Stadium Expansion...?

[UHDrive]

1 hour ago, Billynomates said:

The original stadium build had ‘future expansion allowance’ removed from the foundations so they’re not big enough for additional load.

 

hence the knock it down and build again approach.

What happened to the 16k extra seats you said? I was ecstatic with that! And £200 mil seems steep for the extra 10k, a lot of money unless its for the whole land parcel.

[UHDrive]

5 hours ago, Ashley said:

We can't build on the main stand. Too much glass on there for one. 

Theres nothing a structural engineer cant do 😉

[Raw Dykes]

35 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Looks to me like there’s a bit of expansion on the north stand there with an overhang out the back out it. Looks like that could potentially be where some extra seats come from? (A small upper tier on the Family Stand)

I see what you mean, but I think that's just to tidy up the appearance from the outside. You can see from the straight-on view of the East stand from inside that the north and south stands are the same as they are now.

 

A couple of people have mentioned a plan for 48k seats. These pictures clearly aren't from that plan, but we don't know the plan these pictures show are what they are going with.

[Philkeavo]

54 minutes ago, UHDrive said:

What happened to the 16k extra seats you said? I was ecstatic with that! And £200 mil seems steep for the extra 10k, a lot of money unless its for the whole land parcel.

I think the £200m is all the land and associated development around the stadium extension. I think if the images are correct the new East Stand expansion would bring the capacity to 42,000. Top wrote about it in the matchday programme in August this year. 

Leicester’s Thai chairman Aiyawatt ‘Top’ Srivaddhanaprabha - who is also the chief executive of the King Power duty free network - has confirmed that while the club’s plans to develop the 42,000-capacity stadium are now on hold, the construction work will go ahead after a “brief pause”, using a £91mn loan provided by King Power.

“It was always clear that such a situation was likely to affect our plans in terms of our new training ground in Seagrave and the proposed development of the King Power Stadium site, but it represents no more than a brief pause”, Mr Srivaddhanaprabha wrote in Leicester City’s most recent matchday programme.

“Our resolve to deliver on those capital projects remains. The training ground is nearing completion and we intend to resume consultation on stadium expansion by the end of 2020.

“Our ambitions and long-term objectives have not changed. We cannot anticipate the world’s ongoing response to the pandemic or how society will emerge from it, but the club is a reference point for communities at home and abroad so we have to set an example and do what we feel is the right thing.

Edited 23 November 2020 by Philkeavo

[Jimbo]

Someone must have their wires crossed with this whole 16000 seats thing. Just cannot see how we'd fit an extra 16000 seats in developing 1 stand. It has to be more likely that the new stand will hold 16000 seats in total, making our new capacity between 40000-42000. 

 

Assuming the east stand currently holds roughly between 9000-10000  adding another 16000 seats would mean an absolutely gargantuan stand that would completely dwarf the rest of the stadium and would make it one of, if not the, biggest stands in the country.

 

To put that into perspective Tottenhams South stand holds around 17500, which I think is the biggest single tiered stand, and the Alex Fergus stand at Man U holds around 25000. And thats a massive, 3 tiered stand. I remember my 1st trip to Old Trafford, not long after it had been completed and quite clearly remember seeing Muzzy Izzet mouth the words "f**c me!" when he saw it 

[Webbo]

5 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..I am not sure what taking money from the club means!!!

Are you suggesting that the clubs finance is raided in order to meet the cost or we use the revenue from our league  position finish to pay.

  As a model of self sustainability we cannot afford to contribute from our income anything to help with this cost.

 I would  be shocked and incredibly grateful should the owners choose to once again invest in us by putting their hands in their own pockets once again. 

I don't know exactly how it works but as the club doesn't own the ground, King Power do, I assume King Power charge them rent or a percentage of the gate money. If the ground is improved then the tenets will have to pay for that from income. 

[Fox in the North]

I’ve done a very very rough idea of how the ground would look if you copied the stands. I think it would look a lot better.

Then i would have the blue cladding come from the west stand overlapping the exposed north and south stands.

 

[Raw Dykes]

25 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

Someone must have their wires crossed with this whole 16000 seats thing. Just cannot see how we'd fit an extra 16000 seats in developing 1 stand. It has to be more likely that the new stand will hold 16000 seats in total, making our new capacity between 40000-42000. 

 

Assuming the east stand currently holds roughly between 9000-10000  adding another 16000 seats would mean an absolutely gargantuan stand that would completely dwarf the rest of the stadium and would make it one of, if not the, biggest stands in the country.

 

To put that into perspective Tottenhams South stand holds around 17500, which I think is the biggest single tiered stand, and the Alex Fergus stand at Man U holds around 25000. And thats a massive, 3 tiered stand. I remember my 1st trip to Old Trafford, not long after it had been completed and quite clearly remember seeing Muzzy Izzet mouth the words "f**c me!" when he saw it 

@Billynomates has said the plans are for an extra 16k seats, taking the total to 48k, but I don't think he has specified whether that's all on just the east stand. Someone else has since said that possible plans to add 16k seats would also mean the north and south stands were expanded.

 

My guess is that the images posted today are of an old design, or one possible option of several. That expansion of the east stand I think would only add around 8k seats. Perhaps this will be done first, so that we can see how often we can fill a ~40k stadium before expanding another stand.

[Jimbo]

7 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:

I’ve done a very very rough idea of how the ground would look if you copied the stands. I think it would look a lot better.

Then i would have the blue cladding come from the west stand overlapping the exposed north and south stands.

 

 

[sacreblueits442]

10 minutes ago, Webbo said:

I don't know exactly how it works but as the club doesn't own the ground, King Power do, I assume King Power charge them rent or a percentage of the gate money. If the ground is improved then the tenets will have to pay for that from income. 

...I would think that on the Club Balance Sheet, the stadium would be down as an asset and the £100m debt probably down as shares.

  However if the ground is owned by King Power  then I can understand where you are coming from. Conversely, in view of sustainability would King Power wish to burden the club with an increased rental charge.

[Reginaldo]

9 hours ago, Ashley said:

These are doing the rounds. 

The Foxes Glacier Mint?

[Billynomates]

2 hours ago, UHDrive said:

What happened to the 16k extra seats you said? I was ecstatic with that! And £200 mil seems steep for the extra 10k, a lot of money unless its for the whole land parcel.

When I know more. It’s not just seats for that money, it’s the entire development.

[Leicester_Loyal]

'THFC financial results out today for the year ending June 2020. Overall the club is reporting a loss of £63.9m in contrast to last year's profit of £68.6m. The club is predicting a loss of £150m next season if fans are not allowed back. On the up side - match day and catering receipts were £81.9m for the 14 Premier League games before COVID kicked in. That’s £5.85m per game. Astonishing.'

 

Read the above statement if you're still wondering why we need to expand the stadium. We're so far behind the top 6/7 in terms of match day income, expanding will help bridge this gap and provide more stable income in the long term.

 

 

[KFS]

45 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:

I’ve done a very very rough idea of how the ground would look if you copied the stands. I think it would look a lot better.

Then i would have the blue cladding come from the west stand overlapping the exposed north and south stands.

 

Imagine what that looks like top down....

[FOXSE]

25 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

'THFC financial results out today for the year ending June 2020. Overall the club is reporting a loss of £63.9m in contrast to last year's profit of £68.6m. The club is predicting a loss of £150m next season if fans are not allowed back. On the up side - match day and catering receipts were £81.9m for the 14 Premier League games before COVID kicked in. That’s £5.85m per game. Astonishing.'

 

Read the above statement if you're still wondering why we need to expand the stadium. We're so far behind the top 6/7 in terms of match day income, expanding will help bridge this gap and provide more stable income in the long term.

 

 

That is astonishing. 60,000 people spending and average of £97 each per match.....

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

That is astonishing. 60,000 people spending and average of £97 each per match.....

Corporate will be where the money's at, especially in London.

[Stevosevic]

5 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

That is astonishing. 60,000 people spending and average of £97 each per match.....

Corporate could easily be 250-300 a head 

[foxile5]

Love the idea of the blue paneling. Distinctive which is something we're lacking. 

[FOXSE]

3 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Corporate could easily be 250-300 a head 

Still seems a lot.

[FoyleFox]

8 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Corporate will be where the money's at, especially in London.

Corporate and hospitality is an absolute money spinner. I bought hospitality for a Fulham match (it was a present), when they were in the Championship, just in the casual bar -  match ticket, beer, hot buffet lunch, programme and players visit post match - £115. After promotion to PL it increased but without the player visits to £250. The Lounge Hospitality was double that.

I remember comparing our prices for the Fulham match in 2019 and it was lower including a seated meal.

Edited 23 November 2020 by FoyleFox

[jonthefox]

1 hour ago, Fox in the North said:

I’ve done a very very rough idea of how the ground would look if you copied the stands. I think it would look a lot better.

Then i would have the blue cladding come from the west stand overlapping the exposed north and south stands.

 

Nah mate. That’ll look like a fanny  on google earth.

[Guest Markyblue]

16 minutes ago, jonthefox said:

Nah mate. That’ll look like a fanny  on google earth.

A very cold one.

[Fox in the North]

29 minutes ago, jonthefox said:

Nah mate. That’ll look like a fanny  on google earth.

Yeah I get that, just trying to figure a way out to make it look not so lopsided. 

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

1 hour ago, FoyleFox said:

Corporate and hospitality is an absolute money spinner. I bought hospitality for a Fulham match (it was a present), when they were in the Championship, just in the casual bar -  match ticket, beer, hot buffet lunch, programme and players visit post match - £115. After promotion to PL it increased but without the player visits to £250. The Lounge Hospitality was double that.

I remember comparing our prices for the Fulham match in 2019 and it was lower including a seated meal.

Corporate is insane. Usually your club seats and boxes are generating 90 percent of income. But even in general seating, making it easier to buy food and drink and making the food desirable (neat trick, would be great if the King Power would learn it) can really add the £££. Also, being able to buy merchandise once in the ground would also increase revenue. 

[Ginger_Filbert]

3 hours ago, Fox in the North said:

 

Blue waffle. 

Edited 23 November 2020 by Ginger_Filbert