in the Championship & one of the best in the year we won the Prem.

The only reason he had a poor year in 14/15 was because pig-headed Pearson wouldn't pick him for some reason, despite the pathetic performances we were turning out throughout that winter.

Drinkwater started 16 games, only 4 less than James and the same number as King. He had more than enough chances to show he was a better option and didn't. 

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1 hour ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I wonder if the club use his injury as an example to new possible signings as some sort of sales pitch. Some kind of 'we look after our own', 'we even extended the contract of a player who was out with a long term injury'. 

 

I know it would influence part of my decision if I was choosing a new club with very little between my options. 

 

This whole 'LCFC family' image. Just a thought. 

Shakey wanted it as he was following the Pearson way of looking after players, he wanted to show everyone that he had their back. Pearson allowed players to kick about longer than they really needed to. There was nothing wrong in doing what we did, especially when you hear about how brilliant he is with other players behind the scenes. The only question mark is the length of the deal, but then again we don't know the details of his contract. For all we know it could be heavily based around appearances and being fit. 

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I can see him packing it in when his contract is up. Not sure whether teams would be willing to take a gamble on him post covid with his fitness record or pay him the money he'd expect.

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1 minute ago, Tuna said:

I can see him packing it in when his contract is up. Not sure whether teams would be willing to take a gamble on him post covid with his fitness record or pay him the money he'd expect.

Pay as you play. Barnsley for one would probably jump at the chance, he was absolutely brilliant for them on loan prior to that new contract. 

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1 hour ago, Babylon said:

God I wish Squawka still had the stats from the championship, he dominated Drinkwater in almost every aspect. From Tackles to chances created, etc. When James wasn't in the team, we missed him more than any other midfielder and the results matched that.

 

He suffers from the same shite players like Mendy and often Praet gets. They don't do the Hollywood stuff so they don't get the glory. 

 

King better... FML. 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

Drinkwater was voted in the top 3 players in the entire league that season. 

 

King contributed much more to this club than James especially in the Premier League, I stand by that. 

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25 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

Drinkwater was voted in the top 3 players in the entire league that season. 

 

King contributed much more to this club than James especially in the Premier League, I stand by that. 

You said he was a better player, not even our manager thought that.

 

Good on them voting for him, as I said Hollywood passes get you noticed. Ryan Giggs got player of the season for being old once.
 

The stats speak for themselves when people say he didn’t tackle or create. 

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3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

You said he was a better player, not even our manager thought that.

 

Good on them voting for him, as I said Hollywood passes get you noticed. Ryan Giggs got player of the season for being old once.
 

The stats speak for themselves when people say he didn’t tackle or create. 

I said I was likely in the minority but I do believe King was a better player than Matty James. I have never rated him, my admiration if Andy King was probably more as a goalscoring midfielder in the early part of his career rather than when that dried up but the reasons I never rated James was he was the sort of midfielder who bores me. Not a defensive midfielder, nor a creative attacking midfielder. I probably under appreciate such players but not a player I'd have in my team at all. (I'd have 11 wingers personally)

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2 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I wonder if the club use his injury as an example to new possible signings as some sort of sales pitch. Some kind of 'we look after our own', 'we even extended the contract of a player who was out with a long term injury'. 

 

I know it would influence part of my decision if I was choosing a new club with very little between my options. 

 

This whole 'LCFC family' image. Just a thought. 

I hope not.

 

Getting the club to have an open arms feel is all well and good but the club must always come first. 

 

Classic example in these times is that the £££ that the club have uselessy spent on James could and should have been spent elsewhere. 

 

Fine lines and we don't know what his contract is made up of, but I hope to god it includes appearance bonuses etc.

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9 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I wonder if the club use his injury as an example to new possible signings as some sort of sales pitch. Some kind of 'we look after our own', 'we even extended the contract of a player who was out with a long term injury'. 

 

I know it would influence part of my decision if I was choosing a new club with very little between my options. 

 

This whole 'LCFC family' image. Just a thought. 

lol I think the situation with James appears to be by default rather than design. I'm sure had the club known he was going to be out injured for 3-4 years they wouldn't have offrered him said extension and there'd be nothing wrong with that.

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34 minutes ago, Muzzy_Larsson said:

lol I think the situation with James appears to be by default rather than design. I'm sure had the club known he was going to be out injured for 3-4 years they wouldn't have offrered him said extension and there'd be nothing wrong with that.

They offered him the extension when he was two years or more into his injury. He was way off playing at that point I believe and many on here thought it odd. I assumed it was the club doing the family thing.

Been a couple of comments on here that different managers have thought he’s the most gifted midfielder we have.

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Think the wage stealer jibes are harsh. We decided to offer him a contract, he took it and then for whatever reason isn't selected. It's the club's responsibility, not the player's. He went on loan, came back and started playing for us again, Rodgers has included him as well when available.

 

Club needs to review it's policy.

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