GeorgeTheFox Posted 3 April 2021 Share Posted 3 April 2021 I'm completely biased in favour of Ayoze because I loved him even before he was a Leicester player (absolutely no reason just one of them that you take a shine to) but I do have to say that he is nowhere near good enough to be a starter for where we want to be. However, he is the only player we have that can fulfil maddison's role. Not in terms of playmaking but in terms of receiving the ball on the turn. He is very good at taking the ball in his stride and turning and running at the back four... just his decision making from there is very questionable. He's almost like Knockaert in a lot of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 3 April 2021 Share Posted 3 April 2021 Just now, GeorgeTheFox said: I'm completely biased in favour of Ayoze because I loved him even before he was a Leicester player (absolutely no reason just one of them that you take a shine to) but I do have to say that he is nowhere near good enough to be a starter for where we want to be. However, he is the only player we have that can fulfil maddison's role. Not in terms of playmaking but in terms of receiving the ball on the turn. He is very good at taking the ball in his stride and turning and running at the back four... just his decision making from there is very questionable. He's almost like Knockaert in a lot of ways. Tbh praet was quite effective when playing as a 10 before his injury, maybe not in the same way as maddison but i think he's more effective as his backup than as tieleman's backup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTheFox Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 42 minutes ago, honeybradger said: Tbh praet was quite effective when playing as a 10 before his injury, maybe not in the same way as maddison but i think he's more effective as his backup than as tieleman's backup Oh yeah absolutely. I'd rather have Praet in that position any day of the week. But if you compare Ayo and Maddison they have a very similar technique in trapping the ball and turning. I don't think anyone else we have in the squad really does the same. If I'm not conveying the specific move I have in my head then it doesn't make sense but if you take this system we have been playing in the last few games then Perez and Maddison function in a very similar way. I'm also several vodkas deep so I may make absolutely zero sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 This was an interesting exchange of views to wake up to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 9 hours ago, The whole world smiles said: Ridiculous. Ryan Bennett was far worse and he was playing for City less than a year ago. Ammartey doesn't get stick because most city fans with half a brain understand that he's an OK utility player who can cover cm rb and especially cb. If Amartey is playing it usually means there is an injury (or in this case covid) crisis. So most fans cut him stick accordingly. Perez on the other hand is a 30 million pound marquee signing who at the moment is starting ahead of Praet and maddison. And has regularly kept under, gray and albrighton out of the side so there is a lot more pressure and expectation for him to perform to decent level. Perez is only starting over the Maddison and Praet because they’ve both been injured Perez actually tried to make things happen yesterday, thought he did ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 16 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: This was an interesting exchange of views to wake up to. Indeed. It seems that big Dan has been caught out with a certain posters Mrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bert Posted 4 April 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 4 April 2021 10 hours ago, Col city fan said: What you’ve just explained is true of FT, in a nutshell. It’s full of hypocrisy. The likes of Nacho and Ayoze have received dogs abuse on here. Now that Nacho has had a good run of games, suddenly he’s brilliant. Finally the usual suspects are starting to see Perez importance to the team, but that’s after many months of rabid criticism. And you’re right that other players can’t do any wrong. Amartey is possibly the worst player we’ve had at the club in a long time, but the FT faithful seem to adore him I’ve never gotten it, never will. I just take it for what it is these days. What Drugs you been smoking? Most people don’t “adore” him. They appreciate him for what he is, which is a valuable squad member. One horrific leg break, a bad hamstring injury and Brendan still uses him. Obviously you know much better though. Amartey is never ever gonna set the world alight we all know that. But to say he’s the worst player we’ve had at the club for a long time is absolutely absurd and I’m convinced you’re just saying it for a reaction. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 I'm sick of him and have been for ages. I still don't know what we signed him for. I've never lost faith in Iheanacho, unlike others, because I had appreciation of what he can and can't do. Perez will never convince me because he isn't a player who will ever decide games, just always be on the fringes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 10 hours ago, Col city fan said: Another was Cambiasso. Ever present in a team fixed to the bottom of the division, then had a few good games at the end of the season, became a club legend. A prime example. Amartey also has a little cult status too I reckon. Biazarre stuff Without Cambiasso, none of the good stuff that we’ve had in the last 6 years is likely to have occurred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 2 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Without Cambiasso, none of the good stuff that we’ve had in the last 6 years is likely to have occurred Haha, and there it is! Point made 👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scotch Posted 4 April 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 4 April 2021 44 minutes ago, Bert said: What Drugs you been smoking? Most people don’t “adore” him. They appreciate him for what he is, which is a valuable squad member. One horrific leg break, a bad hamstring injury and Brendan still uses him. Obviously you know much better though. Amartey is never ever gonna set the world alight we all know that. But to say he’s the worst player we’ve had at the club for a long time is absolutely absurd and I’m convinced you’re just saying it for a reaction. It's absolutely pointless talking to Col about Amartey. He has said outright that if you change your mind on a player, you are a hypocrite (using Nacho and Ayo as examples). He has drew his line in the sand with Big Dan so in his own head, he can't change his mind or he is also being hypocritical. It's utterly pathetic. It's one thing not being mature enough to lift your hands up and say "I was wrong" but its something else entirely to openly mock those who actually have the balls to do so. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 1 hour ago, Bert said: Perez is only starting over the Maddison and Praet because they’ve both been injured Perez actually tried to make things happen yesterday, thought he did ok. Maddison fair enough but praet played 79 minutes and scored and assisted a few days ago. I thought Perez was OK yesterday too. Top marks for workrate. I'm not slagging perez just trying to explain why some players tend to get criticism more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Haha, and there it is! Point made 👌 Well I suppose opinion is divided. You think he was crap, and just about everyone else thinks he was instrumental in the Great Escape. Edited 4 April 2021 by WigstonWanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 4 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Well I suppose opinion is divided. You think he was crap, and just about everyone else thinks he was instrumental in the Great Escape. Err, he was instrumental. No thinking required. Totally agree. He was the leader we needed and he stepped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Well I suppose opinion is divided. You think he was crap, and just about everyone else thinks he was instrumental in the Great Escape. Such is the nature of cult worship. What about having your own thoughts rather than following the crowd? Cambiasso was bang average in a team that was rooted to the base of the division for three quarters of a season. His legs had basically gone. We signed Huth, protected Cambiasso more and managed to pull-off the great escape as a team. Cambiasso is a legend to football, but is no legend to Leicester City. Unless you want him to be, because you feel he ‘should have been’. Oh and this is before all the reports on him being a bit of a pain in the arse in the dressing room and before the conspiracies about him basically managing the team for Pearson 👍 Edited 4 April 2021 by Col city fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 29 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said: It's absolutely pointless talking to Col about Amartey. He has said outright that if you change your mind on a player, you are a hypocrite (using Nacho and Ayo as examples). He has drew his line in the sand with Big Dan so in his own head, he can't change his mind or he is also being hypocritical. It's utterly pathetic. It's one thing not being mature enough to lift your hands up and say "I was wrong" but its something else entirely to openly mock those who actually have the balls to do so. Did he actually say that? Surely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 How have we got back to Cambiasso from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 Should make a poll on who hates who more, col and cambiasso or Geoff and puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 2 minutes ago, Corky said: How have we got back to Cambiasso from here? Basically, the hypocrisy of football fans, following the flock and the great escape. In that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Did he actually say that? Surely not. Ok, "outright" is a stretch but he has spoke several times in the last 24 hours about the abuse Kel and Ayo have had and how FT is full of hypocrites because some of those same people praise them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: Should make a poll on who hates who more, col and cambiasso or Geoff and puel. I don’t hate cambiclasso. I couldn’t give a toss to be honest. But to accord him legendary status at the club I DO think is an insult to the genuine legends of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 6 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Basically, the hypocrisy of football fans, following the flock and the great escape. In that order. Is it actually hypocrisy or doing things you don't agree with? As far as I can see, people have praised Perez when he's played well and criticised when he hasn't. Probably suggests the issue with him (inconsistency) and also that fans can alter their views. Do you want people to relentlessly stick to one opinion all the time so he never gets praised when he plays well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 4 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Basically, the hypocrisy of football fans, following the flock and the great escape. In that order. No. Convo got back to Cambiasso because you brought up Cambiasso.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 Just now, Foxy_Bear said: Ok, "outright" is a stretch but he has spoke several times in the last 24 hours about the abuse Kel and Ayo have had and how FT is full of hypocrites because some of those same people praise them now. “Football fan” is pretty much a synonym for hypocrite, as fans slide from ‘next Messi’ to ‘cart horse’ in the blink of an eye so won’t criticise him for that, but sticking with an early judgement despite contrary contemporary evidence is a weak mentality not a strong one (in my opinion anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 April 2021 Share Posted 4 April 2021 1 minute ago, Foxy_Bear said: Ok, "outright" is a stretch but he has spoke several times in the last 24 hours about the abuse Kel and Ayo have had and how FT is full of hypocrites because some of those same people praise them now. You’re making that up aren’t you. FT is full of hypocrisy and I spoke about Kel and Perez. Both players have basically received incredible abuse on here, with ‘fans’ wanting them out the club etc etc, only for those same ‘fans’ to now be praising them to the skies, (especially Iheanacho) when we KNOW if they dip form again, the same thing will happen over again Thats hypocrisy kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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