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42 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Does it really need explaining ffs. Giving MJ the 4 yr contract when we didn't ultimately need to was a compensation for bad luck ruling him out of an incredible achievement and a reward for staying positive and helping the team in training when he must have felt absolutely low and gutted and would have been easy to spread bile.

 

You can bitch and moan about it being a waste of money but we had money to burn after the title win and wanted to look after one of our own who'd been here a few years and did very well in getting us to the PL and keeping us there in the first year.

 

That treatment of MJ sent a good message out to the rest of the squad ie players like Vardy who were considering leaving, as well as presumably those looking to join, how our owners look out for the players and becomes another selling point for LCFC.

 

There you go but you knew that already.

Then we all love a moan about a bloated squad and a wage bill that prevents us from getting the players we need in. Can't have it both ways ffs.

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Maybe I've misunderstood how it works, but given he's out on loan much of the time, Leicester are not actually paying his wages - the loan club is?  (I realise the two clubs may negotiate this so Leicester do pay a percentage)

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7 minutes ago, AjcW said:

 

If you're signing for a club, do you choose one that released someone on a free when they did their cruciate, or do you sign for the one that have done everything possible to rehabilitate a play and find him loans to try and kickstart his career afterwards.

I think any footballer worth having will be more interested in the wage and club prospects when signing. 

'You're offering me 40k a week? Everton are offering me 60!'

'Yeah but look how weve looked after Matt James!'

'Who? See ya later'

35 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

Gray stinking up the place with his 'potential' is a lot worse than us risking giving James another contract after some good performances for us a few years back.

The difference is though that regardless of how mediocre hes been, Gray has actually been available and contributed something to the team in the last 5/6 years. Matt James has been paid around 7m pounds to play a dozen games, go on loan, be 'a good influence on the dressing room' or whatever and recover from many, many, injuries. 

That's what annoys people. Hes been paid a fortune to do next to nothing for LCFC. If a guy worked with you and earnt millions for seemingly nothing itd get your back up something awful. It's similar to people slagging off the woman in charge of track and trace getting paid millions for being useless. You need to be seen earning your large wage packet.

 

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26 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

I think any footballer worth having will be more interested in the wage and club prospects when signing. 

'You're offering me 40k a week? Everton are offering me 60!'

'Yeah but look how weve looked after Matt James!'

'Who? See ya later'

There is a bit of truth to this.  I was about to comment that the suggestions Matty's contract doubles as good marketing is probably a little wide of the mark because like you say I can't imagine prospective players/their agents looking into the history of obscure players at the club and their contract status.  More importantly though it will be something picked up on by the guys already here.  It's one of many little things that the club and owners do well to reinforce the general culture and sense of community at the club and that's something you can't really put a price tag on, and that's also how it might affect future transfers because those will be things you can genuinely expect potential players to be looking at.

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21 hours ago, mozartfox said:

Watch a re-run of the Newport Cup defeat and this may get you to delete this post.  Unfortunately, he is no longer up to playing for LCFC.  Great shame, but financially secure no doubt which is good for him.

 His performance against Newport was poor I agree with that but writing him off for that is a bit unfair.

 

He more than proved his pedigree in 2014 2015 and the guy surely deserves one more crack at it. However that looks like it isnt going happen due to the Cov situation. Shame.

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10 minutes ago, wokinghamfox said:

 His performance against Newport was poor I agree with that but writing him off for that is a bit unfair.

 

He more than proved his pedigree in 2014 2015 and the guy surely deserves one more crack at it. However that looks like it isnt going happen due to the Cov situation. Shame.

Really?

 

In 2014/15 he was generally first choice in a team that spent most of the season rock bottom of the league. He then started 5 or 6 games in the 10 match ‘great escape’ at the end of the season. 

 

His replacement the following season helped us win the Premier League.

 

Is he really going to get in the side ahead of Tielemans, N’didi, Maddison, Praet or Mendy? I’d even have Hamza in before him. 

 

I think people get blinded by sentiment with Matty James because of his dreadful misfortune with injuries. He just isn’t a top six PL midfielder and that is where we currently sit. He may not even be a top half PL midfielder.

 

As soon as possible he should go with our thanks and best wishes with good memories for his contributions for getting us to the PL and helping us to stay there. 

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1 hour ago, Gubbins said:

I think any footballer worth having will be more interested in the wage and club prospects when signing. 

'You're offering me 40k a week? Everton are offering me 60!'

'Yeah but look how weve looked after Matt James!'

'Who? See ya later'

The difference is though that regardless of how mediocre hes been, Gray has actually been available and contributed something to the team in the last 5/6 years. Matt James has been paid around 7m pounds to play a dozen games, go on loan, be 'a good influence on the dressing room' or whatever and recover from many, many, injuries. 

That's what annoys people. Hes been paid a fortune to do next to nothing for LCFC. If a guy worked with you and earnt millions for seemingly nothing itd get your back up something awful. It's similar to people slagging off the woman in charge of track and trace getting paid millions for being useless. You need to be seen earning your large wage packet.

 

You don't work for him, you don't pay him and you have no idea what he's been paid. 

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3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

If we're "eventually" getting him off the payroll and freeing up space in the squad, why does that show how good the owners are?

...that is not what he is saying!!!

He has acknowledged the altruism of the club but, he personally, is relieved that Matty James's contract is coming to an end, to allow the club more funds to recruit players.

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3 hours ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Does it really need explaining ffs. Giving MJ the 4 yr contract when we didn't ultimately need to was a compensation for bad luck ruling him out of an incredible achievement and a reward for staying positive and helping the team in training when he must have felt absolutely low and gutted and would have been easy to spread bile.

 

You can bitch and moan about it being a waste of money but we had money to burn after the title win and wanted to look after one of our own who'd been here a few years and did very well in getting us to the PL and keeping us there in the first year.

 

That treatment of MJ sent a good message out to the rest of the squad ie players like Vardy who were considering leaving, as well as presumably those looking to join, how our owners look out for the players and becomes another selling point for LCFC.

 

There you go but you knew that already.

Well said.

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2 hours ago, SkidsFox said:

Maybe I've misunderstood how it works, but given he's out on loan much of the time, Leicester are not actually paying his wages - the loan club is?  (I realise the two clubs may negotiate this so Leicester do pay a percentage)

Depends what's been agreed. We might still pay full wages despite him being on loan elsewhere.

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48 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...that is not what he is saying!!!

He has acknowledged the altruism of the club but, he personally, is relieved that Matty James's contract is coming to an end, to allow the club more funds to recruit players.

That's not the point I challenged but ok. 

 

A 4 year contract at the time was pretty crazy, a lot of people said it at the time. If we weren't doing so well on the pitch currently I have a feeling a lot of people wouldn't be so accommodating.

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Having considered all of the above regarding good feeling for the club for treating someone right, and the associated risk of over-paying through loyalty. We could have probably achieved the same level of "They're a great club and treat people right" with a two year contract given his injury record!

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Can anyone explain why he's swapped one Championship team close to the play-offs for one with only one win in five? 

Not worried, I'm pleased for him, but given he was playing often and apparently happy at Barnsley - and they with him - it just seems odd.

I'm probably missing something blindingly obvious........................

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3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...that is not what he is saying!!!

He has acknowledged the altruism of the club but, he personally, is relieved that Matty James's contract is coming to an end, to allow the club more funds to recruit players.

In a nutshell 

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6 minutes ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Can anyone explain why he's swapped one Championship team close to the play-offs for one with only one win in five? 

Not worried, I'm pleased for him, but given he was playing often and apparently happy at Barnsley - and they with him - it just seems odd.

I'm probably missing something blindingly obvious........................

His loan finished this month, Barnsley weren't willing to pay the increased % of his wages to extend his loan, looks like Cov probably were

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4 hours ago, Jobyfox said:

Really?

 

In 2014/15 he was generally first choice in a team that spent most of the season rock bottom of the league. He then started 5 or 6 games in the 10 match ‘great escape’ at the end of the season. 

 

His replacement the following season helped us win the Premier League.

 

Is he really going to get in the side ahead of Tielemans, N’didi, Maddison, Praet or Mendy? I’d even have Hamza in before him. 

 

I think people get blinded by sentiment with Matty James because of his dreadful misfortune with injuries. He just isn’t a top six PL midfielder and that is where we currently sit. He may not even be a top half PL midfielder.

 

As soon as possible he should go with our thanks and best wishes with good memories for his contributions for getting us to the PL and helping us to stay there. 

Think you made a typo 🤔

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