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We are missing a right winger. I think Justin should be forward of Ricardo (or vice versa) and Perez allowed to roam around the front 3 (possession based circumstances). He isnt quick enough nor have enough stamina (like Youri). We cant keep having to use our DM's to cover our own weaknesses when their jobs need to be focused on the other team and not ours.

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6 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

I'll give you Musa, Slimani, Silva, Ghezzal and maybe Nacho as bad recruitment. 

Perez cost a bit but isn't 'bad'.

 

The rest were young players who cost little and were worth a punt.  

Bennett is on loan as cover; solid player with decent experience. Amartey had been decent and getting into form until that horrific ankle injury that he's struggled to recover from.

 

But considering you're wrapped up on the bad, I'll point out the good. Soyuncu (£19mill), Evans (£3mill), Ricardo (£25mill), Ndidi (£16mill), Maddison (£21mill), Praet (£17mill) and Youri (£39mill). All brilliant buys, and great recruitment. But yeah we recruit badly. 

 

I don't think i said Perez was a bad player, I think he was a player that when we bought him was the wrong player for our first 11. We needed to replace Mahrez and Perez is obviously unable to fill that roll, furthermore Youri is yet to prove he's worth being our top signing. He came to us and admittedly looked brilliant however he did have a downturn in form before the end of the season, and this season he really hasn't been great. He is slow, seems to struggle getting in 90 minutes and loses the ball a lot. Now I think that Youri is being asked to play deeper than he would like and looks more suited to the roll maddison plays, but again it shows we didn't do our homework. As for Bennett, he's not even made the bench has he?

 

My point was we're not as great in our recruitment as it's made out, sometimes purchasing players as an investment I think rather than improving the squad, we know if the players we buy are working as they're linked with a move to another club. I just hope we purchase a striker and another right or left sided playmaker/winger, I think we also need a CB as relying on Wes next season is ridiculous imo. 

 

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On 28/06/2020 at 20:55, frany104 said:

He was bought to score goals and make goals. He wasn’t bought to run a lot. Literally any of us can work hard. He has been awful all season and one of our biggest transfer flops ever behind musa, silva and slimani.

 

Oh yes he was. I think it was most tackles by a forward in the PL, here it is. That's workrate.

 

https://www.trollfootball.me/news/view/ayoze-perez-has-most-combined-tackles-and-interceptions-101-of-any

 

101 tackles and interceptions, the next highest was 65 at that point. Interestingly, that 45 gap was as much as the gap between 2nd and 19th. I appreciate it was partly down to the Newcastle style, but this part of his game was referenced when we signed him.

 

You could see that we all of a sudden found our pressing game when we played Chelsea, as Vardy suddenly had that partner that Shinji used to be, back to loads of pointing and pressure. I think he will start from here on in.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, splinterdream said:

But considering you're wrapped up on the bad, I'll point out the good. Soyuncu (£19mill), Evans (£3mill), Ricardo (£25mill), Ndidi (£16mill), Maddison (£21mill), Praet (£17mill) and Youri (£39mill). All brilliant buys, and great recruitment. But yeah we recruit badly. 

When you look at that group of players you quoted in another context, it does rather highlight the sort of very decent talent that we have in our squad and that's without certain other names. It rather suggests that Rodgers has got a touch of reverse King Midas, instead of gold, whatever he touches turns to shit 🤣

 

In light of what happened when he lost his star forward in Suarez at Liverpool, we'd better hope that Vardy doesn't get pissed off with him and leaves!

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13 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

Oh yes he was. I think it was most tackles by a forward in the PL, here it is. That's workrate.

 

https://www.trollfootball.me/news/view/ayoze-perez-has-most-combined-tackles-and-interceptions-101-of-any

 

101 tackles and interceptions, the next highest was 65 at that point. Interestingly, that 45 gap was as much as the gap between 2nd and 19th. I appreciate it was partly down to the Newcastle style, but this part of his game was referenced when we signed him.

 

You could see that we all of a sudden found our pressing game when we played Chelsea, as Vardy suddenly had that partner that Shinji used to be, back to loads of pointing and pressure. I think he will start from here on in.

 

 

 

So you believe a wingers main role is to press. Ok. Wingers contribute in the final third just like Mahrez did. Perez main strength is pressing.... what a player we have on our hands!

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Newcastle owner Mike Ashley 'learned a lesson' over Ayoze Perez sale to Leicester City

Spanish forward joined City after his £30 million release clause was met

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BY JORDAN BLACKWELL

06:00, 28 JUL 2019UPDATED19:15, 27 JUL 2019

...am I to deduce that the information is incorrect.

 

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2 minutes ago, LCFCCHRIS said:

Perez seems to be the sort of player that does enough a lot of the time, but won't do something brilliant very often. 

His moments of brilliance have been exceptionally bright, however. 

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5 minutes ago, LCFCCHRIS said:

Perez seems to be the sort of player that does enough a lot of the time, but won't do something brilliant very often. 

Someone mentioned the other day he drifts through games until he's subbed, sums it up for me.

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we had far less of a threat once Albrighton replaced Perez

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5 hours ago, Mark said:

Someone mentioned the other day he drifts through games until he's subbed, sums it up for me.

If we play high up the pitch he's useful. If we sit deep and lob balls up top, he's less effective. Same as Vardy, Barnes, Maddison and 90% of attscking players.

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9 hours ago, frany104 said:

So you believe a wingers main role is to press. Ok. Wingers contribute in the final third just like Mahrez did. Perez main strength is pressing.... what a player we have on our hands!

 

No, but like with Shinji, he does win possession high up the pitch, which is important for us.

 

I would love a more conventional pacy player playing wide right, but he would need to be hard worker as well. Then maybe we would see Perez more centrally, where he seems to play best.

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Yeah, he was awesome linking the okay today, and popping up in pockets between midfield line and vardy. We need that as it stops us passing aimlessly sideways in front of a packed defence. 

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Yeah, he did well. With clever runners in Vardy and Nachos, he can together with Tielemans do really well through the middle.

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As I’ve been saying most of the season, he needs to play central and not out wide.

 

Every time he has played central, he’s been quality, the Okazaki type role is his best position.

 

Hopefully after today Rodgers has finally realised this and will never play him wide again.

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On 28/06/2020 at 20:58, splinterdream said:

When they say on BT or Sky sport how good our recruitment is #perez #amartey #slimani #musa #iheanacho #gray #kaputska #Benkovic #Bennett #diabate #ghezzal #silva

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Let me guess....if this list was made 12 months ago you'd also have included #Soyuncu?.....melt

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Think he's been our most underrated player this season. He links well with everyone and his work ethic is incredible often leading to him winning the ball high up the pitch. He's also a great technical player with a good finish on him. He has to play every game for us imo. 

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It’s so obvious that he is not a winger and prefers an ‘Okazaki’ role.

 

His main weakness for me is that he is too easily brushed off the ball.

 

Also I can’t recall him stringing two decent performances together. That’s why he’s in and out of the side. Needs to be more consistent.

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19 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

Let me guess....if this list was made 12 months ago you'd also have included #Soyuncu?.....melt

Not at all, Soyuncu was bought for a purpose, we obviously knew maguire would leave so we prepared, but Perez bought to play on the right is trying to put a square peg in a round hole imo (and I'm allowed that opinion), sometimes a plan is required, did we think how we'd incorporate Nacho before we purchased him? I don't think Perez and Nacho are bad players, I think we don't look at a player and see how he'll improve our options in play style  and our overall squad. If you're able to look through my past posts I've been almost a lone figure on here supporting nacho when others have laughed and called him useless so I think you have my point wrong, I'm saying when we buy a player we need to make sure we can make that player better and we'll improve as a result, and what's the need for calling me a melt???? Very sad. 

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10 minutes ago, Hammo said:

It’s so obvious that he is not a winger and prefers an ‘Okazaki’ role.

 

His main weakness for me is that he is too easily brushed off the ball.

 

Also I can’t recall him stringing two decent performances together. That’s why he’s in and out of the side. Needs to be more consistent.

It's strange - I made a point of watching him today to see if he got easily brushed off the ball.

 

He really didn't.

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